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Author Topic: Question for those married with F-visas.  (Read 1193 times)

Offline Sagi Keun

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Question for those married with F-visas.
« on: November 30, 2018, 03:28:53 PM »
Hi, I am 39 and plan to marry my Korean fiance next year.

I assume that having an F-visa will open up lots of teaching opportunities.

But will I still be able to get teaching work past the age of 40 in Korea? Any thoughts or experiences?

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2018, 04:02:45 PM »
Hi, I am 39 and plan to marry my Korean fiance next year.

I assume that having an F-visa will open up lots of teaching opportunities.

But will I still be able to get teaching work past the age of 40 in Korea? Any thoughts or experiences?

It all depends what areas you have experience of and what your qualifications are. BAs + online TEFL courses wanting to teach generic kids' classes will find it tougher after 40. With people who are looking to specialise with higher quals  it won't make any difference. 

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2018, 05:17:40 PM »
With people who are looking to specialise with higher quals  it won't make any difference.

I get that having a random MA helps with getting a UNI job. But those are few and far between anyway.

How about scoring tuition? Any probs for someone bald and going grey to amass privates?

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2018, 05:50:21 PM »
it's only crappy kid hagwons (and superficial mums, probably, if you want to teach privates to kids) that care about appearances; if you want to teach adults, there are plenty of opportunities about. have a look on worknplay.co.kr for tonnes of corporate part-time jobs. craigslist too, but it can be hit or miss

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2018, 06:20:50 PM »
With people who are looking to specialise with higher quals  it won't make any difference.

I get that having a random MA helps with getting a UNI job. But those are few and far between anyway.

How about scoring tuition? Any probs for someone bald and going grey to amass privates?

You'll need to speak to someone with those 'afflictions' to find out. Speaking as a teacher with a full head of youthful looking hair :wink:, I'm guessing that what Oglop said is generally true. With adult privates you do get the occasional punter who wants a man or a woman but I've never heard about age discrimination before.

Also it's not only uni jobs. I've had loads of part time and temporary jobs that required specific skills and qualifications.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2018, 06:27:20 PM by eggieguffer »

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2018, 09:06:56 PM »
I know plenty of teachers in their 40s, 50s and a few in their 60s that are doing quite well. More than a few of them are fat, bald and have gray (or white) hair, but they act and dress like professionals, which makes it easy for them to find and keep good opportunities.

Could these same people walk into a job at a kindergarten that prefers to hire people in their early-to-mid 20s? I'm doubtful.

Just as I don't think having an F-visa is a license to print money, though it opens up lots of opportunities, I don't think being 40 and looking like it is a death blow to your career, though getting older does present challenges that you need to address accordingly.

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2018, 02:34:05 AM »
I get that having a random MA helps with getting a UNI job. But those are few and far between anyway.

With a masters and 2 years university teaching experience you'll be eligible to apply. Or a bachelors plus 4 years of university teaching experience.

Those who have that are able to find and keep good opportunities.

Remember to act and dress like a professional.

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2018, 12:35:32 PM »
I get that having a random MA helps with getting a UNI job. But those are few and far between anyway.

With a masters and 2 years university teaching experience you'll be eligible to apply.


I'm British and have been out the country for a few years. So getting a MA at this point would involve massive expenditure, I would have to pay international fees at about 3X what British residents pay. So if I'm going to blow 50M won on a masters degree, it had better be worthwhile. But from what I can see, a MA does not result in any significantly higher level of earning than someone in a hogwon job. I know people with MA's who can't get Uni jobs and work in hogwons.

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2018, 06:49:26 PM »
You could always go down the "study room" route.

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2018, 08:42:27 AM »
 I'm 54 and still working. In the past I've had potential recruiters act really interested when they saw my resume only to never hear back from them when the date of birth kicks in. You need to develope a thick skin and perserverance. As a F6 visa holder you will have access to jobs that will not be available for the masses on E2s. Plus being in country and being able to attend a face to face interview with little notice is an incredible plus.

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2018, 08:50:00 AM »
I'm 54 and still working. In the past I've had potential recruiters act really interested when they saw my resume only to never hear back from them when the date of birth kicks in. You need to develope a thick skin and perserverance. As a F6 visa holder you will have access to jobs that will not be available for the masses on E2s. Plus being in country and being able to attend a face to face interview with little notice is an incredible plus.

