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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2100 on: October 27, 2016, 10:35:07 AM »
I think my boss teacher definitely (not so) secretly hates me. Whenever I do anything wrong (or just something she doesn't like) she always says "everyone saw [whatever]"

Last week when we had that fight, I don't remember if I wrote here, but she kept saying at one point "Everyone sees you" and I asked what that meant and she just repeated herself "Everyone sees you everyday" I said something like, ok, I'm sorry that no one likes me, and she said that wasn't what she meant

(On my mind because she got upset at me for something today and went on about how "everyone saw")
I'm curious as well, what that could possibly mean. Is this the same one who you had the big argument with?

Always. I almost never have a problem with anyone other than her. On the one or two occasions I had a problem with any of my other cots we just talked it out calmly and clearly like adults.

I really appreciate everyone's kind words. Lately I've been starting to wonder if actually I'm just intolerable and she's the only one who will say so. I know I'm not perfect and I'm young and inexperienced but I like to think I'm not a complete fuckup.

(Also whoever it was that suggested I say "everyone sees you too" .... imagining the look on her face gave me a good laugh haha. I don't want to rock the boat anymore than I do by existing though)

Glad I was able to give you a laugh. :D My reasoning was: if you don't understand because of a lack of context, take it at face value - everyone sees you. Well, everyone sees you too; we are in an office / school. Everyone sees everyone. :P
Maybe saying it like that, with the office / school bit will give you some context. :P

But don't let it get you down, champ!

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2101 on: October 27, 2016, 10:44:31 AM »
I think my boss teacher definitely (not so) secretly hates me. Whenever I do anything wrong (or just something she doesn't like) she always says "everyone saw [whatever]"

Last week when we had that fight, I don't remember if I wrote here, but she kept saying at one point "Everyone sees you" and I asked what that meant and she just repeated herself "Everyone sees you everyday" I said something like, ok, I'm sorry that no one likes me, and she said that wasn't what she meant

(On my mind because she got upset at me for something today and went on about how "everyone saw")
I'm curious as well, what that could possibly mean. Is this the same one who you had the big argument with?

Always. I almost never have a problem with anyone other than her. On the one or two occasions I had a problem with any of my other cots we just talked it out calmly and clearly like adults.

I really appreciate everyone's kind words. Lately I've been starting to wonder if actually I'm just intolerable and she's the only one who will say so. I know I'm not perfect and I'm young and inexperienced but I like to think I'm not a complete fuckup.

(Also whoever it was that suggested I say "everyone sees you too" .... imagining the look on her face gave me a good laugh haha. I don't want to rock the boat anymore than I do by existing though)

Glad I was able to give you a laugh. :D My reasoning was: if you don't understand because of a lack of context, take it at face value - everyone sees you. Well, everyone sees you too; we are in an office / school. Everyone sees everyone. :P
Maybe saying it like that, with the office / school bit will give you some context. :P

But don't let it get you down, champ!

Thanks. After next week, I won't have any more textbook classes to teach with her at least. Not that she won't still hassle me about things like bread and coffee but at least she won't be hassling me about how I do my job (since she's generally loved my non-textbook classes in the past)

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2102 on: October 27, 2016, 10:48:02 AM »
After next week, I won't have any more textbook classes to teach with her at least. Not that she won't still hassle me about things like bread and coffee but at least she won't be hassling me about how I do my job (since she's generally loved my non-textbook classes in the past)

I hope things will get less stressful, then, in the coming weeks. :azn: Also, now I want bread and coffee. Damn you. :evil:

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« Reply #2103 on: October 27, 2016, 10:53:08 AM »
After next week, I won't have any more textbook classes to teach with her at least. Not that she won't still hassle me about things like bread and coffee but at least she won't be hassling me about how I do my job (since she's generally loved my non-textbook classes in the past)

I hope things will get less stressful, then, in the coming weeks. :azn: Also, now I want bread and coffee. Damn you. :evil:

We have some surprisingly tasty cheese/cranberry/sesame bread in the office today

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« Reply #2104 on: October 27, 2016, 11:20:19 AM »
It's one of the oldest tricks in the book that Korean females have down to a science. They make a mistake, do something wrong, cause a problem and they get angry at YOU. My wife used to be a master at it. Also experienced it with co-workers. Completely fark something up, get called out and turn around and get angry at the person who called them out. Deflection in it's finest form.

