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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #40 on: February 08, 2019, 09:04:59 AM »
and usually don't even play any instruments, due to dancing?
I saw a kpop group on the telly. Think they were called Gubongbong or something (kpop fans feel free to correct me). And they were doing all those wacky dances while playing instruments. One girl was playing one of those keytars that Jem and the Holograms would play. Another girl played the bass, but it was fretless. Strange choice, but I'm not a big kpop fan so maybe fretless bass is a big thing in that world. One girl played the clarinet. Another girl had a snare drum strapped to her like you'd see in a drum line.

Anyway, they did all the dance moves while also playing their instruments. So you might enjoy them Kayos. Check them out on yourube or maybe even at your local record shop. You could do a lit worse than Gubongbong.
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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #41 on: February 08, 2019, 10:06:04 AM »
There are a bunch of YouTube videos online that show these groups singing without auto-tune. It ain't pretty!
There's also A LOT more of a lot of them singing, singing well and playing musical instruments.

Doubt it! But I guess you only recognize the "K" part in K-pop and defend it to the death.

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #42 on: February 08, 2019, 10:12:26 AM »
There are a bunch of YouTube videos online that show these groups singing without auto-tune. It ain't pretty!
There's also A LOT more of a lot of them singing, singing well and playing musical instruments.

Doubt it! But I guess you only recognize the "K" part in K-pop and defend it to the death.

Lol do you really think these people who are trained and picked from childhood have no talent? What do you think they do during all that time spent training?

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #43 on: February 08, 2019, 10:17:36 AM »
Lol do you really think these people who are trained and picked from childhood have no talent? What do you think they do during all that time spent training?

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #44 on: February 08, 2019, 10:23:21 AM »
Lol do you really think these people who are trained and picked from childhood have no talent? What do you think they do during all that time spent training?

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Riiiiiight. I bet you're probably one of those people that thinks T-Pain can't sing without autotune.

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« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2019, 10:25:30 AM »
Lol do you really think these people who are trained and picked from childhood have no talent? What do you think they do during all that time spent training?

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Dancing
Dieting
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Riiiiiight. I bet you're probably one of those people that thinks T-Pain can't sing without autotune.

Nah, I'm just one of those people who makes dumb jokes on waygook.org because deskwarming is boring.

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2019, 10:43:55 AM »
Doubt it! But I guess you only recognize the "K" part in K-pop and defend it to the death.
So which groups were that you saw signing without auto tune? I assume you believe you have sufficient expertise to discuss this subject, so please, show us what you know.

Anyways, a simple youtube search of SNSD (showing my age) gives this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm-KaShrvok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zbwSlxsaO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhtGYtdr66Y

Anyways, you try singing live while also doing the equivalent of an aerobic workout and see how well you sound.

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2019, 11:25:52 AM »
There are a bunch of YouTube videos online that show these groups singing without auto-tune. It ain't pretty!
There's also A LOT more of a lot of them singing, singing well and playing musical instruments.

Doubt it! But I guess you only recognize the "K" part in K-pop and defend it to the death.

Lol do you really think these people who are trained and picked from childhood have no talent? What do you think they do during all that time spent training?

A lot of them are picked for their looks. With 10+ hours "work" days over a 2-3 year period then I'm sure you can teach a monkey to put some dance moves together.

Choreography. Yes, their dance moves are very synced up.

Extreme dieting. No-one wants to see a K-pop artist looking healthy.

Visual arts. Takes practice to give all that "aegyo" to Camera 1, then Camera 2.

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #48 on: February 08, 2019, 11:27:37 AM »
Doubt it! But I guess you only recognize the "K" part in K-pop and defend it to the death.
So which groups were that you saw signing without auto tune? I assume you believe you have sufficient expertise to discuss this subject, so please, show us what you know.

Anyways, a simple youtube search of SNSD (showing my age) gives this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm-KaShrvok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zbwSlxsaO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhtGYtdr66Y

Anyways, you try singing live while also doing the equivalent of an aerobic workout and see how well you sound.

From your links, I see that you know about the YouTube. Search for K-pop groups with the auto-tune on.

There's at least one good singer in every K-pop group (main vocal, I believe the industry calls it) but the rest are back-ups and a pretty face.

