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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1880 on: October 21, 2016, 03:00:47 PM »
This culture drives me up the wall.



There is a strange insistance upon hearing out the students explanations for bad behavior at my school also and of course the explanations are ridiculous but always accepted. Is this common all over Korea? Kids at my school can essentially do anything and the only punishment seems to be occasionally writing some lines (and you have to get the teacher in charge of discipline for the entire school to bestow that harsh punishment).

I've been cursed at, flipped off, and just openly disrespected and it is just accepted as normal. Kids just get sent to the hall (where they usually just goof off and play), I have to send kids out of class all the time and so do the Korean teachers. Sent a couple kids out to the hall today and they pulled the fire alarm, did not even warrant a talking to from a Korean teacher.

Also, no matter what they do, if they say "sorry" afterwards then everything is ok. They usually say it with a big grin on their faces with no remorse whatsoever. A lot of my kids are great and it brings me a ton of joy teaching them but I will do my best to teach only adults after this year.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1881 on: October 21, 2016, 03:20:10 PM »
This culture drives me up the wall.



There is a strange insistance upon hearing out the students explanations for bad behavior at my school also and of course the explanations are ridiculous but always accepted. Is this common all over Korea? Kids at my school can essentially do anything and the only punishment seems to be occasionally writing some lines (and you have to get the teacher in charge of discipline for the entire school to bestow that harsh punishment).

I've been cursed at, flipped off, and just openly disrespected and it is just accepted as normal. Kids just get sent to the hall (where they usually just goof off and play), I have to send kids out of class all the time and so do the Korean teachers. Sent a couple kids out to the hall today and they pulled the fire alarm, did not even warrant a talking to from a Korean teacher.

Also, no matter what they do, if they say "sorry" afterwards then everything is ok. They usually say it with a big grin on their faces with no remorse whatsoever. A lot of my kids are great and it brings me a ton of joy teaching them but I will do my best to teach only adults after this year.
Honestly, I think the sorry is the worst part because they do it with that bratty exaggerated voice. "Oh, soooooorry teacher."

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1882 on: October 21, 2016, 03:30:48 PM »
I wish I worked where you do, #basedcowboyshirt. My school situation is the same but... we could stand to have more enforcement of rules (or maybe more rules in the first place?)


I did my best but I didn't finish my worksheets. Ugh. I'm gonna have to come in early on Monday

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1883 on: October 21, 2016, 03:31:45 PM »
I don't understand where you're all working. I work at a normal public school in a relatively low income area. When a kid is being disrespectful to anyone, whether it's a teacher or a student, all my co-teachers zero in on it immediately and either change that student's seat, or make them come sit by the teacher's desk, or just yell at them.

Maybe I'm just lucky, but yeah - I've never had to deal with that.
I work at a high school in Seoul and I have the good students come up to me all the time and complain about how the bad students never get in trouble. It happens all the time and no matter what the level the offense is. I had 4 students try to sneak out of my class (and they were terrible sneakers) twice so they could go listen to some of their friends practice a singing competition. I reported them for being so disrespectful and flat out disobeying me and nothing happened.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1884 on: October 21, 2016, 03:39:11 PM »
I got lucky and have really well behaved students. When they do step out of line, they're aware of it and they get disciplined by their homeroom teachers if not another KT (at least in middle school). In elementary the kids are sometimes rowdy but I'm assuming the homeroom teachers discipline them if they misbehave since they're overall well behaved kids.

I remember being in middle school and the kids were not nearly so polite-- much larger school though. My schools here are tiny. I am stuck in the middle of nowhere but I'd rather deal with that inconvenience than with rude and ill behaved students.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1885 on: October 21, 2016, 09:36:14 PM »
I don't understand where you're all working. I work at a normal public school in a relatively low income area. When a kid is being disrespectful to anyone, whether it's a teacher or a student, all my co-teachers zero in on it immediately and either change that student's seat, or make them come sit by the teacher's desk, or just yell at them.

Maybe I'm just lucky, but yeah - I've never had to deal with that.

I'm at 4 school and at 2 of them, as you say, my CTs would pounce on a student at the slightest hint of disrespect to me or them. Needless to say, these classes have the most positive atmosphere, the smartest kids, and there's never been a single incident of anything worse than simple hormones doing their thing.

At the other 2, one CT thinks every child is too precious for words and she doesn't have a solid bone in her body. The other CT is constantly in lala land and treats 6th grade students like adults.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1886 on: October 21, 2016, 09:55:46 PM »
I don't understand where you're all working. I work at a normal public school in a relatively low income area. When a kid is being disrespectful to anyone, whether it's a teacher or a student, all my co-teachers zero in on it immediately and either change that student's seat, or make them come sit by the teacher's desk, or just yell at them.

