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Re: So she fired me.....
« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2018, 04:46:34 PM »
I can assure everyone that the new D10 VISA rules are 100% true. I got the news from an official source. They will start come january, the old system will cease then.

The D10 VISA system was being abused. Not really by E2 English language teachers, but other VISA types.


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Re: So she fired me.....
« Reply #41 on: December 11, 2018, 02:09:04 PM »
Did she give you any legal written notice?  Keep working, pretend to accept it, then near the 11th month demand pro rated severance and a letter of release.  If she fires you and claims there was an agreement, then you ask her to provide proof and deny there was one.  I am assuming you didn't agree.  Then go to the labor board claiming a 109th or 11th month firing.  It is illegal.  Go to work everyday and report in but don't teach classes.  Call the labor board if she bars you entry at that time.  If she didn't write anything down and you didn't sign anything, she can't fire you.  Don't tell her this as she may try.  Then in middle January tell her again what you want.  If she doesn't give it and fires you, she has no proof and you deny having any prior knowledge. 

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Re: So she fired me.....
« Reply #42 on: December 11, 2018, 02:26:53 PM »
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Re: So she fired me.....
« Reply #43 on: December 11, 2018, 03:30:10 PM »
Do they really think someone with years of being a research student and a graduate from a top university is going to want to fill one of those 2.1 hogwon jobs?

I don't agree with the change at all, but this change, like just about every other general change to immigration policy, isn't made with E2 visa holders in mind, nor is it the case that most jobs for foreigners are jobs at hagwons paying 2.1 million won per month. As of 2017, there were 14,000 people on E2 visas, as compared with 20,000 E7s, about 4,000 people on the points visa, as well as 2,000 E1s.

I'm not sure where you got your info from, but wikipedia posts some significantly different numbers for E-visa holders for the year 2017.

E-1              7,491
E-2              30,922
E-3              9,618
E-4              1,345
E-5              2,206
E-6              3,765
E-7              47,528
E-9              140,072
E-10            10,720

Not that it really matters: your point stands in that E-2 visa holders are a pretty small minority and were probably not who the gov had in mind when they came up with these changes.  :undecided:
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Re: So she fired me.....
« Reply #44 on: December 11, 2018, 03:46:55 PM »
Do they really think someone with years of being a research student and a graduate from a top university is going to want to fill one of those 2.1 hogwon jobs?

I don't agree with the change at all, but this change, like just about every other general change to immigration policy, isn't made with E2 visa holders in mind, nor is it the case that most jobs for foreigners are jobs at hagwons paying 2.1 million won per month. As of 2017, there were 14,000 people on E2 visas, as compared with 20,000 E7s, about 4,000 people on the points visa, as well as 2,000 E1s.

I'm not sure where you got your info from, but wikipedia posts some significantly different numbers for E-visa holders for the year 2017.

E-1              7,491
E-2              30,922
E-3              9,618
E-4              1,345
E-5              2,206
E-6              3,765
E-7              47,528
E-9              140,072
E-10            10,720

Not that it really matters: your point stands in that E-2 visa holders are a pretty small minority and were probably not who the gov had in mind when they came up with these changes.  :undecided:

What's E9? Noraebang Hookers?
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Re: So she fired me.....
« Reply #45 on: December 11, 2018, 07:45:57 PM »

I'm not sure where you got your info from, but wikipedia posts some significantly different numbers for E-visa holders for the year 2017.

E-1              7,491
E-2              30,922
E-3              9,618
E-4              1,345
E-5              2,206
E-6              3,765
E-7              47,528
E-9              140,072
E-10            10,720

Not that it really matters: your point stands in that E-2 visa holders are a pretty small minority and were probably not who the gov had in mind when they came up with these changes.  :undecided:

I don't know how those numbers are calculated, but I've never seen numbers that high for E2 visas.

Here's another comparable source:

http://www.moj.go.kr/doc_html/viewer/skin/doc.html?fn=438e6b664928d561612c6c28deb357d4&rs=/doc_html/viewer/result/201811/

The E9 visa is called 'non-skilled employment', for people working in areas such as manufacturing or agriculture.

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Re: So she fired me.....
« Reply #46 on: December 12, 2018, 11:56:29 AM »
For the love of God don't quit when you are on your 11th month. Follow the law to the letter and get out of there as soon as you can.

OP, no disrespect but you sound like a doormat. Your boss has no respect for you because you have tolerated a lot of nonsense that most people in your position would not have tolerated. Your boss has picked up on this and is going to push you and push you because you haven't set any strong boundaries in the past. I'm gonna be even more blunt. If your boyfriend has sided with your boss in the past ( and it sounds like he has ) then he is probably also accustomed to being used as a doormat. The only difference is that he is Korean and is probably used to being crapped on by his superiors. Do better for yourself next go around. I've been in your situation too. You can't be too nice to certain kinds of people. They see that as a weakness. Your time for sticking up for yourself was at the beginning of the contract though. Now suddenly deciding to grow a spine and set boundaries is going to give your boss too much leverage. Follow the law, smile nod and proceed, and then get out. There is no need to devise any elaborate ways to fight her now. The time to fight her was the FIRST time she threw nonsense at you. Good luck!


