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Re: What is it like living in Gangnam? (Potential public school job)
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2018, 12:20:18 PM »
Many places in Gangnam now don't do deposits, or a minimal deposit (maybe 2-3 months of rent), for higher rents. I think your housing situation would be at least as good as it would be living in a one-room chosen for you by someone else.

You don't have to live in Gangnam if you work there. You could, for example, live in HBC, where you could rent a two-bedroom apartment for as little as 600-700k a month and a deposit of 3-5 million.

I was told it was 24 teaching hours a week.  And they do a 900k housing allowance only.  I was looking on craigslist, and saw rooms that only require a 1mil won deposit, so that's doable.  I wouldn't mind commuting by bike to Gangnam.
My fear was having spoiled brats as students, all the korean restaurants being overpriced (went to a cheap samgyeopsal place, was over 20k a person), and no real personality to the area.  I'm just not into the rich and image based lifestyle I saw when visiting there.  But a few people here have told me it's quite nice.  I'll know more on Monday.       

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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2018, 12:24:53 PM »
Isn't it a lot like Psy's music video about the style of gangnam? :P

Pretty much; except there aren't any horses. Gwacheon is close, though!

The trips to the horses lost something when they ditched the 'foreigner area' upstairs about 6 years ago.  I liked sitting there and losing my money, now I have to sit elsewhere and lose money.   :sad:

As of at least a couple months ago, there is an upstairs foreigner area.  I know because sat up there and lost my money!  :laugh:

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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2018, 01:02:18 PM »
Will your school or someone from the education office help you find a place through the budongsan?  I know there is the jikbang and other apps.  Not sure how fake or real they are or if some do bait and switch? 

https://zigbang.com/


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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2018, 01:12:20 PM »
I don't think there's any support from the school or education office for that. I found my current place on Zigbang and the one before that on its competitor Dabang. It may be better to see them as introductions to real estate agents, though the last time I looked, they were pretty good about actually showing the places I asked for. It might be worse in Gangnam, as I remember looking in Gangnam and not having any of the places I looked at actually be available.

With even a little bit of savings for a deposit, you can make 900,000 won a month go quite far, certainly as good as the random places most schools must find their teachers. Check out Eden Realty, for example (http://edenrealty.co.kr/), which tends to have a lot in the way of size, less so in the way of quality, but it'll give you an idea of the types of things you can do with 900,000 won.

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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2018, 01:17:47 PM »
I am wondering about this myself? 

I wonder if some rental agents and building owners would refuse to rent unless you had a Korean ajossi go with you.

It seems what I have found for a 5 to 10 or even 20 million deposit if you don't mind an older place that has had some renovation to it, you can find places within the 900 k allowance?  I just wonder what those working for SMOE do?  They only get 500 K?  Given the prices of Seoul, it seems too low. 

https://www.zigbang.com/search/map?lat=37.50081&lng=127.0369&zoom=4&GGKW=google

Just out of curiosity?  You apply to their education office directly?  I assume this is mostly for experienced teachers?  This also has lots of middle and high schools?

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« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2018, 01:19:55 PM »
Will your school or someone from the education office help you find a place through the budongsan?  I know there is the jikbang and other apps.  Not sure how fake or real they are or if some do bait and switch? 

https://zigbang.com/

I had a Korean friend tell me that lots of the properties posted on those apps are bait and switch situations; however, I've also had multiple people tell me that they found their place through one of those apps.

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« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2018, 01:33:18 PM »
I wonder if some rental agents and building owners would refuse to rent unless you had a Korean ajossi go with you.

This might have been the case several years ago, and I've loosely heard of this, but I've never had this happen. I'm dark-skinned and I've looked at dozens of apartments. Most places I've looked at haven't had the landlord present. I don't think many of my landlords had any idea what I looked like. Real estate agents, like recruiters, just want to get paid. That said, I'm in my 30s and speak Korean.

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It seems what I have found for a 5 to 10 or even 20 million deposit if you don't mind an older place that has had some renovation to it, you can find places within the 900 k allowance?  I just wonder what those working for SMOE do?  They only get 500 K?  Given the prices of Seoul, it seems too low.
 

https://www.zigbang.com/search/map?lat=37.50081&lng=127.0369&zoom=4&GGKW=google

The SMOE housing allowance is on the low side and you'd probably need about a 10 million deposit to get a standard  one-room, but the jump from 500 to 900 allows for a lot more options, particularly as landlords increasingly prefer monthly rent to larger deposits.

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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2018, 01:39:58 PM »
Note: 'housing allowance' is just 'salary' taxed differently. You can spend as much or as little of your salary as you want on housing, whether it be more or less than 900k won. Even in Gangnam, if you're spending 900k a month for a modest one room, you're spending too much.

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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2018, 04:56:58 PM »
Will your school or someone from the education office help you find a place through the budongsan?  I know there is the jikbang and other apps.  Not sure how fake or real they are or if some do bait and switch? 

https://zigbang.com/

I applied directly to the Gangam District Office from an ad on Daves ESL.  They were looking for Elementary and Middle School teachers.  They could be still looking for middle school.
And I'm on my own as far as housing goes...I saw a realtor who helps English teachers find apts on craigslist...and that's about it as far as apt hunting.  I'll def check out the other sites.   

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« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2018, 03:01:38 PM »
Hey I had my Job interview on Monday, and am supposed to know if I get the job next week. 
So if I get it I'll check out zigbang.com and edenrealty.co.kr for housing in Seoul.  Thanks for the help, will give an update next week.   

