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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2018, 06:48:06 PM »

Stop Muslims - Fook off racist moron!


Islam is not a race. People of every colour and ethnicity are welcome in Islam.

You racist moron.

I never claimed Islam was a race, but those who are against Muslims are usually against those from Pakistan, or other Southern Asian nations, and therefeore racist.  I may have lost you by skipping a step.  Let me know if you are having a difficult time keeping up, and i will join the dots for you.

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« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2018, 07:04:59 PM »
There's a small cabal of American hard-right conservatives on waygook. They must hate living in a country with public health care coverage and no guns. They probably treat any illness they have by self-medicating with Gatorade and ginseng drinks while ranting about "the tree of liberty."
Funny, I seem to gripe about this place a lot less than you and most of the vocal left posters, who seem to be among some of the most consistently negative posters, often saying questionable things about Koreans, one of the few things you share in common with a few of the hard-right types. Two sides of the same coin.

Must be nice to live in a nearly gun-free society while your "views" make Americans die every day.
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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #22 on: October 30, 2018, 07:14:08 PM »

Stop Muslims - Fook off racist moron!


Islam is not a race. People of every colour and ethnicity are welcome in Islam.

You racist moron.

I never claimed Islam was a race, but those who are against Muslims are usually against those from Pakistan, or other Southern Asian nations, and therefeore racist.  I may have lost you by skipping a step.  Let me know if you are having a difficult time keeping up, and i will join the dots for you.

That's not actually true, the British population who are 'against Muslims' as you put it are usually fine with Indian Hindus and Sikhs. Generally they're not in favour of poorly educated Pakistani Muslims bringing over their culture of child brides, honour killings/acid throwing, child rape gangs, and FGM to the UK, in disproportionate numbers to people from other countries. British people just being anti brown people coming to the UK because they're brown mostly went out of fashion around the same time as Alf Garnet.
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« Reply #23 on: October 31, 2018, 10:40:47 AM »
There's a small cabal of American hard-right conservatives on waygook. They must hate living in a country with public health care coverage and no guns. They probably treat any illness they have by self-medicating with Gatorade and ginseng drinks while ranting about "the tree of liberty."
Funny, I seem to gripe about this place a lot less than you and most of the vocal left posters, who seem to be among some of the most consistently negative posters, often saying questionable things about Koreans, one of the few things you share in common with a few of the hard-right types. Two sides of the same coin.

Must be nice to live in a nearly gun-free society while your "views" make Americans die every day.

What makes a person decide to shoot someone is that person's own decisions. Legalized concealed carry holders, AR-15 owners, and hunters are not the source of most gun crime. The three biggest sources are suicide (how someone offs themself is up to them, though gunshot is rude), domestic violence, and drug-relayed crime.

Now if you want to talk about Republican/Clintonite Drug War policies being a contributor, I'd be the first to agree..

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Re: Waygook's Unofficial 2nd Brexit Vote (The People's Vote)
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2018, 12:58:53 PM »
I never claimed Islam was a race, but those who are against Muslims are usually against those from Pakistan

If you say so.

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« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2018, 08:00:46 PM »
May, should allow a second vote, now that the real implications of Brexit are known.

You've been softened up by months of media propaganda. That was the plan.

Brexit caused a panic among the globalists. Their immediate reaction was to slow down the whole process to give them time to change peoples minds.

First thing they did was punish the pound, make all kinds of threats about the sky falling on your head, and keep jerking May around like a hapless ragdoll.

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The xenophobic arguments make me ashamed

...then you're a sucker for their manipulation.

They want a weak cowering Britain under their control, locked into a totally undemocratic dictatorship while they send in their liquidators to asset-strip the country.


Don't worry, your worst brexit fears will never be realized. Britain will be healthier once they extricate themselves from the EU central bankers.

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“What you do see is that the dream towards the multi-state entity that truly subsumes the concept of sates underneath it is really going to start dissipating and we are seeing it break down.

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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2018, 08:53:37 PM »
Brexit caused a panic among the globalists.

Globalists? As opposed to nationalists?  Thanks, I'll take the former.

First thing they did was punish the pound,

Who punished the pound?  The pound floats freely on currency markets. The reason the pound
cratered was because everyone involved foresaw a major catastrophe heading straight for the UK.

They want a weak cowering Britain under their control,

Again, who?  Trade between the EU and UK is huge.  Cooperation between the UK and the EU
spans everything from snack foods to fusion power.

Britain will be healthier once they extricate themselves from the EU central bankers.

London is the banking centre of Europe.  What are you talking about?  Major global bankers
are already making exit plans from London to other European centres.  Financial products are
also subject to trade barriers.

