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Author Topic: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)  (Read 1525 times)

Offline heywonnie

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St. Maryís Elementary School is a prestigious private elementary school located in Daejeon.
We are looking for a native English speacking teacher.

Requirements
- Have commitment, dedication and a positive approach to teaching
- Preferred B. A. in Education or English with a 120+hours TESOL/FEFL certification or a U. S. State Teacherís Certification or Canadian Provincial Teacherís Certification.
 
Working Hours 
- 5 days a week, 08:30~16:30

Teaching Hours
Ė 20~22 hours per week (40 minutes classes)

Payment
- 2.2Million won per a month(Adjustable according to qualification)

Benefits
- Housing is provided by school or housing allowance 400,000 KRW per month.
- Employers contributions to National health care and pension plan
- Severance bonus equal to one monthís salary upon completion of yearly contract.

Application Materials
- Application form
- Current E2, F2, F4 or F6 visa
- Original degree(Notarized and verified by the Korean Consulate)
- Criminal back ground check(FBI/RCMP) with Apostille seal

Applications will be accepted from December 10th. 2018 to December 24th. 3PM


To Apply         
   - e-mail  sm1645@korea.kr
   - Visit    62 Daeheung-ro, Jung-Gu, Daejeon

School Website : http://seongmoes.djsch.kr

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2018, 09:45:28 PM »
you want a licensed teacher for 2.2 million a month ? Good luck with that..

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2018, 11:41:48 PM »
At least pretend you have respect for the applicants and offer 2.5m minimum

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2018, 08:30:27 AM »
you want a licensed teacher for 2.2 million a month ? Good luck with that..

A licensed UK primary school teacher starts on 23,000 a year, which is 1,585 quid a month after tax. = 2248639.50 won. 2.2 mil plus 400,000 housing allowance would work out more than that after tax. With a lot less paperwork and hassle.

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2018, 08:41:37 AM »
you want a licensed teacher for 2.2 million a month ? Good luck with that..

A licensed UK primary school teacher starts on 23,000 a year, which is 1,585 quid a month after tax. = 2248639.50 won. 2.2 mil plus 400,000 housing allowance would work out more than that after tax. With a lot less paperwork and hassle.

But you are asking someone to give up all the comforts of home, and fly halfway around the world, enter a new culture, know nobody, and have to learn the language if they want a chance to survive. 

A UK teacher will get 12 weeks of holiday as part of the deal, a pension plan that allows early retirement, and a choice of unions to back them up should trouble arise.  What is more, there will be pay rises based on time spent, and a promotion track to become a head or deputy head, which will pay in excess of 50k (pounds) a year on average, if you reverse a failing school, that figure can go up to 100k a year (in exceptional cases with bonuses and rewards).  So, why would a person who could progress at home move away to stagnate at 2.2m, and if they are lucky a rise to 2.5m in 5 years?

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2018, 08:47:05 AM »
you want a licensed teacher for 2.2 million a month ? Good luck with that..

A licensed UK primary school teacher starts on 23,000 a year, which is 1,585 quid a month after tax. = 2248639.50 won. 2.2 mil plus 400,000 housing allowance would work out more than that after tax. With a lot less paperwork and hassle.

But you are asking someone to give up all the comforts of home, and fly halfway around the world, enter a new culture, know nobody, and have to learn the language if they want a chance to survive. 

A UK teacher will get 12 weeks of holiday as part of the deal, a pension plan that allows early retirement, and a choice of unions to back them up should trouble arise.  What is more, there will be pay rises based on time spent, and a promotion track to become a head or deputy head, which will pay in excess of 50k (pounds) a year on average, if you reverse a failing school, that figure can go up to 100k a year (in exceptional cases with bonuses and rewards).  So, why would a person who could progress at home move away to stagnate at 2.2m, and if they are lucky a rise to 2.5m in 5 years?

Fair points, though a licensed teacher might want to do it just for a couple of years for the experience. 

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2018, 09:57:48 AM »
you want a licensed teacher for 2.2 million a month ? Good luck with that..

A licensed UK primary school teacher starts on 23,000 a year, which is 1,585 quid a month after tax. = 2248639.50 won. 2.2 mil plus 400,000 housing allowance would work out more than that after tax. With a lot less paperwork and hassle.

But you are asking someone to give up all the comforts of home, and fly halfway around the world, enter a new culture, know nobody, and have to learn the language if they want a chance to survive. 

A UK teacher will get 12 weeks of holiday as part of the deal, a pension plan that allows early retirement, and a choice of unions to back them up should trouble arise.  What is more, there will be pay rises based on time spent, and a promotion track to become a head or deputy head, which will pay in excess of 50k (pounds) a year on average, if you reverse a failing school, that figure can go up to 100k a year (in exceptional cases with bonuses and rewards).  So, why would a person who could progress at home move away to stagnate at 2.2m, and if they are lucky a rise to 2.5m in 5 years?

Fair points, though a licensed teacher might want to do it just for a couple of years for the experience.

