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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3560 on: December 29, 2016, 07:47:41 AM »
Why do you think they started camps? Pressure from the parents? Teachers complaining we have too much time off?

I've read it was because a bunch of NETs kept complaining about the amount of deskwarming they had to do, especially when comparing their own setups to other NETs who were permitted to stay home or take longer vacations at the discretion of their schools.

This would be a totally different job without camps. I can't imagine. Camp is easily the hardest part of this job.

I'm curious why you think that? I've probably had it easy -- week long camp at most, I get to do what I want, and it usually involves candy. I'm not a superfan but it's not...awful?

You've had it easy. My main school wanted 6 weeks of winter camp.
Because of when I took my vacation, it made too many half weeks during jan / feb, so they took it down to 3. Last time I checked they only had the sign ups for 1 week, so *hopefully* I'll only get 1 week at my main school and 1 week at my travel school.

And camp is both stressful and the most hardest part of this job. My main school started off with "We want 3 weeks of nothing but reading / writing / speaking / listening competitions - but didn't like any idea given to them. Now it is: "It must differ from your regular lessons, it must be fun, you have a budget of 0, it must be fun, and no watching movies." I have enough ideas for about 3 days, so most of my camp is going to be winged.

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« Reply #3561 on: December 29, 2016, 07:54:02 AM »
I'm anxious about camp because my coteacher was being all weird yesterday to me.... but talking with one of my friends helped me realize, well, if the camp goes badly, things won't be that much worse for me, and if camp goes well, things probably won't be that much better.

Still just tired of dealing with everyone though.

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« Reply #3562 on: December 29, 2016, 08:05:14 AM »
Finding a decent place to live in Seoul is miserable. Everything that's new or remodeled has awful built-in washing machines and gas / electric ranges. Everything older is scummy and dirty.

And everything is offensively expensive.

This is my current rant too. The place my school gave me has been so awful so I'm taking the pittance of a housing allowance and trying to go it alone. Been looking online for months, and it's rare I see anything passable (clean, enough space for a double bed, not an hours commute).

I know I shouldn't complain about the housing allowance yadda yadda but seriously, that amount may have been okay 10 years ago, not now.

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« Reply #3563 on: December 29, 2016, 08:09:04 AM »
I was just told that because today is the last day before vacation, all teachers are going out for lunch for fish soup and I MUST attend. I really don't like fish. Even though I explained this to my coteachers, they assured me it's okay because "it's not spicy!"

No, spicy isn't the problem, it's the fish. Why can't I choose anything else?  :sad:

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« Reply #3564 on: December 29, 2016, 08:13:46 AM »
I normally don't mind camp, but this year I have three weeks of 4 hours a day with 25-28 students per class, 4 different levels I'm still teaching this week and camp starts on Monday and I have to do prep on my own :blank: :cry:

As soon as camp is finished I have to prep placement tests for the new teacher. I'm sick of here. Desk warming sounds like a rainbow unicorn situation to me.

My situation is almost identical, and I'm away all weekend, so going in cold on Monday. I also have a zero won budget. I found a well planned Frozen camp on Waygook for elementary grades 3-6. It's for 3 days, but I am making it work for 5. Anywhere there is a craft activity, I've substituted something which uses paper only. Anywhere there is paint, we will use colouring pens. The movie will fill three periods on a Thursday. The rest I will stretch with filler activities.

I don't care if they don't like Frozen. Neither do I.

http://www.waygook.org/index.php/topic,93631.msg598553.html#msg598553

Hope it works for you!

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3565 on: December 29, 2016, 08:16:19 AM »
I was just told that because today is the last day before vacation, all teachers are going out for lunch for fish soup and I MUST attend. I really don't like fish. Even though I explained this to my coteachers, they assured me it's okay because "it's not spicy!"

No, spicy isn't the problem, it's the fish. Why can't I choose anything else?  :sad:
You are no longer required to attend hwehshiks.