It will be dark times ahead for the UK.

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« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2018, 07:51:53 AM »
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Oh hey, welcome back from your summer-long hiatus, Aurata!

When are you finally gonna get the internet installed at your dacha?  :laugh:

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« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2018, 08:05:57 AM »
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Oh hey, welcome back from your summer-long hiatus, Aurata!

When are you finally gonna get the internet installed at your dacha?  :laugh:

Putin's unleashed him again to Waygook after his tenure at trolling the 2018 Midterms.

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« Reply #29 on: November 20, 2018, 08:11:29 AM »
When are you finally gonna get the internet installed at your dacha?  :laugh:

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« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2018, 09:17:09 PM »
Globalists? As opposed to nationalists?  Thanks, I'll take the former.

Britain used to be fond of its liberty. Your forefathers died to keep Britain sovereign. But a little media propaganda and you're ready to hand your country over to German bankers?

EU and NATO were created by Washington in order to destroy the sovereignty of European nations and bring them under their umbrella. Washington regards every assertion of independence as a challenge to its hegemony.

Fortunately there are or were, just enough Brits who realized that the EU is a dictatorship run by unelected  elites. It is totally against the idea of accountable rulers, law as a shield of the people rather than a weapon of the state, and democracy as produced and founded by the British people and transplanted to the world.

 
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Who punished the pound?  The pound floats freely on currency markets. The reason the pound
cratered was because everyone involved foresaw a major catastrophe heading straight for the UK.

The federal reserve, the European Central bank, the bank of Japan, George soros. Conspired to attack the pound and the British economy.. and terrorize the British people into submission.

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It will be dark times ahead for the UK.

You're easily cowed, aren't you. But this is a result of Theresa May allowing Britain to be tricked into a long and drawn-out exit. The longer it takes for UK to extricate themselves from Brussels, the more time the press (owned by the elites) have to convince Brits that they made a mistake; the more Washington and the EU have to punish the brits for voting to leave.

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London is the banking centre of Europe.  What are you talking about?  Major global bankers
are already making exit plans from London to other European centres.


Thats just a threat to try and intimidate the Brits.

In case you didn't realize, the City of London is an independent institution with its own laws separate from the UK. There is no reason why major global bankers would leave, its their headquarters!! and they can make any rule to fit their needs and harness investment. The city of london dominates the globe through its financial mechanisms. The British empire gave up geographic territory but not influence!


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« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2018, 04:39:27 AM »
George soros. Conspired to attack the pound and the British economy.. and terrorize the British people into submission.

He, along with other speculators, shorted it to make money. Which worked.

The British pound shadowed the German mark leading up to the 1990s, even though the two countries were very different economically. Germany was the stronger country, despite lingering difficulties from reunification, but the U.K. wanted to keep the value of the pound above 2.7 marks. Attempts to adhere to this standard left Britain with high interest rates and equally high inflation, but it demanded a fixed rate of 2.7 marks to a pound as a condition of entering the European Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM).

Many speculators, George Soros chief among them, wondered how long fixed exchange rates could fight market forces, and they began to take up short positions against the pound. Soros borrowed heavily to bet more on a drop in the pound. The U.K. raised its interest rates to double digits to try to attract investors. The government was hoping to alleviate the selling pressure by creating more buying pressure.

Paying out interest costs money, however, and the British government realized that it would lose billions trying to artificially prop up the pound. It withdrew from the ERM and the value of the pound plummeted against the mark. Soros made at least $1 billion off this one trade. For the British government's part, the devaluation of the pound actually helped, as it forced the excess interest and inflation out of the economy, making it an ideal environment for businesses.


https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/08/greatest-currency-trades.asp

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« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2018, 04:53:42 AM »
the EU is a dictatorship

Globalism / NATO / the EU is countries cooperating to uplift the world.

Nationalism / isolationism / authoritarianism comes from the Britain first / America first / Russia first / North Korea first / Canada first / South Korea first / Brazil first / etc. mindset. Tribalism is stupid.


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« Reply #33 on: November 27, 2018, 09:49:43 AM »
Globalists? As opposed to nationalists?  Thanks, I'll take the former.

Britain used to be fond of its liberty. Your forefathers died to keep Britain sovereign. But a little media propaganda and you're ready to hand your country over to German bankers?

EU and NATO were created by Washington in order to destroy the sovereignty of European nations and bring them under their umbrella. Washington regards every assertion of independence as a challenge to its hegemony.

Fortunately there are or were, just enough Brits who realized that the EU is a dictatorship run by unelected  elites. It is totally against the idea of accountable rulers, law as a shield of the people rather than a weapon of the state, and democracy as produced and founded by the British people and transplanted to the world.