Yeah, or  you can take a job for " experience " and still get paid fairly. That is also an option.

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2018, 10:02:47 AM »
you want a licensed teacher for 2.2 million a month ? Good luck with that..

A licensed UK primary school teacher starts on 23,000 a year, which is 1,585 quid a month after tax. = 2248639.50 won. 2.2 mil plus 400,000 housing allowance would work out more than that after tax. With a lot less paperwork and hassle.

But you are asking someone to give up all the comforts of home, and fly halfway around the world, enter a new culture, know nobody, and have to learn the language if they want a chance to survive. 

A UK teacher will get 12 weeks of holiday as part of the deal, a pension plan that allows early retirement, and a choice of unions to back them up should trouble arise.  What is more, there will be pay rises based on time spent, and a promotion track to become a head or deputy head, which will pay in excess of 50k (pounds) a year on average, if you reverse a failing school, that figure can go up to 100k a year (in exceptional cases with bonuses and rewards).  So, why would a person who could progress at home move away to stagnate at 2.2m, and if they are lucky a rise to 2.5m in 5 years?

Fair points, though a licensed teacher might want to do it just for a couple of years for the experience.

Yeah, or  you can take a job for " experience " and still get paid fairly. That is also an option.

Well, if it is they won't get any licensed teachers applying will they.

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2018, 09:12:54 PM »
  Well, if I do apply for this one, I will ask for more than 2.2 million won!
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a licenced teacher might want to do it for a couple of years, just for the experience
  I wonder... might a licenced teacher be doing this as an act of Christian charity, to help out the headmaster? The thing is, that newly-qulified teachers will have student loans to pay off. They are going to want to pay the loans off at a faster rate than this. They will also be looking at ads for proper international schools in Korea, China and elsewhere. Those in China offer 25 000 pounds a year with free accommodation.
  St. Mary's is NOT an international school. In the light of that knowledge it is interesting that they are very keen on North American candidates who are licenced in Canada or the USA. It could be that they want an Americn accent in class. But it might be that they want a licenced teacher to do subject  teaching under an E-2 visa. Subject teachers must apply for an E-7 visa.

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2018, 05:26:00 AM »
Canít knock them for trying. If they can get away with it, they will. We all want a job that pays 5-10mil per month and offers 12 weeks vacation per year...nothing wrong with shooting for the stars  :laugh:

Since this is not an international school (at least not a legitimate one), the lucky new hire would probably be on an an EPIK contract or similar...hence the pay and listed work conditions.

The workload would be heavier compared to other public school jobs though.

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2018, 08:13:32 AM »
you want a licensed teacher for 2.2 million a month ? Good luck with that..

A licensed UK primary school teacher starts on 23,000 a year, which is 1,585 quid a month after tax. = 2248639.50 won. 2.2 mil plus 400,000 housing allowance would work out more than that after tax. With a lot less paperwork and hassle.

But you are asking someone to give up all the comforts of home, and fly halfway around the world, enter a new culture, know nobody, and have to learn the language if they want a chance to survive. 

A UK teacher will get 12 weeks of holiday as part of the deal, a pension plan that allows early retirement, and a choice of unions to back them up should trouble arise.  What is more, there will be pay rises based on time spent, and a promotion track to become a head or deputy head, which will pay in excess of 50k (pounds) a year on average, if you reverse a failing school, that figure can go up to 100k a year (in exceptional cases with bonuses and rewards).  So, why would a person who could progress at home move away to stagnate at 2.2m, and if they are lucky a rise to 2.5m in 5 years?

Fair points, though a licensed teacher might want to do it just for a couple of years for the experience.

Yeah, or  you can take a job for " experience " and still get paid fairly. That is also an option.

Well, if it is they won't get any licensed teachers applying will they.

This kind of attitude drives me up the wall. It's probably also part of the reason why wages haven't increased in the past decade. You know I could probably get one of those homeless people picking up cardboard to come and do my housework for 5,000 won a day. Just because there are people who are willing to work for peanuts doesn't mean that as an employer it is good or moral to pay someone the least amount possible just because you can get away with it. You are implying that if someone accepts work then the pay is fair, but there are situations that people get in within their life that forces them to accept crummy jobs.

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2019, 01:30:41 PM »
you want a licensed teacher for 2.2 million a month ? Good luck with that..

A licensed UK primary school teacher starts on 23,000 a year, which is 1,585 quid a month after tax. = 2248639.50 won. 2.2 mil plus 400,000 housing allowance would work out more than that after tax. With a lot less paperwork and hassle.

But you are asking someone to give up all the comforts of home, and fly halfway around the world, enter a new culture, know nobody, and have to learn the language if they want a chance to survive. 

A UK teacher will get 12 weeks of holiday as part of the deal, a pension plan that allows early retirement, and a choice of unions to back them up should trouble arise.  What is more, there will be pay rises based on time spent, and a promotion track to become a head or deputy head, which will pay in excess of 50k (pounds) a year on average, if you reverse a failing school, that figure can go up to 100k a year (in exceptional cases with bonuses and rewards).  So, why would a person who could progress at home move away to stagnate at 2.2m, and if they are lucky a rise to 2.5m in 5 years?

