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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #140 on: February 21, 2015, 02:44:52 AM »
I'm confused, I'm a Canadian living in the United States (25years). My recruiter said to get a background check online, instead of going to Canada. Am I to understand I need an RCMP background check? I live close enough and can run across the border however... I thought I was getting the online one for $60. Please help me to understand. I'll be teaching in S Korea as well.

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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #141 on: February 24, 2015, 05:04:29 PM »
QUESTION:

Just say I go to Canada and I buy a money order in Canada for $25. Then I return to Korea after my vacation in Canada, and then after returning to Korea I order my Canadian CRC. Will the RCMP still accept my Canadian money order purchased from Canada from a Canadian bank (even if I send the request form from Korea)?

Once you're in Korea you aren't able to request a Canadian CRC (unless you know someone in the RCMP or you get lucky). Once outside Canada, you must be fingerprinted by a local police agency then contact a third party to submit your fingerprints for you. We aren't able to submit our fingerprints ourselves any longer, by mail or e-mail.

I'm not sure what the money order for $25 is for? To use a third party to submit your prints will cost at least $150 CAD.

The money order is for the processing fee.
I still have the fingerprinting form sent to be from the Canadian consulate here in Korea. I will still get my fingerprints. I will still send it to Canada. So who is that thrid party I can send it through?

I used XL-ID Solutions and had a positive experience. https://xl-id.com You can apply on their website and they'll send you an email with all the relevant info. You have to mail them your prints and they apply to the RCMP for you.

Alternatively, if you or your family know someone in a local police station (non-RCMP) that will run a check for you then do that. I just had the local police check with no fingerprints and it was accepted at immigration.


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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #142 on: February 25, 2015, 08:01:03 AM »
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I'm confused, I'm a Canadian living in the United States (25years). My recruiter said to get a background check online, instead of going to Canada. Am I to understand I need an RCMP background check? I live close enough and can run across the border however... I thought I was getting the online one for $60. Please help me to understand. I'll be teaching in S Korea as well.

That's actually a strange circumstance and if you have immediate family living in Canada you may want to see about going to the local police and using that address for your CRC with VSS.
That might be the quickest way. If not your only option will probably be getting prints done in the US and having them sent to the RCMP for the CRC/VSS. Also, consider that depending on who you get in Korean immigration if they notice you've lived/been domiciled in the US for that period of time they might ask for an American police check. It's unlikely but possible.

I'll leave it up to you to determine the cost/benefit of going overkill and having every bit of documentation possible and being prepared for any eventuality. Also, when you are getting your documents notarised it might be helpful to get an extra 2-3 copies of everything notarised at the same time. If something is lost or misplaced those additional copies for your own records are viable for 6 months and could save you headaches with international phone calls to try to sort everything out.

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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #143 on: March 05, 2015, 12:18:56 PM »
QUESTION:

Just say I go to Canada and I buy a money order in Canada for $25. Then I return to Korea after my vacation in Canada, and then after returning to Korea I order my Canadian CRC. Will the RCMP still accept my Canadian money order purchased from Canada from a Canadian bank (even if I send the request form from Korea)?

Once you're in Korea you aren't able to request a Canadian CRC (unless you know someone in the RCMP or you get lucky). Once outside Canada, you must be fingerprinted by a local police agency then contact a third party to submit your fingerprints for you. We aren't able to submit our fingerprints ourselves any longer, by mail or e-mail.

I'm not sure what the money order for $25 is for? To use a third party to submit your prints will cost at least $150 CAD.

The money order is for the processing fee.
I still have the fingerprinting form sent to be from the Canadian consulate here in Korea. I will still get my fingerprints. I will still send it to Canada. So who is that thrid party I can send it through?

I used XL-ID Solutions and had a positive experience. https://xl-id.com You can apply on their website and they'll send you an email with all the relevant info. You have to mail them your prints and they apply to the RCMP for you.

Alternatively, if you or your family know someone in a local police station (non-RCMP) that will run a check for you then do that. I just had the local police check with no fingerprints and it was accepted at immigration.

How did you get a CRC with a Vulnerable Sector Check through XL-ID? The RCMP says that VSCs can only be processed by the police service where you live.