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #49 on: February 08, 2019, 11:43:39 AM »
People who think k-pop sucks, please tell us what recent western pop you like. I'm curious.

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2019, 11:44:27 AM »
Doubt it! But I guess you only recognize the "K" part in K-pop and defend it to the death.
So which groups were that you saw signing without auto tune? I assume you believe you have sufficient expertise to discuss this subject, so please, show us what you know.

Anyways, a simple youtube search of SNSD (showing my age) gives this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm-KaShrvok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zbwSlxsaO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhtGYtdr66Y

Anyways, you try singing live while also doing the equivalent of an aerobic workout and see how well you sound.

From your links, I see that you know about the YouTube. Search for K-pop groups with the auto-tune on.

There's at least one good singer in every K-pop group (main vocal, I believe the industry calls it) but the rest are back-ups and a pretty face.

"Yeah, the vocalist is good, but the drummer can't sing for shit so this is a bad band."

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2019, 11:45:44 AM »
Doubt it! But I guess you only recognize the "K" part in K-pop and defend it to the death.
So which groups were that you saw signing without auto tune? I assume you believe you have sufficient expertise to discuss this subject, so please, show us what you know.

Anyways, a simple youtube search of SNSD (showing my age) gives this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm-KaShrvok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zbwSlxsaO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhtGYtdr66Y

Anyways, you try singing live while also doing the equivalent of an aerobic workout and see how well you sound.

From your links, I see that you know about the YouTube. Search for K-pop groups with the auto-tune on.

There's at least one good singer in every K-pop group (main vocal, I believe the industry calls it) but the rest are back-ups and a pretty face.

"Yeah, the vocalist is good, but the drummer can't sing for shit so this is a bad band."

Are you classifying K-pop groups as "bands" now?

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2019, 11:47:15 AM »
People who think k-pop sucks, please tell us what recent western pop you like. I'm curious.

It doesn't "suck". It is disposable throwaway music that's good for a week or two before it's replaced by the next catchy tune. It certainly isn't "great".

K-pop is not a "singing" industry. It is a marketing industry with a product being sold to make the most money in the shortest time possible. The product goes through various life cycles and re-introduced in a different concept until the ideas dry up and the public become disinterested.

Very few groups manage to last long based on their talent. Some prior generation groups still do well for nostalgia reasons.
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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2019, 11:49:51 AM »
Doubt it! But I guess you only recognize the "K" part in K-pop and defend it to the death.
So which groups were that you saw signing without auto tune? I assume you believe you have sufficient expertise to discuss this subject, so please, show us what you know.

Anyways, a simple youtube search of SNSD (showing my age) gives this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm-KaShrvok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zbwSlxsaO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhtGYtdr66Y

Anyways, you try singing live while also doing the equivalent of an aerobic workout and see how well you sound.

From your links, I see that you know about the YouTube. Search for K-pop groups with the auto-tune on.

There's at least one good singer in every K-pop group (main vocal, I believe the industry calls it) but the rest are back-ups and a pretty face.

"Yeah, the vocalist is good, but the drummer can't sing for shit so this is a bad band."

Are you classifying K-pop groups as "bands" now?

For sure some of them take the form of bands (ex. CNBLUE). I don't see how classifying them as bands or "boybands" or "girl groups" makes much a difference. I don't think many people are under the illusion that the lead dancers in kpop groups are also phenomenal singers. The dancers mostly dance, the singers mostly sing, etc.

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2019, 11:59:40 AM »
Doubt it! But I guess you only recognize the "K" part in K-pop and defend it to the death.
So which groups were that you saw signing without auto tune? I assume you believe you have sufficient expertise to discuss this subject, so please, show us what you know.

Anyways, a simple youtube search of SNSD (showing my age) gives this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm-KaShrvok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zbwSlxsaO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhtGYtdr66Y

Anyways, you try singing live while also doing the equivalent of an aerobic workout and see how well you sound.

From your links, I see that you know about the YouTube. Search for K-pop groups with the auto-tune on.

There's at least one good singer in every K-pop group (main vocal, I believe the industry calls it) but the rest are back-ups and a pretty face.

"Yeah, the vocalist is good, but the drummer can't sing for shit so this is a bad band."