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« Reply #3566 on: December 29, 2016, 08:24:13 AM »
I just found out that there's been some talk about the way I dress.

I actually don't really dress any differently than any of the other teachers here, but my clothes look different on me because I have a very, very different build. All the same, I'm not showing any skin that would be inappropriate in the Korean workplace, and nothing is tight.

While most of the staff and faculty don't see a problem with my clothes, there's a small group who feel like I should "cover up" more, which basically means that they want me to start wearing clothing two sizes too big for me or to wear a jacket constantly throughout the day.

Are they ****** kidding me?
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« Reply #3567 on: December 29, 2016, 08:24:13 AM »
Finding a decent place to live in Seoul is miserable. Everything that's new or remodeled has awful built-in washing machines and gas / electric ranges. Everything older is scummy and dirty.

And everything is offensively expensive.

This is my current rant too. The place my school gave me has been so awful so I'm taking the pittance of a housing allowance and trying to go it alone. Been looking online for months, and it's rare I see anything passable (clean, enough space for a double bed, not an hours commute).

I know I shouldn't complain about the housing allowance yadda yadda but seriously, that amount may have been okay 10 years ago, not now.


Oh. The money isn't really a big problem, but even if you're putting a 50 million deposit and paying like 800 a month rent, most places available in Seoul are still butt.

Well that's kind of what I mean. Will absolutely have to pay out of pocket and even then it'll still be a total sh*thole. Been saving all year for this deposit, even when the exchange rate was so sweet... it's not even going to make much of a difference. I miss my old city, I could be living like a king normal person with this budget.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3568 on: December 29, 2016, 08:32:45 AM »
I was just told that because today is the last day before vacation, all teachers are going out for lunch for fish soup and I MUST attend. I really don't like fish. Even though I explained this to my coteachers, they assured me it's okay because "it's not spicy!"

No, spicy isn't the problem, it's the fish. Why can't I choose anything else?  :sad:

Just say, "Sorry, I don't really dig on fish. Is it possible to order something small that I can eat?" Your coworkers aren't monsters.

Yeah I asked that too, but the answer was no. Apparently I'm not allowed to go out and get something on my own either. So soup it is for me then....I hope the sides are decent.

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« Reply #3569 on: December 29, 2016, 08:38:46 AM »
Yesterday at the main school went through the whole closing schtick; listen to the principal ramble on at the 방학식, supervise the students while they pretend to clean, go out for lunch 회식, wish everyone a happy new year and get to go home early. Fantastic.

Today at the second school it's business as usual, regular classes and no cancellations  :shocked:

I'm really not feeling it. Can't we just call it a day already? ugh

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3570 on: December 29, 2016, 08:47:39 AM »
I just found out that there's been some talk about the way I dress.

I actually don't really dress any differently than any of the other teachers here, but my clothes look different on me because I have a very, very different build. All the same, I'm not showing any skin that would be inappropriate in the Korean workplace, and nothing is tight.

While most of the staff and faculty don't see a problem with my clothes, there's a small group who feel like I should "cover up" more, which basically means that they want me to start wearing clothing two sizes too big for me or to wear a jacket constantly throughout the day.

Are they ****** kidding me?

Yeah, fuck dressing like a thrift store raggedy ann doll.

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« Reply #3571 on: December 29, 2016, 08:52:52 AM »
I just found out that there's been some talk about the way I dress.

I actually don't really dress any differently than any of the other teachers here, but my clothes look different on me because I have a very, very different build. All the same, I'm not showing any skin that would be inappropriate in the Korean workplace, and nothing is tight.

While most of the staff and faculty don't see a problem with my clothes, there's a small group who feel like I should "cover up" more, which basically means that they want me to start wearing clothing two sizes too big for me or to wear a jacket constantly throughout the day.

Are they ****** kidding me?