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cr-cj/index-eng.htm#rc
« Last Edit: March 05, 2015, 12:32:04 PM by travelingCeee »

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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #144 on: March 05, 2015, 01:13:47 PM »
You can't get a Vulnerable Sector Check for a job outside Canada...I had a recruiter try to tell me it was mandatory, so I contacted the RCMP and this is a copy/paste of the e-mail:

Myself:
Hello,

I am applying to teach english in a public school in south korea and the board of education requires a vulnerable sector check by the RCMP. However, when I went to edmonton police services today to get fingerprinted, I was told it is not possible to obtain a vulnerable sector check for use outside Canada. Is this correct?

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RCMP:
Good day
 
 Vulnerable sector checks can only be performed for positions located within Canada. Police agencies are not authorized to perform vulnerable sector checks for positions located outside of Canada. This rule applies even if the person will be working for a Canadian organization

Thank you for contacting us,
Merci de nous contacter ,
The Call Center of CFSS - Centre d’appel du STDC
RCMP - Forensic Science and Identification Services
GRC - Services des sciences judiciaires et de l’identité
Canadian Criminal Real Time Identification Services
Services canadiens d'identification criminelle en temps réel
Civil Fingerprint Screening Services
Services de triage des dactylogrammes civils

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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #145 on: March 05, 2015, 07:08:03 PM »
A Vulnerable Sector Check isn't necessary for Canadians. My last criminal check was from a local police detachment and didn't require fingerprints. It was approved by immigration a couple of weeks ago. Recruiters often don't know what they're talking about when it comes to Canadian criminal record checks. Ignore them or go with someone else.

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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #146 on: March 06, 2015, 07:56:33 AM »
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A Vulnerable Sector Check isn't necessary for Canadians. My last criminal check was from a local police detachment and didn't require fingerprints. It was approved by immigration a couple of weeks ago. Recruiters often don't know what they're talking about when it comes to Canadian criminal record checks. Ignore them or go with someone else.

Good to know. I'll have to tell my dad that next time I ask him to print me off my next record check so he doesn't check that box

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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #147 on: June 09, 2015, 12:35:38 PM »
I just had my fingerprints and CRC done by the RCMP. A friend is an Inspector with them and he told me the best way to go about it.

He emailed me a copy of the form the RCMP use. I will attach it.

Print it out. It must be 8.5" X 14 " and it must be in colour.

He suggested 4 different organisations the RCMP uses as an intermediary. Of the 4 I chose
XL-ID in Montreal. Their website seemed to be clearer and easier to deal with.

I forgot to write the order number down that you get from XL-ID after you have paid and include it in the EMS package . I called and left a voice mail message telling them and I gave my phone number. Someone called me from Montreal straight away and said it was no problem they had me in their system. Customer service!

I printed out the form and went to the local cop shop in my town of 15,000 people. I said I needed fingerprints done. They were accommodating and after finding the right room and person who had the ink pad we did them. The form is very easy to follow and tells you what to do and where to place each finger and how (roll it or place them flat)

I have read that there are cop shops here that won't do foreigner prints. That is crap. If you were arrested for something they'd take your prints pretty quick!

I sent the form to XL-ID May 27th via EMS at the local post office. They got it and scanned my fingerprints as per the RCMP's instructions then forwarded the scanned prints to Ottawa and sent me an email on May 3rd saying they'd done so. I got an email yesterday, June 8th, that they were done and being picked up by a courier and being sent back to me in Korea. I expect them late this week or early next week. So, about 3 weeks from sending them to Canada to receiving my CRC back.

It cost $245, which is expensive, but that covers everything, including the courier back to Korea. 

Quick and painless.

The form is attached. Here's the website. https://xl-id.com/
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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #148 on: June 13, 2015, 09:46:57 AM »
I got my fingerprints yesterday, June 12. So from mailing them to Canada to receiving them in Korea was a total of 14 days I believe.

I clean! I fooled them all again  hahahahahahahahahaha
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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #149 on: July 07, 2015, 03:27:54 PM »
My office admin is having difficulty finding Legal paper (8.5 x 14") metric (size 215.9 x 355.6). Where can we find some on which to print the fingerprint form?