Are you classifying K-pop groups as "bands" now?

For sure some of them take the form of bands (ex. CNBLUE). I don't see how classifying them as bands or "boybands" or "girl groups" makes much a difference. I don't think many people are under the illusion that the lead dancers in kpop groups are also phenomenal singers. The dancers mostly dance, the singers mostly sing, etc.

I wonder why all these "idol singers" rarely make it past the first/second round of "Hidden Mask Singer". Them being "phenomenal singers" and all that.

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2019, 12:01:10 PM »
People who think k-pop sucks, please tell us what recent western pop you like. I'm curious.

I suspect a fair percentage of the people who think K-pop sucks don't particularly care for western pop, either.

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« Reply #56 on: February 08, 2019, 12:17:13 PM »
People who think k-pop sucks, please tell us what recent western pop you like. I'm curious.

I suspect a fair percentage of the people who think K-pop sucks don't particularly care for western pop, either.

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #57 on: February 08, 2019, 12:24:40 PM »

It doesn't "suck". It is disposable throwaway music that's good for a week or two before it's replaced by the next catchy tune. It certainly isn't "great".

K-pop is not a "singing" industry. It is a marketing industry with a product being sold to make the most money in the shortest time possible. The product goes through various life cycles and re-introduced in a different concept until the ideas dry up and the public become disinterested.

Very few groups manage to last long based on their talent. Some prior generation groups still do well for nostalgia reasons.
Thank goodness there are no one-hit wonders with other kinds of music.

Also, pretty much every Kpop song from the 90s (my generation of Kpop) on the youtube page will have comments like "Who's watching this in 2018?" and tons of upvotes. Same with 90s non-K-pop music.

You want to see a bunch of people from my generation go nuts? If they're Korean, put on some 90s kpop. Or if they aren't, put on some Britney Spears, Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, 98 Degrees, Janet Jackson, Spice Girls, Jay-Z, 2Pac, and a bunch of one-hit wonder pop/R&B songs from back in the day.

I think there's two kinds of people- People who went to a high school where everyone was listening to alternative and rock and maybe some types who listened to techno/pop and the weird kids were the ones who listened to rap. And then those who went to a high school where rap/R&B/pop were the dominant genres with some poppy alternative thrown in. Basically, was your high school environment diverse and did you hang out with a diverse group of people?

I think those that hate on Kpop will be overwhelmingly coming from non-diverse, rock-dominant environments. Look at the people who are into Kpop in Korea- they overwhelmingly come from diverse cities, are younger, have diverse groups of friends.Those who don't? My experience has been they tend to not have the most diverse circles of friends, tend to be older, and come from less-diverse environments back home.

Now that being said, there is a subcurrent of young hipster types who won't listen to anything liked by more than 20 people.

The better song of the 90s and the one that gets you happier when you're drunk at the bar is
A) Smells Like Teen Spirit/Wonderwall
B) No Diggity/I Want it That Way

Your answer will likely correlate with whether you are fine with Kpop as well as how diverse your upbringing was.

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« Reply #58 on: February 08, 2019, 12:32:27 PM »
I wonder why all these "idol singers" rarely make it past the first/second round of "Hidden Mask Singer". Them being "phenomenal singers" and all that.
But they're not just singers, they're performers. That means you have to not just be a decent singer, but be able to dance, be able to learn the dance, remember it, repeat it, and most importantly "Bring it". That's every bit as much of your body being involved as in playing a musical instrument. You have to keep in rhythm, motions and subtle expressions, coordinated moves, physical training, teamwork. Same with playing an instrument, albeit different kinds of physical activity. Instead of adding an auditory element, it adds a visual one to its form.

And for people upset that they don't write their own songs (and some do), that's just part of the effort of everyone involved and them taking something and using it as part of their performance. Do we blame rock musicians for not building their own drums or guitars? "Well, he plays guitar alright, but did he build it himself??? No? Then he has nothing on this guy I know who hand carves violins and then plays them." It's just another arbitrary criteria to justify an illogical opinion and attempt to build value into it.

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Re: Best K pop songs in the last ten years
« Reply #59 on: February 08, 2019, 12:39:04 PM »
When did it become bad to simply not like something?