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Re: So she fired me.....
« Reply #47 on: December 12, 2018, 01:46:17 PM »

I'm not sure where you got your info from, but wikipedia posts some significantly different numbers for E-visa holders for the year 2017.

E-1              7,491
E-2              30,922
E-3              9,618
E-4              1,345
E-5              2,206
E-6              3,765
E-7              47,528
E-9              140,072
E-10            10,720

Not that it really matters: your point stands in that E-2 visa holders are a pretty small minority and were probably not who the gov had in mind when they came up with these changes.  :undecided:

I don't know how those numbers are calculated, but I've never seen numbers that high for E2 visas.

Here's another comparable source:

http://www.moj.go.kr/doc_html/viewer/skin/doc.html?fn=438e6b664928d561612c6c28deb357d4&rs=/doc_html/viewer/result/201811/

The E9 visa is called 'non-skilled employment', for people working in areas such as manufacturing or agriculture.

If you check the source reference you will see that the number of E2s for 2017 is 14,300. I don't know why the Wikipedia is misrepresenting that. Or maybe I'm not reading the right thing.

http://www.moj.go.kr/doc_html/viewer/skin/doc.html?fn=1bb0551c98af500ae76119d0eb5fd845&rs=/doc_html/viewer/result/201811/

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Re: So she fired me.....
« Reply #48 on: December 12, 2018, 01:50:22 PM »
What's E9? Noraebang Hookers?

That would be the E6

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Re: So she fired me.....
« Reply #49 on: December 13, 2018, 11:56:54 AM »

I'm not sure where you got your info from, but wikipedia posts some significantly different numbers for E-visa holders for the year 2017.

E-1              7,491
E-2              30,922
E-3              9,618
E-4              1,345
E-5              2,206
E-6              3,765
E-7              47,528
E-9              140,072
E-10            10,720

Not that it really matters: your point stands in that E-2 visa holders are a pretty small minority and were probably not who the gov had in mind when they came up with these changes.  :undecided:

I don't know how those numbers are calculated, but I've never seen numbers that high for E2 visas.

Here's another comparable source:

http://www.moj.go.kr/doc_html/viewer/skin/doc.html?fn=438e6b664928d561612c6c28deb357d4&rs=/doc_html/viewer/result/201811/

The E9 visa is called 'non-skilled employment', for people working in areas such as manufacturing or agriculture.

If you check the source reference you will see that the number of E2s for 2017 is 14,300. I don't know why the Wikipedia is misrepresenting that. Or maybe I'm not reading the right thing.

http://www.moj.go.kr/doc_html/viewer/skin/doc.html?fn=1bb0551c98af500ae76119d0eb5fd845&rs=/doc_html/viewer/result/201811/
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   Thanks for going to the effort to find that!

   That discrepancy is really bizarre. I mean, wiki isn't always 100% accurate, but...
   I wonder if anybody a bit better at reading Korean than I am would be able to tell us what the paragraphs above the graph says ...  :huh:

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Re: So she fired me.....
« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2018, 07:20:31 PM »
Here's what the text on pages 38 and 39 says:

"As of late 2017, there were 2,180,498 registered foreigners, an increase of 6.4% (131,075 people) since 2016. The average increase over the past five years has been 8.5%. Registered foreigners now make up 4.21% of the overall population, up from 3.08% in 2013. Based on nationality, Chinese were the largest group (46.7%), followed by Vietnamese (7.8%), Thai (7%), Americans (6.6%), Uzbeks (2.9%) and Filipinos (2.7%). Thais overtook Americans for the first time based on a visa exemption that came into effect in December 2017.

Student visas and industrial trainees saw major increases over last year, but short-term work C4 visas saw the largest increase due to the introduction of a seasonal worker system. Working holiday visas for overseas Koreans decreased, while F4 visas increased by more than 10%."

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Re: So she fired me.....
« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2018, 08:31:08 PM »
E-2 visas issued:

2010 - 23,317 
2011 - 22,541 
2012 - 21,603 
2013 - 20,030 
2014 - 17,949 
2015 - 16,144 
2016 - 15,450
2017 - 14,352
2018 - 13,897


Looks like demand is shrinking.  :-[

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Re: So she fired me.....
« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2018, 08:48:01 PM »
Looks like demand is shrinking.

More likely the number of native speakers on F-visas has increased and they are taking all the work.
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Catch my drift?

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« Reply #53 on: December 13, 2018, 09:15:52 PM »
Most F visa holders are from China. Even most F-4s.

(It'd be interesting to see the stats of F visas by country breakdown if anyone has them.)

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« Reply #54 on: December 13, 2018, 10:29:06 PM »
Most F visa holders are from China. Even most F-4s.

(It'd be interesting to see the stats of F visas by country breakdown if anyone has them.)


Plus, a lot of formerly full time E2 jobs have been broken down into P/T positions filled by F-visas. After-school gigs are a prime example.
Catch my drift?