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Is the job market bad right now? Or just me?
« on: November 27, 2018, 01:08:07 PM »
Seems to be so many poor offers coming in. Have a year of experience, and already in Korea but just keep getting shafted, poor offers, poor vacation times, jobs offering not to pay pension etc. after the interview wasting mine and their time. I've been called "picky" by a recruiter for wanting less than 30 hours a week contract (flexible everywhere else), and I've had one try and scam me after finding me a "good job".  Directly looking for jobs has been bad as well, not qualified enough for university so I'm at the whims of hagwons or some needle in the haystack public school.

I think I've found 1 great job so far which I'm applying for - the rest have been okay at best.

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Re: Is the job market bad right now? Or just me?
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2018, 01:41:58 PM »
Just from looking at the "contract review" posts here and on Reddit, yeah it seems abysmal.  Hours and responsibility creeping up and salary offers either staying the same or actually going down. 

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Re: Is the job market bad right now? Or just me?
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2018, 02:09:44 PM »
 The number of applicants outnumbers the actual positions.  China is on the rise. Particularly International schools that are willing to take a chance on someone with just a BA.

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Re: Is the job market bad right now? Or just me?
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2018, 07:49:08 AM »
You are "on the ground" so I'm sure you have an advantage over someone overseas.

However hagwon jobs do typically suck with 2 weeks or some such garbage as your vacation entitlement.

I would have thought some PS jobs should be coming up now with a start after lunar new year?

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Re: Is the job market bad right now? Or just me?
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2018, 01:20:39 PM »
does the job you have now offer you better benefits than the job offers you are receiving?  if so, why not stay at your current school.   

if you are in public school already, you are going to have a difficult time finding a hagwon that can match vacation time and hours worked.  you've been here a year so i'm sure you already know that standard hagwon time off is usually 5 days summer, 5 days winter since the students come all year round. 

is it the salary?  i'm always curious cause i think i've asked this before on this site somewhere about what people feel they are worth.  and like fishead said, the number of applicants outnumber the actual positions.  maybe go to china? i've just seen a lot people come out here and expect to make bank their for doing nothing. 

it's good you are picky though.  at least whatever job you end up at is one that you will hopefully enjoy.   better than accepting an offer that you will hate. 

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Re: Is the job market bad right now? Or just me?
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2018, 02:36:02 PM »
yeah it seems abysmal.  Hours and responsibility creeping up and salary offers either staying the same or actually going down.

The fact that it is so swamped is a reflection on the real unemployment levels in North America.
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Re: Is the job market bad right now? Or just me?
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2018, 06:28:50 PM »
Except it's not swamped, Aurata. 1 in 10,000 Americans came to work in Korea. Do the math and it's way less than that (if we're talking Americans currently on an E-2 visa.) Is that a lot percentage wise? Hell, no. More believe wacky conspiracy theories like you do.

Demand went down. And the minuscule minority in this tiny niche market accepted longer hours meaning less employees are doing the work of what in the past was a greater number of workers, thereby reducing the number of job openings.

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Re: Is the job market bad right now? Or just me?
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2018, 05:48:07 AM »
Could be a poor moment as things fluctuate, but my first response was that it is you and everyone else who thinks the better days are in the past.

Since I started teaching in 2004 I have always seen teachers who think things aren't as good as it used to be. I saw that everywhere I taught and not just in Korea.

Sure there are fewer public school jobs like they say, but...

I think it's a human thing - nostalgia.

Just keep looking. I thought or wondered that at times. If you miss a good job then another one will come around, but good jobs or the exceptional ones are rare.

You can try different searches like:

teach english in korea 2-8pm
teach english in korea work 12-5pm
teach english in korea work 9-4pm

I have seen job ads from schools with all of these hours which are less than average. You can look for a part time job that will give you a visa - not common but possible. koreabridge.net or maybe here.

The second query above was for public after school positions. Not sure if they are still going or not.

There are hagwons out there for less than 30. I worked in one for about 26 hours a week on average.

Lastly if you can't find anything then maybe consider moving. Korea tends to have longer work and teaching hours than other countries.


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Re: Is the job market bad right now? Or just me?
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2018, 06:42:38 PM »
An American who has lived in South Korea for 20 years was arrested for robbing a lottery shop in Busan, police said Thursday.

According to Haeundae Police Station, the U.S. citizen, 63, entered the shop near Haeundae beach masked on Wednesday night, assaulted its manager and got away with bundles of cash (510,000 won, or $451).

The manager followed him shouting for help. The American was caught after police shot him with a stun gun.

He reportedly told police he had committed the crime "for money." According to police, the American entered the country in 1988 and taught English until 2011. He is jobless.


http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2018/12/251_260687.html

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Re: Is the job market bad right now? Or just me?
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2018, 10:31:15 AM »
wouldve been nice if the article mentioned what kind of visa he is on since he is jobless.  im not sure but even if he is an f visa, he would still have to show immigration that he has income coming in right? 

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Re: Is the job market bad right now? Or just me?
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2018, 11:37:18 AM »
 Another sad story of what happens if you have no exit plan. He must have come when things were really good. He might have even had a nice gig at a University. He should have gone to China or even Vietnam

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Re: Is the job market bad right now? Or just me?
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2018, 01:08:43 PM »
Another sad story of what happens if you have no exit plan. He must have come when things were really good. He might have even had a nice gig at a University. He should have gone to China or even Vietnam

If he's been here since 88 he should have enough to retire on by now.