Now a used-to-be wife or no longer a master?

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« Reply #2105 on: October 27, 2016, 11:53:01 AM »
It's one of the oldest tricks in the book that Korean females have down to a science. They make a mistake, do something wrong, cause a problem and they get angry at YOU. My wife used to be a master at it. Also experienced it with co-workers. Completely fark something up, get called out and turn around and get angry at the person who called them out. Deflection in it's finest form.

Now a used-to-be wife or no longer a master?
It was the one thing that pissed me off the most, so after she denied she did it for a while, she accepted that it did happen and she would try hard not to do it anymore. And she has been true to her word.
In return I promised I would try to swear less while driving together. That's been a harder promise to keep.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2106 on: October 31, 2016, 06:44:54 AM »
It's one of the oldest tricks in the book that Korean females have down to a science. They make a mistake, do something wrong, cause a problem and they get angry at YOU. My wife used to be a master at it. Also experienced it with co-workers. Completely fark something up, get called out and turn around and get angry at the person who called them out. Deflection in it's finest form.

Is it just Korean women? Because my exboyfriend (Korean) was really good at that too. At first I didn't even realize he was doing it, but when I did I felt totally manipulated  >:(

That's every bad bf/gf around the world.  They seem always follow the same pattern. Even outside relationships look at the posts about work or whatever here that have the phrase "I know I was kind of in the wrong/being a jerk BUT..."

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« Reply #2107 on: October 31, 2016, 07:48:45 AM »
Drank a lot last night after receiving news of a family friend's death, woke up still dizzy with my stomach feeling like crap. I have 5 classes to teach today.

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« Reply #2108 on: October 31, 2016, 08:53:09 AM »
It's one of the oldest tricks in the book that Korean females have down to a science. They make a mistake, do something wrong, cause a problem and they get angry at YOU. My wife used to be a master at it. Also experienced it with co-workers. Completely fark something up, get called out and turn around and get angry at the person who called them out. Deflection in it's finest form.

Is it just Korean women? Because my exboyfriend (Korean) was really good at that too. At first I didn't even realize he was doing it, but when I did I felt totally manipulated  >:(

That's every bad bf/gf around the world.  They seem always follow the same pattern. Even outside relationships look at the posts about work or whatever here that have the phrase "I know I was kind of in the wrong/being a jerk BUT..."

It's different from the "Yes, but..." Everyone does that at some point.

What I'm talking about is the sudden attack when in the wrong. Not a modicum of acceptance anything wrong was done wrong, just a full frontal bombardment.
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« Reply #2109 on: October 31, 2016, 09:44:08 AM »
I wish I taught my elem. classes by myself.

My coT is like a child sometimes-- except the children all know that if you touch the touch-screen, it's gonna move to the next slide... how can you act surprised every time when you just did it three times in a row??

What should have been a brief 5 minute ppt presentation before moving on to activities took almost more than double the estimated time because coT felt the need to interject tons of Korean after nearly everything. How do the kids learn any English when the coT is constantly talking in Korean all the time?  >:( For crying out loud, every kid I have knows how to count at least to 10 in English! We did a pumpkin paper craft and I had them number the pieces of paper to make it easier to give instructions and coT felt the need to interject and translate numbers. We only went from 1 - 8.  >:( >:(

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« Reply #2110 on: October 31, 2016, 10:37:14 AM »
I wish I taught my elem. classes by myself.

My coT is like a child sometimes-- except the children all know that if you touch the touch-screen, it's gonna move to the next slide... how can you act surprised every time when you just did it three times in a row??

What should have been a brief 5 minute ppt presentation before moving on to activities took almost more than double the estimated time because coT felt the need to interject tons of Korean after nearly everything. How do the kids learn any English when the coT is constantly talking in Korean all the time?  >:( For crying out loud, every kid I have knows how to count at least to 10 in English! We did a pumpkin paper craft and I had them number the pieces of paper to make it easier to give instructions and coT felt the need to interject and translate numbers. We only went from 1 - 8.  >:( >:(

I had an online class and I'd ask the students a question and the Korean teacher sitting in the room with them would tell them answer every time. Poor kids.