Maybe I'm just lucky, but yeah - I've never had to deal with that.

I'm at 4 school and at 2 of them, as you say, my CTs would pounce on a student at the slightest hint of disrespect to me or them. Needless to say, these classes have the most positive atmosphere, the smartest kids, and there's never been a single incident of anything worse than simple hormones doing their thing.

At the other 2, one CT thinks every child is too precious for words and she doesn't have a solid bone in her body. The other CT is constantly in lala land and treats 6th grade students like adults.

This is the problem in terms of the latter two schools you mentioned. They treat them as their parents treat them. However, the two schools you mentioned that are good at discipline will eventually succumb to the mollycoddling approach due to pressure. This might be due to the fact that parents, who are of the age when hagwon madness began, remember how hard it was for them, and so they are thinking that times have changed and we don't need all the pressure. I don't know for sure. But that coupled with the fact that they were probably physically punished as students, has led them to a softer approach. That's in the classroom only. Not home, where it's perfectly ok to beat them if they don't listen.

Now, you may think I contradicted myself in saying that teachers treat them in the same way their parents do, considering the physical punishment that parents do. However, the parents still treat their kids like kings despite that. Not every household is the same. And not all Korean parents are the same. But we're talking about the majority.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1887 on: October 24, 2016, 08:10:51 AM »
Green pork? What would make pork go green?
      Simply put, the green colour that is sometimes observed on bacon and ham is the result of the action of non-pathogenic bacteria which break down the oxygen transport protein myoglobin to produce porphyrin derivatives. These derivatives are large heterocyclic compounds which can have greenish colours.
      Back in the day, folks claimed that the green colour showed that the meat was no longer dangerous to consume: it certainly never killed anyone. However, there is little doubt that it did change the flavour considerably.

    Also, Auracana chickens lay green eggs, so it really is possible to have natural green eggs and ham!
I will not eat them in a house.
I do not like them with a mouse.
I do not like them here or there.
I do not like them ANYWHERE!

Ah, Some classic Dr. Seuss. Such a great story writer! An excellent role model for all our children!

...um... :shocked: :huh:
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« Reply #1888 on: October 24, 2016, 08:20:44 AM »
The same guy who wrote the Sneetches? :cry:



(Re: Green pork. I thought porphryn might have something to do with it^^;)
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1889 on: October 24, 2016, 08:25:40 AM »
The same guy who wrote the Sneetches? :cry:
Yet another childhood ruined by cold, uncaring reality.
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« Reply #1890 on: October 24, 2016, 08:48:01 AM »
The same guy who wrote the Sneetches? :cry:
Yet another childhood ruined by cold, uncaring reality.
I love my job!  :azn:

A good start to the week, but I'm afraid I get the last laugh here. My childhood was ruined long ago~

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1891 on: October 24, 2016, 08:56:22 AM »
The prostitution thread was killed off just as we were starting to get somewhere. :sad:

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« Reply #1892 on: October 24, 2016, 09:00:19 AM »
The prostitution thread was killed off just as we were starting to get somewhere. :sad:

And yet the same two people arguing race has continued for weeks.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1893 on: October 24, 2016, 09:20:12 AM »
Related to the piercing/tattoo thread. What is it with people? Why do you need to mutilate yourself? Is your life that boring and lacking in excitement that you need a tattoo or piercing to jazz it up? Instead of letting a tatt or piercing speak for your personality, why don't you let your personality speak for your personality? Not to mention, are you going to have that stuff going on into your 70s? Think long-term. Workplaces are right to be skeptical about hiring such people when it comes to certain fields. It demonstrates poor emotional control and rational decision making. If you're an artist or something like that, maybe not so much because in such cases more impulsive and outside the box thinking can be a plus. There's nothing sadder than a grown adult who is still passive-aggressively rebelling against their parents into their late 20s.

Although I do understand tattoos if they're about time in prison/a gang/the military/someone close to you dying, that sort of thing.

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« Reply #1894 on: October 24, 2016, 09:27:56 AM »
Related to the piercing/tattoo thread. What is it with people? Why do you need to mutilate yourself? Is your life that boring and lacking in excitement that you need a tattoo or piercing to jazz it up? Instead of letting a tatt or piercing speak for your personality, why don't you let your personality speak for your personality? Not to mention, are you going to have that stuff going on into your 70s? Think long-term. Workplaces are right to be skeptical about hiring such people when it comes to certain fields. It demonstrates poor emotional control and rational decision making. If you're an artist or something like that, maybe not so much because in such cases more impulsive and outside the box thinking can be a plus. There's nothing sadder than a grown adult who is still passive-aggressively rebelling against their parents into their late 20s.