Fair points, though a licensed teacher might want to do it just for a couple of years for the experience.

Yeah, or  you can take a job for " experience " and still get paid fairly. That is also an option.

Well, if it is they won't get any licensed teachers applying will they.

This kind of attitude drives me up the wall. It's probably also part of the reason why wages haven't increased in the past decade. You know I could probably get one of those homeless people picking up cardboard to come and do my housework for 5,000 won a day. Just because there are people who are willing to work for peanuts doesn't mean that as an employer it is good or moral to pay someone the least amount possible just because you can get away with it. You are implying that if someone accepts work then the pay is fair, but there are situations that people get in within their life that forces them to accept crummy jobs.

In a Capitalist system, your labour is worth what someone is prepared to pay you. If you're talking about morality, why shouldn't the guy picking up cardboard get 2.2 mil a month for cleaning your house? If you feel sorry for someone in a crummy position and want to pay them more, that's great but it's charity. That school is a private business.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2019, 01:32:17 PM by eggieguffer »

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2019, 10:10:42 PM »
Jeez, why is this a debate? Wages and pay have increased due to raised cost of living. Korea's wages are the same as 10 years ago but the cost of living has increased, therefore the wage is too low. Capitalism is a weak excuse, there is still a minimum wage from those countries that INCREASE. School makes a post, teachers comment on the low pay. Being vocal might show them if they want better teachers to apply, then they should offer a better wage.

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2019, 11:19:30 PM »
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Jeez, why is this a debate?


Indeed. If you understand how capitalism works, there's no need. If you don't, It's really too much for me to explain tonight.

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2019, 07:38:15 PM »
Indeed. If you understand how capitalism works, there's no need. If you don't, It's really too much for me to explain tonight.

Well thank goodness we have an expat who's been here since 2011 to patrol waygook and educate those who are inferior to his Supreme intellect. After 8 years your monthly 2.3 salary is well earned.

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2019, 10:14:50 AM »
Jeez, why is this a debate? Wages and pay have increased due to raised cost of living. Korea's wages are the same as 10 years ago but the cost of living has increased, therefore the wage is too low. Capitalism is a weak excuse, there is still a minimum wage from those countries that INCREASE. School makes a post, teachers comment on the low pay. Being vocal might show them if they want better teachers to apply, then they should offer a better wage.

2.2 is not the minimum wage, so there's no government obligation to increase it. People being vocal on here might persuade the school to increase wages, but most businesses fix wages at the level they think they can hire the quality of staff they need. The only certain way of getting them to increase wages, is if they can't get the staff they need. The higher wages in real terms in the past were due to people not wanting to relocate to Korea, so a greater incentive was needed. More people want to come here these days so they haven't needed to increase wages to keep in line with inflation. This is why jobs in countries like Spain or Italy pay as little as 1,000 euros a month. People want to live there. Would people complaining on message boards in those countries get them to raise wages? I doubt it.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2019, 10:17:02 AM by eggieguffer »

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2019, 11:03:42 AM »
People complaining online could in fact positively impact wages ... or at least slow the decline.

On the other hand, asserting the West is terrible and teaching English overseas is a much better career choice could have an opposite effect.

Recruiters only tell the good side.

A more balanced assessment is better.

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2019, 11:12:17 AM »
The higher wages in real terms in the past were due to people not wanting to relocate to Korea, so a greater incentive was needed.

It was mostly due to lack of awareness. Ten years ago, most Americans had never heard of teaching English overseas. And K pop wasn't as popular then. And more young Koreans in the country then, meaning more students. Also, more novelty around native speakers and a more positive (unrealistic) perception they would help students become fluent in English quickly.

Korea has an extremely low birthrate. It has for a while. The median age is now 42.1 and rising. Meaning demand is shrinking. While supply of applicants is rising. 

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2019, 01:30:47 PM »
The higher wages in real terms in the past were due to people not wanting to relocate to Korea, so a greater incentive was needed.

It was mostly due to lack of awareness. Ten years ago, most Americans had never heard of teaching English overseas. And K pop wasn't as popular then. And more young Koreans in the country then, meaning more students. Also, more novelty around native speakers and a more positive (unrealistic) perception they would help students become fluent in English quickly.

Korea has an extremely low birthrate. It has for a while. The median age is now 42.1 and rising. Meaning demand is shrinking. While supply of applicants is rising.

Yes, 15 years ago it would have seemed pretty weird for someone to say something like 'it's always been my dream to teach in Korea.' Now it's fairly common place, coming before some query about whether they shoul apply to EPIK before they even leave college, or how they can increase their chances of getting to Seoul.

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Re: St.Mary's Elementary School looking for English Teacher (March 2019)
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2019, 01:37:53 PM »
yep. and wages stay the same because people are still willing to take the low paying jobs