One of my friends had a "talking to" when she first got here because of a dress she was wearing. It wasn't revealing (even had sleeves) but the issue was that she had an average bum size which apparently equates to large here. Supposedly [elementary] school boys were complaining that it was distracting, or so sayeth her coT.

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« Reply #3572 on: December 29, 2016, 08:59:23 AM »
I just found out that there's been some talk about the way I dress.

I actually don't really dress any differently than any of the other teachers here, but my clothes look different on me because I have a very, very different build. All the same, I'm not showing any skin that would be inappropriate in the Korean workplace, and nothing is tight.

While most of the staff and faculty don't see a problem with my clothes, there's a small group who feel like I should "cover up" more, which basically means that they want me to start wearing clothing two sizes too big for me or to wear a jacket constantly throughout the day.

Are they ****** kidding me?


One of my friends had a "talking to" when she first got here because of a dress she was wearing. It wasn't revealing (even had sleeves) but the issue was that she had an average bum size which apparently equates to large here. Supposedly [elementary] school boys were complaining that it was distracting, or so sayeth her coT.

I got a talking to about dresses I wore a few times. One had a sufficiently high neckline, but was fairly form-fitting around the bust, and I was told "you'd better zip up your jacket because the boys are very curious about the woman's body"

Uh ok

Another time I got in trouble for a dress which has a slit on the side although I was wearing opaque leggings because they could "see my leg" even though I've worn my courdoroy leggings as pants without incident... sigh


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« Reply #3573 on: December 29, 2016, 09:03:30 AM »
Yesterday we had the closing ceremony, and all the kids left the school around 11.
Teachers needed to stay until the 4:20 closing time.

At 4:15 the headteacher comes into the office and says we can go home early, and wishes me a great vacation. (The same headteacher who insisted I'll spend the next 3 weeks deskwarming, when I've previously been able to leave at lunchtime during deskwarming days, and the same headteacher who insisted that any early leave, i.e. exam days be deducted from my vacation, when previously it wasn't.)

Thanks for the extra 5 minutes, I suppose.

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« Reply #3574 on: December 29, 2016, 09:05:50 AM »
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I mean, my place is nice, and I only have a 10 million deposit with 500 a month rent. But it's a one room, and I'm tired of having my kitchen in my bedroom. And it's too small to share with a significant other.

If you're only looking at one rooms, it's super possible to find modern, clean, and reasonably sized ones for a fairly affordable price.

I'm also looking for somewhere with space for a significant other, our stuff and a car. I'm trying to keep costs low though as he actually owns a place (his mother is there and I'm refusing to move in with her ha) and who wants to pay rent when you have somewhere you can live for free? He'll contribute, but I'd rather pay the bulk of it.

I hear you on the bedroom/kitchen front. It'd sure be nice to be able to eat dinner somewhere other than sitting on my bed or hear my fridge start up just as I'm drifting off to sleep. I often find as well the pictures of rooms all look okay, newly renovated, then the bathroom or kitchen looks like someone died in it in the 70s and it hasn't been done up since. Wishing us both luck.

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« Reply #3575 on: December 29, 2016, 09:06:09 AM »
Yeah, **** all of the above. I don't get how people aren't embarrassed by trying to force their own very obvious insecurities and hang-ups on innocent people. It just makes them look super petty and jealous.

In my own case, it's a small group of teachers who don't have any real pull in the school. They've been making remarks and trying to gain a following, but no one's really piling in on that bandwagon. My coTs kind of "warned" me about it, though, so that I'd be aware of what's going on, but I think they kind of think it's funny, too.

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« Reply #3576 on: December 29, 2016, 09:07:56 AM »
I just found out that there's been some talk about the way I dress.

I actually don't really dress any differently than any of the other teachers here, but my clothes look different on me because I have a very, very different build. All the same, I'm not showing any skin that would be inappropriate in the Korean workplace, and nothing is tight.