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« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2018, 03:45:40 PM »
Will your school or someone from the education office help you find a place through the budongsan?  I know there is the jikbang and other apps.  Not sure how fake or real they are or if some do bait and switch? 

https://zigbang.com/
talking to multiple people who work at real estate agents, about half are real, and half are fake. the workers admit they put fake ones up, but they say they have to because 'everyone else does'. don't even bother with this website

so, i'd recommend simply going into a real estate agents where they speak english, tell them what you want, and they'll drive you around the same day if there's anything available. most places come up last minute (and also go very quickly) so you should be fine

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« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2018, 03:59:54 PM »


talking to multiple people who work at real estate agents, about half are real, and half are fake. the workers admit they put fake ones up, but they say they have to because 'everyone else does'. don't even bother with this website

so, i'd recommend simply going into a real estate agents where they speak english, tell them what you want, and they'll drive you around the same day if there's anything available. most places come up last minute (and also go very quickly) so you should be fine

Gotcha.  Thank you

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« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2018, 08:23:35 AM »


talking to multiple people who work at real estate agents, about half are real, and half are fake. the workers admit they put fake ones up, but they say they have to because 'everyone else does'. don't even bother with this website

so, i'd recommend simply going into a real estate agents where they speak english, tell them what you want, and they'll drive you around the same day if there's anything available. most places come up last minute (and also go very quickly) so you should be fine


On the one hand you'll have to use your better judgement and have a little luck to figure out what's real and what's fake on zigbang (usually whatever is too good to be true, is. Bad photos usually means real apartment). On the other hand when a realtor has you in person they can hold you hostage and wear you down by showing you all their worst apartments until you're worn down enough to sign a lease on any piece of crap. Unfortunately realtors here aren't famed for their scruples and as a non-Korean they will probably 'see you coming'. Saying that, Gangnam is a high-demand area with very high rents so there may genuinely be no real good value places.

I've twice had luck finding the exact apartment I want online and visiting the realtor in person with the advert in hand but this was in Incheon. Various realtors I visited with details of what I wanted but no exact property proceeded to show me some real dogsh*t apartments that weren't even close to what I was looking for.

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« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2018, 11:04:11 AM »


talking to multiple people who work at real estate agents, about half are real, and half are fake. the workers admit they put fake ones up, but they say they have to because 'everyone else does'. don't even bother with this website

so, i'd recommend simply going into a real estate agents where they speak english, tell them what you want, and they'll drive you around the same day if there's anything available. most places come up last minute (and also go very quickly) so you should be fine


On the one hand you'll have to use your better judgement and have a little luck to figure out what's real and what's fake on zigbang (usually whatever is too good to be true, is. Bad photos usually means real apartment). On the other hand when a realtor has you in person they can hold you hostage and wear you down by showing you all their worst apartments until you're worn down enough to sign a lease on any piece of crap. Unfortunately realtors here aren't famed for their scruples and as a non-Korean they will probably 'see you coming'. Saying that, Gangnam is a high-demand area with very high rents so there may genuinely be no real good value places.

I've twice had luck finding the exact apartment I want online and visiting the realtor in person with the advert in hand but this was in Incheon. Various realtors I visited with details of what I wanted but no exact property proceeded to show me some real dogsh*t apartments that weren't even close to what I was looking for.
they usually use real photos, but of a place that is no longer available, or in a different location

yeah, it's possible they'll show you the shit apartments first. in my (limited, admittedly) experience, the places that have older workers will try and rip you off and show you shit places, but the places with the younger guys are generally more helpful and honest

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« Reply #34 on: July 18, 2018, 12:28:36 PM »


talking to multiple people who work at real estate agents, about half are real, and half are fake. the workers admit they put fake ones up, but they say they have to because 'everyone else does'. don't even bother with this website

so, i'd recommend simply going into a real estate agents where they speak english, tell them what you want, and they'll drive you around the same day if there's anything available. most places come up last minute (and also go very quickly) so you should be fine


On the one hand you'll have to use your better judgement and have a little luck to figure out what's real and what's fake on zigbang (usually whatever is too good to be true, is. Bad photos usually means real apartment). On the other hand when a realtor has you in person they can hold you hostage and wear you down by showing you all their worst apartments until you're worn down enough to sign a lease on any piece of crap. Unfortunately realtors here aren't famed for their scruples and as a non-Korean they will probably 'see you coming'. Saying that, Gangnam is a high-demand area with very high rents so there may genuinely be no real good value places.

I've twice had luck finding the exact apartment I want online and visiting the realtor in person with the advert in hand but this was in Incheon. Various realtors I visited with details of what I wanted but no exact property proceeded to show me some real dogsh*t apartments that weren't even close to what I was looking for.
they usually use real photos, but of a place that is no longer available, or in a different location

yeah, it's possible they'll show you the shit apartments first. in my (limited, admittedly) experience, the places that have older workers will try and rip you off and show you shit places, but the places with the younger guys are generally more helpful and honest
My experience too.

They will show you 3 places that don't work (I.e. "I said at least 2 bedrooms!"), one that's out of you budget, and one that is "OK".

The one that is OK miraculously is exactly what you said you are willing to spend, and has been vacant for months.

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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2018, 10:48:45 AM »
Hey, so I got the job for the Gangnam public elementary school, working very close to Seolleung Station in
Yeoksam-dong. 

  I found a realtor off craigslist named Sean Kim who says he can find me an apt in the area 800k deposit, 800k month.  Anyone have experience with him?  zigbang doesn't have much nearby.

Any other realtors or websites recommended?