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Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« on: November 09, 2018, 11:30:15 AM »


I saw the unedited video. A student aggressively threw a basketball at the teacher and called him the n word a bunch of times. Then the student got his ass kicked by the 64 year old teacher who probably was about a half a century older. Good riddance.

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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2018, 11:32:18 AM »
another one!

and good riddance to who?

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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2018, 11:52:22 AM »
Foreverparadise finally snapped?  The signs were there.

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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2018, 02:30:58 PM »
The unedited video (NSFW) is available on Liveleak.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=aqKLH_1541634848

Those talking about the racial slurs should realise that both the teacher and the kid were black. The kid was being really trashy though and definitely deserved a punch in the face, but the way the teacher suddenly punched him suggested a genuine loss of control.

Apparently the teacher has had other incidents in the past.

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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2018, 02:44:25 PM »
Foreverparadise finally snapped?  The signs were there.

LMAO. Defo worth the ban imho.
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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2018, 03:06:55 PM »
Apparently the teacher has had other incidents in the past.

Ah yes blame the teacher, not the system..


This kind of craziness is the result of withdrawing CP.

It would just never happen in a school with CP.


But if Americans are absolutely determined to destroy their education system based on failed liberal ideology, then so be it. Watch it escalate to knife stabbings, murders, shootings, gangs in schools.. oh wait it already has.


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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2018, 03:16:19 PM »
After watching the full video, it's hard to feel bad for the student.

On the one hand, it's absolutely never ok to hit a student.

On the other, that kid had it coming. Because clearly his parents weren't doing it.
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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2018, 03:22:08 PM »
Apparently the teacher has had other incidents in the past.

Ah yes blame the teacher, not the system..


This kind of craziness is the result of withdrawing CP.

It would just never happen in a school with CP.


But if Americans are absolutely determined to destroy their education system based on failed liberal ideology, then so be it. Watch it escalate to knife stabbings, murders, shootings, gangs in schools.. oh wait it already has.


https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/06/health/youth-knife-crime-stabbings-study-london-intl/index.html

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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2018, 03:28:19 PM »
Yeah, I agree with some of the posters here, it's hard to feel bad for the kid.

It's like when an idiot passes too dangerously, or runs across a highway and gets creamed;

-Do I think they deserved it? No.

-Am I surprised that it happened? Even less so.

You chuck a basketball at your teacher with force and call him out (they're both black, sure, but I'll hazard a guess and say that most black people don't want to be called that, regardless of who's saying it), don't assume you'll walk away unscathed.

It's like the videos where a woman slaps a guy real hard across the face and then he punches her right in the nose and she has this look like,

"OMG, I can't believe he hit me. HE HIT ME."

Like, shut up, you can believe it.
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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2018, 04:46:06 PM »
Apparently the teacher has had other incidents in the past.

Ah yes blame the teacher, not the system..


This kind of craziness is the result of withdrawing CP.

It would just never happen in a school with CP.


But if Americans are absolutely determined to destroy their education system based on failed liberal ideology, then so be it. Watch it escalate to knife stabbings, murders, shootings, gangs in schools.. oh wait it already has.


https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/06/health/youth-knife-crime-stabbings-study-london-intl/index.html

Yeah its sad what western civilization is coming to. And a lot of the problems begin because parents and teachers have relinquished their authority over the young generation. They have abandoned all discipline and are reaping the reward in their disintegrating societies.


On the one hand, it's absolutely never ok to hit a student.

On the other, that kid had it coming. Because clearly his parents weren't doing it.

Contradictory post. First you say its wrong to hit a kid then you recommend that his parents should?
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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2018, 06:22:47 PM »
Apparently the teacher has had other incidents in the past.

Ah yes blame the teacher, not the system..


This kind of craziness is the result of withdrawing CP.

It would just never happen in a school with CP.


But if Americans are absolutely determined to destroy their education system based on failed liberal ideology, then so be it. Watch it escalate to knife stabbings, murders, shootings, gangs in schools.. oh wait it already has.

I'm in favour of controlled corporal punishment, but that guy lost his temper. I don't think he's a bad guy for doing so, but he showed weakness rather than strength. Schools really should have a third party, a head of discipline, for hitting students like that with a stick in a controlled and unemotional manner.

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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2018, 08:24:14 PM »
I'm in favour of controlled corporal punishment,  Schools really should have a third party, a head of discipline, for hitting students like that with a stick in a controlled and unemotional manner.

Good. Its nice to know there are still people out there who favour CP and upholding civilization.

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but that guy lost his temper. I don't think he's a bad guy for doing so, but he showed weakness rather than strength.