 
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Who punished the pound?  The pound floats freely on currency markets. The reason the pound
cratered was because everyone involved foresaw a major catastrophe heading straight for the UK.

The federal reserve, the European Central bank, the bank of Japan, George soros. Conspired to attack the pound and the British economy.. and terrorize the British people into submission.

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It will be dark times ahead for the UK.

You're easily cowed, aren't you. But this is a result of Theresa May allowing Britain to be tricked into a long and drawn-out exit. The longer it takes for UK to extricate themselves from Brussels, the more time the press (owned by the elites) have to convince Brits that they made a mistake; the more Washington and the EU have to punish the brits for voting to leave.

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London is the banking centre of Europe.  What are you talking about?  Major global bankers
are already making exit plans from London to other European centres.


Thats just a threat to try and intimidate the Brits.

In case you didn't realize, the City of London is an independent institution with its own laws separate from the UK. There is no reason why major global bankers would leave, its their headquarters!! and they can make any rule to fit their needs and harness investment. The city of london dominates the globe through its financial mechanisms. The British empire gave up geographic territory but not influence!

  I tend to agree with your analysis: I have posited my own similar thoughts on other websites...

 The general level of 'head-in-the-sand' responses on this topic by some commentators seems to indicate that the dumbing-down process that had been instituted in our school systems a few decades ago (and sees its most recent manifestation in the overabundance of Snowflakes, triggered weaklings, SJWs, and Globalist shills) is bearing some disturbingly noxious and worrisome fruit...!

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« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2018, 10:23:28 AM »
Globalism / NATO / the EU is countries cooperating to uplift the world.
How does the EU uplift with the world with its labyrinthine style of government? One can have a common market and mutual cooperation without the bureaucratic boondoggle that is the EU. You seriously aren't bothered by an organization that has people hold a referendum on it, and then when they don't get the result they like, tell them to hold another election and this time get it right?

Also, globalism is a tool. It is neither good, nor evil. It can uplift or destroy depending on how it is used.

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Nationalism / isolationism / authoritarianism comes from the Britain first / America first / Russia first / North Korea first / Canada first / South Korea first / Brazil first / etc. mindset. Tribalism is stupid.

Better isolationist than rampaging around the globe and drone striking civilians.

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« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2018, 10:30:20 AM »
Brexit is a disaster.

Just look at all the Brexiteers who bailed on the negotiations because they knew they couldn't get what they promised. Now, they just leer and snipe on the sidelines about how PM May is doing a bad job.

They thought they could just roll up to the EU and tell them "Britain wants.....", and expected the EU would just roll over and agree to their proposals.

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« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2018, 10:44:38 AM »
The problem is May. You can't have someone doing the negotiations who doesn't believe in it and has shown little negotiation skill.

Saying Brexit is a bad idea based on these negotiations is like saying Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is a bad martial art because you're watching Butterbean use it against Jon Jones.

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« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2018, 11:00:55 AM »
The problem is May. You can't have someone doing the negotiations who doesn't believe in it and has shown little negotiation skill.

Saying Brexit is a bad idea based on these negotiations is like saying Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is a bad martial art because you're watching Butterbean use it against Jon Jones.

She's doing the negotiations because no-one on the Tory Brexit side could do it. They tried and failed and then criticized the process.

You're right! She doesn't want to do it but she's doing her best to get something to Britain's benefit. That's me praising her even though I despise the Tories. She's the only conservative out there with the backbone to see the negotiations through.

The negotiating skills like...who? Who among the conservatives showed an appetite to negotiate with the EU?

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« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2018, 11:01:59 AM »
The problem is May. You can't have someone doing the negotiations who doesn't believe in it and has shown little negotiation skill.

Saying Brexit is a bad idea based on these negotiations is like saying Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is a bad martial art because you're watching Butterbean use it against Jon Jones.  But were promised (insert the greatest jiu-jitsu fighter of all time) would be fighting, and all advertising and promotion of the fight featured said guy.

FIFY

There should be criminal conviction due to the fraudulent promises made during the campaign.

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« Reply #39 on: November 27, 2018, 02:46:59 PM »
The problem is May. You can't have someone doing the negotiations who doesn't believe in it and has shown little negotiation skill.

Saying Brexit is a bad idea based on these negotiations is like saying Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is a bad martial art because you're watching Butterbean use it against Jon Jones.
haha. butterbean. reminds me of K1, which i used to thoroughly enjoy as a kid. seems to have gone out of fashion these days sadly, perhaps because of the rise of UFC(?)