Although I do understand tattoos if they're about time in prison/a gang/the military/someone close to you dying, that sort of thing.

So either someone needs to die or I need to go to jail to justify getting a tattoo?

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« Reply #1895 on: October 24, 2016, 09:30:02 AM »
Related to the piercing/tattoo thread. What is it with people? Why do you need to mutilate yourself? Is your life that boring and lacking in excitement that you need a tattoo or piercing to jazz it up? Instead of letting a tatt or piercing speak for your personality, why don't you let your personality speak for your personality? Not to mention, are you going to have that stuff going on into your 70s? Think long-term. Workplaces are right to be skeptical about hiring such people when it comes to certain fields. It demonstrates poor emotional control and rational decision making. If you're an artist or something like that, maybe not so much because in such cases more impulsive and outside the box thinking can be a plus. There's nothing sadder than a grown adult who is still passive-aggressively rebelling against their parents into their late 20s.

Although I do understand tattoos if they're about time in prison/a gang/the military/someone close to you dying, that sort of thing.

So either someone needs to die or I need to go to jail to justify getting a tattoo?

I'm not rebelling against my tattooed, pierced, working professional parents...

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1896 on: October 24, 2016, 09:34:24 AM »
Related to the piercing/tattoo thread. What is it with people? Why do you need to mutilate yourself? Is your life that boring and lacking in excitement that you need a tattoo or piercing to jazz it up? Instead of letting a tatt or piercing speak for your personality, why don't you let your personality speak for your personality? Not to mention, are you going to have that stuff going on into your 70s? Think long-term. Workplaces are right to be skeptical about hiring such people when it comes to certain fields. It demonstrates poor emotional control and rational decision making. If you're an artist or something like that, maybe not so much because in such cases more impulsive and outside the box thinking can be a plus. There's nothing sadder than a grown adult who is still passive-aggressively rebelling against their parents into their late 20s.

Although I do understand tattoos if they're about time in prison/a gang/the military/someone close to you dying, that sort of thing.

So either someone needs to die or I need to go to jail to justify getting a tattoo?

I'm not rebelling against my tattooed, pierced, working professional parents...

Seriously... also, I'm very open with my parents. I don't do spontaneous piercings just because so many things could go wrong if you go to the wrong place, but I also don't hide them from my parents or do it as a form of rebellion. :rolleyes:

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1897 on: October 24, 2016, 09:39:05 AM »
Related to the piercing/tattoo thread. What is it with people? Why do you need to mutilate yourself? Is your life that boring and lacking in excitement that you need a tattoo or piercing to jazz it up? Instead of letting a tatt or piercing speak for your personality, why don't you let your personality speak for your personality? Not to mention, are you going to have that stuff going on into your 70s? Think long-term. Workplaces are right to be skeptical about hiring such people when it comes to certain fields. It demonstrates poor emotional control and rational decision making. If you're an artist or something like that, maybe not so much because in such cases more impulsive and outside the box thinking can be a plus. There's nothing sadder than a grown adult who is still passive-aggressively rebelling against their parents into their late 20s.

Although I do understand tattoos if they're about time in prison/a gang/the military/someone close to you dying, that sort of thing.
Piercings last only as long as you have them in. I had multiple piercings in my teens and early 20s that you wouldnt know about now.
As for tattoos, you best get used to it. Something like 50% of people born after 1980 have at least 1 tattoo. It's the new normal. You sound like you havent had much contact with youth culture outside Korea in a long time. Even here they are becoming common.

Edit - i should add it isnt even youth culture. Its just culture. Does dyed hair also hurt your feelings? I heard thats pretty common thesedays.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1898 on: October 24, 2016, 09:39:57 AM »
It's persimmon season...

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« Reply #1899 on: October 24, 2016, 09:53:56 AM »
It's persimmon season...
I had never had a persimmon before coming to Korea and I didn't know what they were. A few months into my first year, Emart had a sale of the soft ones, but they were wrapped in the package upside down. I hadn't bought any tomatoes since coming because they seemed so expensive from what I was used to so I bought these, thinking that they were tomatoes. I got them home and started cutting them up to cook with, and even though I thought they seemed really weird, I kept on and made a savory pasta sauce with them. I never got over that and I don't like persimmons now...