That sounds a bit weird. On most people's resumes the date of birth is near the top,  one of the first things people see. How would a recruiter not look at that and be interested in all the other stuff? Or are you saying the recruiter didn't think the DOB was a problem but found out the companies he contacted thought it was? 

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2018, 10:06:44 AM »
I'm 54 and still working. In the past I've had potential recruiters act really interested when they saw my resume only to never hear back from them when the date of birth kicks in. You need to develope a thick skin and perserverance. As a F6 visa holder you will have access to jobs that will not be available for the masses on E2s. Plus being in country and being able to attend a face to face interview with little notice is an incredible plus.

That sounds a bit weird. On most people's resumes the date of birth is near the top,  one of the first things people see. How would a recruiter not look at that and be interested in all the other stuff? Or are you saying the recruiter didn't think the DOB was a problem but found out the companies he contacted thought it was?

I've never put my dob on a resume, nor have I ever seen a resume with one.
In fact there are resume templates that encourage you to eliminate dates and only list the years worked for each job and any degrees/certifications.

But on an application there may be a place for DOB.

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2018, 10:21:04 AM »
I'm 54 and still working. In the past I've had potential recruiters act really interested when they saw my resume only to never hear back from them when the date of birth kicks in. You need to develope a thick skin and perserverance. As a F6 visa holder you will have access to jobs that will not be available for the masses on E2s. Plus being in country and being able to attend a face to face interview with little notice is an incredible plus.

That sounds a bit weird. On most people's resumes the date of birth is near the top,  one of the first things people see. How would a recruiter not look at that and be interested in all the other stuff? Or are you saying the recruiter didn't think the DOB was a problem but found out the companies he contacted thought it was?

I've never put my dob on a resume, nor have I ever seen a resume with one.
In fact there are resume templates that encourage you to eliminate dates and only list the years worked for each job and any degrees/certifications.

But on an application there may be a place for DOB.

Oh really? I've always put it on next to my name.Maybe it's a good move in Korea to avoid wasting time

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2018, 06:15:44 PM »
I'm 54 and still working. In the past I've had potential recruiters act really interested when they saw my resume only to never hear back from them when the date of birth kicks in. You need to develope a thick skin and perserverance. As a F6 visa holder you will have access to jobs that will not be available for the masses on E2s. Plus being in country and being able to attend a face to face interview with little notice is an incredible plus.

That sounds a bit weird. On most people's resumes the date of birth is near the top,  one of the first things people see. How would a recruiter not look at that and be interested in all the other stuff? Or are you saying the recruiter didn't think the DOB was a problem but found out the companies he contacted thought it was?

I've never put my dob on a resume, nor have I ever seen a resume with one.
In fact there are resume templates that encourage you to eliminate dates and only list the years worked for each job and any degrees/certifications.

But on an application there may be a place for DOB.

Oh really? I've always put it on next to my name.Maybe it's a good move in Korea to avoid wasting time

Iím sure it varies by region but yeah itís a big deal in America too. Harder for older workers to get jobs but not nearly as bad as here.

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2018, 08:06:12 PM »
interesting for me, too. never thought twice about putting my DOB on my CV, but after searching about it through google, it looks like it's a practice that's becoming less common in the UK too. hmmm. i mean, i understand why. it's a shame korea is so flippin behind on the times

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2018, 12:42:01 PM »
Just curious, if you are an older teacher but look younger, are reasonably fit, maybe dye the hair, will that hold you back too?  Or are they judging you if you "look old"?

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2018, 12:52:28 PM »
Also you can do corporate gigs with the F Visa and after schools too?  I think E2's have been kicked out of those?

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2018, 01:43:58 PM »
Yeah. After school programs are a shit show though. Good pay, but there's no way I'm doing another year of this

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2018, 07:04:38 PM »
Just curious, if you are an older teacher but look younger, are reasonably fit, maybe dye the hair, will that hold you back too?  Or are they judging you if you "look old"?
I guess I fit your description (including the dyed hair LOL) and, at 61, am still working at a university.   Mandatory retirement at 65 though. Plus I still get other gigs - private, vacation camps.  I think the appearance does help, as well as dressing professionally, plus I present and publish to keep myself up to date with the field as much as I can. 

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Re: Question for those married with F-visas.
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2019, 10:25:35 AM »
Just curious, if you are an older teacher but look younger, are reasonably fit, maybe dye the hair, will that hold you back too?  Or are they judging you if you "look old"?

They look at your birth date and calculate from a Korean cultural prospective. So you are in fact one year older than your actual age. The photo required is a head shot. In color formal dress.