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« Reply #150 on: July 07, 2015, 05:45:33 PM »
Really? There should e some at your school. It's B4 size paper. The normal photocopies are done on A4.
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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #151 on: July 08, 2015, 06:42:21 AM »
Thank you for reminding me about it being B4. That's prolly the clarifying info they need.

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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #152 on: August 17, 2015, 06:32:28 AM »
For anyone in Toronto, don't go to your local police station, go directly to one of the companies in town that has the criminal background check, fingerprint service. I went with the commissionaires office, it took 72 hours for the RCMP to process the request, and it was mailed to me the day after.

I paid around $70 that includes the $25 charged by the RCMP and the fee charged by the commissionaires company.

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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #153 on: October 30, 2015, 09:43:53 AM »
I am currently in Korea and may need to get a new RCMP police check.  I no how to get the actual police check but does immigration here still require that it be stamped by the Korean consulate in Canada.  When I came in 2010 it was required but I have heard that it is no longer necessary just have it notarized.

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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #154 on: October 30, 2015, 11:36:14 AM »
I am currently in Korea and may need to get a new RCMP police check.  I no how to get the actual police check but does immigration here still require that it be stamped by the Korean consulate in Canada.  When I came in 2010 it was required but I have heard that it is no longer necessary just have it notarized.

I think it is the opposite, unfortunately. When I was getting my documents ready this summer, the RCMP check did not need to be notarized, but I did have to take it to the consulate to have it verified and stamped there.

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« Reply #155 on: March 15, 2016, 12:51:06 PM »
I went to get my CRC today at the local RCMP and they said I didn't need to give my fingerprints. It still says on the RCMP website that you need fingerprints taken, so I'm just wondering if this is common now. I saw this happened to a poster last year.

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« Reply #156 on: March 15, 2016, 03:06:02 PM »
I went to get my CRC today at the local RCMP and they said I didn't need to give my fingerprints. It still says on the RCMP website that you need fingerprints taken, so I'm just wondering if this is common now. I saw this happened to a poster last year.

The RCMP may not require your fingerprints to run a general CRC, but your Korean immigration will not accept a CRC done without fingerprints (unless they've changed the rules since I came here in September). Just tell your local RCMP that it's to get a visa for an international job and you need to have a fingerprint check done.

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« Reply #157 on: March 16, 2016, 07:47:33 AM »
I went to get my CRC today at the local RCMP and they said I didn't need to give my fingerprints. It still says on the RCMP website that you need fingerprints taken, so I'm just wondering if this is common now. I saw this happened to a poster last year.

The RCMP may not require your fingerprints to run a general CRC, but your Korean immigration will not accept a CRC done without fingerprints (unless they've changed the rules since I came here in September). Just tell your local RCMP that it's to get a visa for an international job and you need to have a fingerprint check done.

On your CRC, does it have images of your fingerprints?

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Re: Fingerprints/Criminal Record Check (Canadian Teachers)
« Reply #158 on: March 16, 2016, 07:57:30 AM »
Vulnerable sector checks can only be performed for positions located within Canada. Police agencies are not authorized to perform vulnerable sector checks for positions located outside of Canada. This rule applies even if the person will be working for a Canadian organization

This is absolutely true. You can't get a Vulnerable Sector Check from Canada for a job outside of Canada.

Also, as someone here on my fifth year now, I've had to submit two Canadian CRCs in that time, neither of which needed fingerprinting. I just got one from my local police in Ontario, and the other I used an online service that did the check through a Nova Scotia (or maybe NB) police station. The only fingerprints I've ever given to Korea is the thumb and index fingers on those scanners when you go through immigration.

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« Reply #159 on: March 16, 2016, 08:41:25 AM »
Also, as someone here on my fifth year now, I've had to submit two Canadian CRCs in that time, neither of which needed fingerprinting. I just got one from my local police in Ontario, and the other I used an online service that did the check through a Nova Scotia (or maybe NB) police station. The only fingerprints I've ever given to Korea is the thumb and index fingers on those scanners when you go through immigration.

Cool that's what I wanted to know.

My mother thinks that if there's a record matching one's exact name, that they'll bring one back and have fingerprints done to confirm it's not one's record.