I agree he lost his temper. But..., teachers who know they have effective disciplinary options do not lose their temper.

CP is the only effective deterrent against extremes of bad behaviour in schools.


Teachers running amok is symptomatic of a broken system that has put the teacher in an impossible situation.


If he'd sent the boy for counselling (or whatever other utterly ineffective measure schools nowadays offer), the effect would be the same as if he'd done nothing. The troublemaker would've become the alpha and owned that class from then on, winning followers and steadily turning the class against him.

Catch my drift?

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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2018, 08:27:06 PM »
Yeah, I agree with some of the posters here, it's hard to feel bad for the kid.

It's like when an idiot passes too dangerously, or runs across a highway and gets creamed;

-Do I think they deserved it? No.

-Am I surprised that it happened? Even less so.

You chuck a basketball at your teacher with force and call him out (they're both black, sure, but I'll hazard a guess and say that most black people don't want to be called that, regardless of who's saying it), don't assume you'll walk away unscathed.

It's like the videos where a woman slaps a guy real hard across the face and then he punches her right in the nose and she has this look like,

"OMG, I can't believe he hit me. HE HIT ME."

Like, shut up, you can believe it.

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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2018, 09:24:49 PM »


This video shows the run-up to the incident and what caused it.
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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2018, 09:46:41 PM »


This video shows the run-up to the incident and what caused it.

I watched the video, and the man was a model of restraint....until he threw that first (of his) punch(es).  That one could be called "justified", maybe the next few too.  But, there is a moment in the fight where they are separated, and help had arrived.  It could have ended there.  But, he went after the little bugger again, and THAT is where the "i just snapped" excuse may fall down.  He had given the fooker a beating, but the "seconds" was personal.  1 or 2 punches is self defense, 5 is excessive force.


Don't get me wrong, the teacher did the kid a favour.  On the street, someone would have pulled a gun long before, and that kids would have been a footnote in a newspaper. 

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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2018, 09:54:10 PM »
Foreverparadise finally snapped?  The signs were there.

Yeah, I would love to use a belt across that kids behind.

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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2018, 10:01:10 PM »
I will tell you as a black man and as a music teacher that I am in support of Mr. Riley. No, I do not condone punching a student but on the other hand, that little punk got what he deserved because he has no discipline from his home.
This is the kind of crap I have to deal with teaching on the reservation where I teach. Too many kids are growing up into defiant punks because of useless parents who bring them into the world and let them get away with crap. If we teachers are not allowed to lay a hand on them or cannot send them to the office because the principal is overworked, perhaps we might as well have some military trained security personnel in the school or some real tough disciplinarian specialist deal with these rotten kids.

And besides, I am willing to use my belt on any kids who disrespects me, not in the school but somewhere else.

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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2018, 10:31:35 PM »
I will tell you as a black man and as a music teacher that I am in support of Mr. Riley. No, I do not condone punching a student but on the other hand, that little punk got what he deserved because he has no discipline from his home.
This is the kind of crap I have to deal with teaching on the reservation where I teach. Too many kids are growing up into defiant punks because of useless parents who bring them into the world and let them get away with crap. If we teachers are not allowed to lay a hand on them or cannot send them to the office because the principal is overworked, perhaps we might as well have some military trained security personnel in the school or some real tough disciplinarian specialist deal with these rotten kids.

And besides, I am willing to use my belt on any kids who disrespects me, not in the school but somewhere else.

I don't agree with you on a lot, but you are certainly one of the more interesting characters in this place.
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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2018, 10:50:52 PM »
This is the kind of crap I have to deal with teaching on the reservation where I teach. Too many kids are growing up into defiant punks because of useless parents who bring them into the world and let them get away with crap.

The parents have been disallowed from disciplining their kids, is part of the problem.

I mean it is illegal for parents to spank their own kids now so it is no surprise we have arrived at the situation we're at.
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Re: Students Defend Music Teacher Arrested For Classroom Fight
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2018, 11:02:29 PM »
The unedited video (NSFW) is available on Liveleak.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=aqKLH_1541634848

Those talking about the racial slurs should realise that both the teacher and the kid were black. The kid was being really trashy though and definitely deserved a punch in the face, but the way the teacher suddenly punched him suggested a genuine loss of control.

Apparently the teacher has had other incidents in the past.
I thought the student was Hispanic.

"A Black band teacher-Marston Riley was arrested after he defended himself from a hispanic student who hit him with a basketball,called him multiple epithets, & continued to threaten him."
https://atlantablackstar.com/2018/11/06/la-community-comes-together-to-raise-84k-and-counting-for-band-teacher-who-punched-unruly-student/