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« Reply #2111 on: October 31, 2016, 11:41:12 AM »
Shot myself in the foot.

I went out with the principal and 2 of her temple friends for all you can drink makgeolli on Thursday. Great. Her friend keeps talking about her 27 yr old son and how I should meet him. (You know where this is going). I should teach him English.

I don't do this. I won't do it on a weekday, I've already worked 8 hours. I won't do it on the weekend, these days are sacred to me. So I always use the "I'm not allowed to do it because of my E-Visa. I can only have one job with this situation." WORKS EVERY TIME.

Not this time. "Oh! Okay. You can do it for free!"

 :sad:  :huh:  :cry:  >:(

FUUUUUUUUUUU

"Yes! I will make you both dinner!"

FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU WHAT HAVE I DONE?

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« Reply #2112 on: October 31, 2016, 11:49:36 AM »
Shot myself in the foot.

I went out with the principal and 2 of her temple friends for all you can drink makgeolli on Thursday. Great. Her friend keeps talking about her 27 yr old son and how I should meet him. (You know where this is going). I should teach him English.

I don't do this. I won't do it on a weekday, I've already worked 8 hours. I won't do it on the weekend, these days are sacred to me. So I always use the "I'm not allowed to do it because of my E-Visa. I can only have one job with this situation." WORKS EVERY TIME.

Not this time. "Oh! Okay. You can do it for free!"

 :sad:  :huh:  :cry:  >:(

FUUUUUUUUUUU

"Yes! I will make you both dinner!"

FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU WHAT HAVE I DONE?

Hahaha. Classic. I can arrange a 'hit' for a small fee.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2113 on: October 31, 2016, 11:54:04 AM »
Shot myself in the foot.

I went out with the principal and 2 of her temple friends for all you can drink makgeolli on Thursday. Great. Her friend keeps talking about her 27 yr old son and how I should meet him. (You know where this is going). I should teach him English.

I don't do this. I won't do it on a weekday, I've already worked 8 hours. I won't do it on the weekend, these days are sacred to me. So I always use the "I'm not allowed to do it because of my E-Visa. I can only have one job with this situation." WORKS EVERY TIME.

Not this time. "Oh! Okay. You can do it for free!"

 :sad:  :huh:  :cry:  >:(

FUUUUUUUUUUU

"Yes! I will make you both dinner!"

FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU WHAT HAVE I DONE?
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2114 on: October 31, 2016, 11:56:52 AM »
We need a goon squad for stuff like this. The van would pull up and we'd make the son an offer he can't refuse to drop the whole English thing. Could solve other problems too, ranging from smokers in non-smoking apartments to getting overdue salary from shady hagwon owners.

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« Reply #2115 on: October 31, 2016, 12:13:00 PM »
Shot myself in the foot.

I went out with the principal and 2 of her temple friends for all you can drink makgeolli on Thursday. Great. Her friend keeps talking about her 27 yr old son and how I should meet him. (You know where this is going). I should teach him English.

I don't do this. I won't do it on a weekday, I've already worked 8 hours. I won't do it on the weekend, these days are sacred to me. So I always use the "I'm not allowed to do it because of my E-Visa. I can only have one job with this situation." WORKS EVERY TIME.

Not this time. "Oh! Okay. You can do it for free!"

 :sad:  :huh:  :cry:  >:(

FUUUUUUUUUUU

"Yes! I will make you both dinner!"

FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU WHAT HAVE I DONE?

damn dude, that's harsh!

could always tell her that your contract forbids ANY type of outside work/English teaching - even for free.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2116 on: October 31, 2016, 12:19:54 PM »
Shot myself in the foot.

I went out with the principal and 2 of her temple friends for all you can drink makgeolli on Thursday. Great. Her friend keeps talking about her 27 yr old son and how I should meet him. (You know where this is going). I should teach him English.