While most of the staff and faculty don't see a problem with my clothes, there's a small group who feel like I should "cover up" more, which basically means that they want me to start wearing clothing two sizes too big for me or to wear a jacket constantly throughout the day.

Are they ****** kidding me?


One of my friends had a "talking to" when she first got here because of a dress she was wearing. It wasn't revealing (even had sleeves) but the issue was that she had an average bum size which apparently equates to large here. Supposedly [elementary] school boys were complaining that it was distracting, or so sayeth her coT.

I got a talking to about dresses I wore a few times. One had a sufficiently high neckline, but was fairly form-fitting around the bust, and I was told "you'd better zip up your jacket because the boys are very curious about the woman's body"

Uh ok

Another time I got in trouble for a dress which has a slit on the side although I was wearing opaque leggings because they could "see my leg" even though I've worn my courdoroy leggings as pants without incident... sigh

The ol' double standard. I have a co-teacher who basically spent half of summer wearing hot pants (at least 80% of her thigh above the knee was visible). Another teacher wears exceptionally tight miniskirts. To be fair, they were both able to pull it off ^^

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« Reply #3577 on: December 29, 2016, 09:12:29 AM »
SURPRISE if you don't tell me to do something it won't get done

My coteacher told me we'd be doing winter camp "the same" as summer camp. Naturally I assumed this meant she was going to be in charge of the reading/writing portion of the camp, because she put herself in charge of it last time. Apparently not

I'm asked today for questions to stories that I never wrote because I was never told to do them. I need to write 20 questions each for 10 stories, all of which are max 5 pages long double-spaced. I already wrote a few questions for 10 stories from this book because I was asked to over the summer, so I jot down the names of those stories and tell her to use those. No, those aren't good enough. I can't use The Ugly Duckling and I must only choose between stories 9-23.

Whatever. I've chosen some stories now. And now I have to write 200 questions today and format them nicely in 10 worksheets. My coteacher is an ice queen who literally never expresses any feelings, and the look of shock on her face when I told her that no, I hadn't made worksheets and questions for these stories because no one ever told me to was priceless

I was already grumpy about yesterday and anxious about camp and now I am just in an even worse mood.

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« Reply #3578 on: December 29, 2016, 09:45:14 AM »
One of the male teachers in my office NEVER manages to shut the door. Literally never. This morning, he came into the office through one door and left it open, then left through the second door, also leaving it open. Are you frigging kidding me.

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« Reply #3579 on: December 29, 2016, 09:47:32 AM »
I just found out that there's been some talk about the way I dress.

I actually don't really dress any differently than any of the other teachers here, but my clothes look different on me because I have a very, very different build. All the same, I'm not showing any skin that would be inappropriate in the Korean workplace, and nothing is tight.

While most of the staff and faculty don't see a problem with my clothes, there's a small group who feel like I should "cover up" more, which basically means that they want me to start wearing clothing two sizes too big for me or to wear a jacket constantly throughout the day.

Are they ****** kidding me?


One of my friends had a "talking to" when she first got here because of a dress she was wearing. It wasn't revealing (even had sleeves) but the issue was that she had an average bum size which apparently equates to large here. Supposedly [elementary] school boys were complaining that it was distracting, or so sayeth her coT.

I got a talking to about dresses I wore a few times. One had a sufficiently high neckline, but was fairly form-fitting around the bust, and I was told "you'd better zip up your jacket because the boys are very curious about the woman's body"

Uh ok

Another time I got in trouble for a dress which has a slit on the side although I was wearing opaque leggings because they could "see my leg" even though I've worn my courdoroy leggings as pants without incident... sigh

The ol' double standard. I have a co-teacher who basically spent half of summer wearing hot pants (at least 80% of her thigh above the knee was visible). Another teacher wears exceptionally tight miniskirts. To be fair, they were both able to pull it off ^^

What school do you work at? Of course my curiosity is entirely due to scientific purposes