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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3000 on: December 08, 2016, 01:15:51 PM »
Why, when I'm assisting other students, do Korean students think it's okay to yell "TEACHER" at me and get louder and louder as I ignore them?  These are 1st grade middle schoolers.  Shouldn't you know by age 14 or whatever that interrupting people like that is rude as hell?

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3001 on: December 08, 2016, 01:24:27 PM »
No, lunch ladies, we definitely do NOT need THREE different typea of carbs and zero protein for our lunch

Yeah this is what lead me to opting out. I'm no health-nut but god I could not take another triple-carb lunch.
Yeah, I remember those days at my public school. Rice, noodles, and breads all in one meal. Holy bananas.

same same same

although today I unthinkingly devoured my emergency peppero because I was hungry whoops

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« Reply #3002 on: December 08, 2016, 02:08:24 PM »
I find it pretty frustrating that Korean students don't know that Spanish is used outside of Spain and think they speak English in South America.  I've encountered this over and over.


Who are you frustrated at? The kids?

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3003 on: December 08, 2016, 02:10:19 PM »
Why, when I'm assisting other students, do Korean students think it's okay to yell "TEACHER" at me and get louder and louder as I ignore them?  These are 1st grade middle schoolers.  Shouldn't you know by age 14 or whatever that interrupting people like that is rude as hell?


My students do that too. I've tried to get them to raise their hand quietly, but that was before I learned that my co-teacher was actually telling them to call out to me. It's just what they do here, at least at my school and yours it seems.

My school too. Even the third graders do it. I try to tell them I'll get to them, I haven't forgotten that they need their worksheet checked, but it doesn't help.

The only thing that has helped a little bit is like, when most of the kids finish the worksheet at the same time (when you get the most of this TEACHERRRRR nonsense) I will tell them "First, I'm doing this row. Then I'll check the second row." etc and that seems to get them to calm down a LITTLE bit

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« Reply #3004 on: December 08, 2016, 02:13:36 PM »
I'm really tired of seeing this RIDICULOUS picture on Facebook.  Are people just being dicks to their friends in public now?  Not even behind their back, literally to their faces?



People spending their money on travel, I'm sitting here with my shiny new guitar like "Enjoy your dysentery and stolen passport."

I'm ready to be done with traveling. Been ready for a while now. I've found my last several trips to be exhausting and living here in Korea it almost feels like there's some compulsion to go out to another country during vacation time. I hate booking flights. I hate spending huge amounts of money to be stuck in places with huge amounts of people. No matter where you go these days it's hard to get away from the canned tourist experience, to the point where the places themselves feel more like some cheap plastic replica of their own once-defining characteristics. I don't like the sense among many travelers that the world is their playground and nice backdrop to their selfies. I enjoy the sense of discovery, but don't like feeling compelled to cram as much into one day as possible and or the feeling that I can't slow down for fear of missing out on something. Now that I know how terrible air travel is in terms of carbon emissions, there's a guilty sense of burning the path behind me as I romp across the globe in my personal quest for some fleeting sense of fulfillment, and spending thousands of dollars to do so.

The Nepal scenes from Doctor Strange had me averting my eyes in embarrassment.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3005 on: December 08, 2016, 02:35:48 PM »
I find it pretty frustrating that Korean students don't know that Spanish is used outside of Spain and think they speak English in South America.  I've encountered this over and over.


Who are you frustrated at? The kids?

Nah, it's not their fault.  I'm sure most adults don't know either.  Is it really not extremely common knowledge all over the world?

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« Reply #3006 on: December 08, 2016, 02:50:58 PM »
The cynic in me thinks that it would be best for Koreans to think that language lines up with country, with the exception of English.

This puts all languages at the same level. I think it would be quite shocking if it was shown in what rank Korean is spoken vs other languages.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3007 on: December 08, 2016, 02:56:07 PM »
Why, when I'm assisting other students, do Korean students think it's okay to yell "TEACHER" at me and get louder and louder as I ignore them?  These are 1st grade middle schoolers.  Shouldn't you know by age 14 or whatever that interrupting people like that is rude as hell?

All my students do this to me too. I've never found it rude, I just take it as getting my attention; I'm pretty sure I used to do this in high school myself. I usually just say "just a minute" and they will talk with their friends until I can go and help them.

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« Reply #3008 on: December 08, 2016, 03:01:15 PM »
The cynic in me thinks that it would be best for Koreans to think that language lines up with country, with the exception of English.

This puts all languages at the same level. I think it would be quite shocking if it was shown in what rank Korean is spoken vs other languages.

My students didn't seem too suffer to greatly when I did a lesson on the importance and usefulness of English, haha.

I got sick of students complaining about having to learn it, or saying stuff like "Why do we need this, we speak Korean." I threw together a presentation showing how many people speak it in the world, how many countries list it as an official language, and how many people around the world also learn it as a second language. I also pointed out fields where it's particularly useful, and even showed a ranking of languages used on the internet.

In doing so I also showed were Korean was in comparison (internet ranking, number of speakers, number of countries), and while there were a few exclamations of "Whoa!" or "Dang!" (in Korean), if anyone was shocked or overwhelmed in any way, it wasn't immediately obvious to me, haha.

I'm sure the students who complain about it weren't swayed in any way, but at least I can say I tried.  :laugh: :laugh:

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3009 on: December 08, 2016, 03:05:39 PM »
Why, when I'm assisting other students, do Korean students think it's okay to yell "TEACHER" at me and get louder and louder as I ignore them?  These are 1st grade middle schoolers.  Shouldn't you know by age 14 or whatever that interrupting people like that is rude as hell?