I don't do this. I won't do it on a weekday, I've already worked 8 hours. I won't do it on the weekend, these days are sacred to me. So I always use the "I'm not allowed to do it because of my E-Visa. I can only have one job with this situation." WORKS EVERY TIME.

Not this time. "Oh! Okay. You can do it for free!"

 :sad:  :huh:  :cry:  >:(

FUUUUUUUUUUU

"Yes! I will make you both dinner!"

FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU WHAT HAVE I DONE?
I was in the hospital after surgery and some older guy was walking by my room and noticed that there was a foreigner. He popped in and started talkin to me in a mix of Korean and English for a little while. A couple days later, he caught me walking around in the halls and started walking and talking with me.

Later that day, he popped back into my room with two teenagers in tow and asked me to teach them English and made his nephew give me his phone so I could put my phone number in his phone. I also tried the E2 excuse but he just waved me off and said it would be for fun. I put the wrong number in the phone and then finally was discharged the next day.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2117 on: October 31, 2016, 12:39:09 PM »
Shot myself in the foot.

I went out with the principal and 2 of her temple friends for all you can drink makgeolli on Thursday. Great. Her friend keeps talking about her 27 yr old son and how I should meet him. (You know where this is going). I should teach him English.

I don't do this. I won't do it on a weekday, I've already worked 8 hours. I won't do it on the weekend, these days are sacred to me. So I always use the "I'm not allowed to do it because of my E-Visa. I can only have one job with this situation." WORKS EVERY TIME.

Not this time. "Oh! Okay. You can do it for free!"

 :sad:  :huh:  :cry:  >:(

FUUUUUUUUUUU

"Yes! I will make you both dinner!"

FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU WHAT HAVE I DONE?

damn dude, that's harsh!

could always tell her that your contract forbids ANY type of outside work/English teaching - even for free.

My principal was there. She knows the contract in and out, hahaha.
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« Reply #2118 on: October 31, 2016, 12:42:22 PM »
Travel middle school coT texted me to let me know I don't have to go there this week due to open classes.

But.. one of my favorite classes is there. And I already lose out on the whole month of December since she starts maternity leave then... boo.

So I only have 3 classes left with them this semester and I have to bid farewell forever to the Grade 3s. They're a good group of kids, I'm really disappointed by this turn of events.

Guess I'll just have more time to plan winter camp. :/

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« Reply #2119 on: October 31, 2016, 02:19:28 PM »
Not exactly a rant, but this seems like the best place for this post as I've posted most of my boss cot stories here.

So, one of my cots came to class a bit late today - no surprise, she's often a few minutes or even ten minutes late, and on a couple occasions has completely forgotten about class and left me to teach on my own. It irks me a tiny bit but she's one of the best if not the best of my cots both teaching and personality-wise, so I don't give her a hard time about it. Turns out today she actually had a good reason for being late.

She got yelled at by boss cot.

She was so upset, after class she told me about it and I gave her a hug. Being Korean, she wouldn't say her name when telling me about it, but she said "you know who. you have that experience with her"  :shocked: :laugh: :laugh:

She accepted that she may have been in the wrong (she changed a test question without running it by boss cot first, but tbf, she's in charge of making the tests since boss cot doesn't like doing any actual work) but felt like the way that boss cot responded was unreasonable. She expressed the same feelings I've had whenever this kind of things happened; "I'm not a child, I'm not stupid, I'm not her student or her daughter so she can't talk to me like that and raise her voice."

Also got some dirt on boss cot from the Korean teachers' point of view. I was telling her about how boss cot will never give me input BEFORE I do a class/activity, even if I ask, but will tell me how much she thinks it sucks after and give no meaningful advice for how to improve other than "you can figure it out" (uh, clearly I can't by your standards). I was told she does this with everyone and the reason is because she doesn't like doing any work that is difficult. That's why the test-making is shoved off on the other teachers.

I feel bad for my cot especially because she is so nice, but in a way it was kind of a... relief? Even though I know that most of the things boss cot hassles me about are unreasonable, I had been feeling insecure recently. But this just confirms that she's an ass to everyone, it's just that no-one else coteaches with her so they don't have as much contact with her haha