All my students do this to me too. I've never found it rude, I just take it as getting my attention; I'm pretty sure I used to do this in high school myself. I usually just say "just a minute" and they will talk with their friends until I can go and help them.

that's well and good if they'll take that, but unless I'm really specific my students won't shut up. I can even make direct eye contact and give them the "one minute" gesture and they'll just yell more lol

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3010 on: December 09, 2016, 04:29:01 AM »
Are Koreans better able to metabolize (simple) carbs? How are they not fat?

Metabolize. Don't know.
Digest. Yes.

But it's not just Koreans but East Asians in general.

Edit: Missed the 'simple' in there. What I said applies to complex carbs (shocker incoming, like those found in rice).
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3011 on: December 09, 2016, 05:08:52 AM »
Why, when I'm assisting other students, do Korean students think it's okay to yell "TEACHER" at me and get louder and louder as I ignore them?  These are 1st grade middle schoolers.  Shouldn't you know by age 14 or whatever that interrupting people like that is rude as hell?

All my students do this to me too. I've never found it rude, I just take it as getting my attention; I'm pretty sure I used to do this in high school myself. I usually just say "just a minute" and they will talk with their friends until I can go and help them.

that's well and good if they'll take that, but unless I'm really specific my students won't shut up. I can even make direct eye contact and give them the "one minute" gesture and they'll just yell more lol

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Nothing stops them from yelling until I go over to them. If they know they have to wait, they just yell louder so I'll go to them first. It's pretty obnoxious behavior... that special kind of obnoxious behavior that's encouraged here.
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I'm not sure this can actually be labeled as a cultural thing, as it seems more like a simple lack of parenting, which is kind of a cultural thing here ;)

At the start of every school year, we spend time "practicing" and modeling these types of appropriate behaviors, as most aren't getting them at home.

Things like: washing their hands, raising their hand to ask a question, covering their mouth with the inside of elbow when coughing (not hands), saying "please" and "thank you" in Korean and English, etc.

I feel so sorry for so many of these children, as I often wonder what sort of love and nurturing they receive at home.

They have a hagwon for everything in Korea, perhaps a mandatory "parenting"  hagwon wouldn't be such a bad idea.

To be clear, I'm will aware that Korea doesn't have a monopoly on poor parenting.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3012 on: December 09, 2016, 06:23:13 AM »
What I said applies to complex carbs (shocker incoming, like those found in rice).
Isn't brown rice a complex carb while white is a simple carb? Brown is much healthier than white, but most rice served in Korea is white rice.

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« Reply #3013 on: December 09, 2016, 07:37:47 AM »
What I said applies to complex carbs (shocker incoming, like those found in rice).
Isn't brown rice a complex carb while white is a simple carb? Brown is much healthier than white, but most rice served in Korea is white rice.

Rice in general is a complex carb. Also, brown is not that much healthier than white. Brown rice is just white rice with the husk still on. A little extra fiber and minerals, but no less of the "bad" stuff.
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« Reply #3014 on: December 09, 2016, 07:41:00 AM »
fun fact: if you cook rice with a fat and chill it in the fridge for 12 hours after cooking, somehow the calories in rice are halved!

I doubt Koreans are aware of this though haha

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3015 on: December 09, 2016, 07:42:10 AM »
I like purple rice.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3016 on: December 09, 2016, 07:45:43 AM »
What I said applies to complex carbs (shocker incoming, like those found in rice).
Isn't brown rice a complex carb while white is a simple carb? Brown is much healthier than white, but most rice served in Korea is white rice.

Rice in general is a complex carb. Also, brown is not that much healthier than white. Brown rice is just white rice with the hisk still on. A little extra fiber and minerals, but no less of the "bad" stuff.

Yeah, but the fiber helps you feel fuller fr a longer time and results in the energy being absorbed by the body at a slower rate. This lessens blood sugar energy spikes. So yeah, the calories are still there, but you're ot getting them all in an hour and a half, you're getting them over 3 or 4 hours.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3017 on: December 09, 2016, 07:55:02 AM »

They have a hagwon for everything in Korea, perhaps a mandatory "parenting"  hagwon wouldn't be such a bad idea.

To be clear, I'm will aware that Korea doesn't have a monopoly on poor parenting.

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« Reply #3018 on: December 09, 2016, 07:56:22 AM »
I like purple rice.

Me too. I also like pink rice. it's pretty.
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« Reply #3019 on: December 09, 2016, 07:59:50 AM »
What I said applies to complex carbs (shocker incoming, like those found in rice).
Isn't brown rice a complex carb while white is a simple carb? Brown is much healthier than white, but most rice served in Korea is white rice.

Rice in general is a complex carb. Also, brown is not that much healthier than white. Brown rice is just white rice with the hisk still on. A little extra fiber and minerals, but no less of the "bad" stuff.

I can't  speak to brown rice but plant carbs tend to be more complex. Simple carbs are usually stuff like simple sugars.

As an example.

A car is more complex than a motorcycle but they are both complex in comparison to a bike.

Note: I learned this stuff in intro biochem like a decade ago. I'm not really a food guy. I'm sure an actual food scientist could come and tool me.

And I just realized saying a decade ago is no longer accurate. Well that's my rant for the day...