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US Birth Rate Hits All-Time Low: What's Behind the Decline?
By Rachael Rettner, Senior Writer | May 17, 2018 07:11am ET

The number of babies being born in the United States continues to fall, with the birth rate reaching a new record low in 2017, according to a new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"People feel just really uncertain about the future," Guzzo told Live Science. "And that generally does not bode well for having kids."

In addition, young adults may feel like they haven't met all the milestones they feel they need to reach before having a kid
https://www.livescience.com/62592-birth-rate-declines-2017.html
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Re: US Birth Rate Hits All-Time Low: What's Behind the Decline?
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2018, 10:07:21 AM »
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The teen birth rate fell 7 percent from 2016 to 2017

Good news.

People who shouldn't be having children are doing so at a lower rate.

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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2018, 08:21:47 PM »
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The teen birth rate fell 7 percent from 2016 to 2017

Good news.

People who shouldn't be having children are doing so at a lower rate.

Man, white America is in trouble :huh:

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Re: US Birth Rate Hits All-Time Low: What's Behind the Decline?
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2018, 08:34:50 PM »
The world's overpopulated. If people are having less kids that's nothing to cry about.

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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2018, 08:55:18 PM »
The world's overpopulated. If people are having less kids that's nothing to cry about.

What makes you think the world is overpopulated?

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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2018, 06:51:48 AM »
The world's overpopulated. If people are having less kids that's nothing to cry about.

What makes you think the world is overpopulated?

It’s been my experience.

Not saying I’m doing much to help matters...

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2018, 07:00:27 AM »
I'd like to make the argument that the problem isn't overpopulation but a lack of regulation, planning, and collaboration by those in charge/with influence.

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2018, 07:31:42 AM »
I'd like to make the argument that the problem isn't overpopulation but a lack of regulation, planning, and collaboration by those in charge/with influence.

Liberal as I am, I don't think that even the noblest governments will ever be coordinated, sophisticated, or efficient enough to deal with the enormous problems that our world is smacking up against. It's not clear that science or industry will be able to dig us out either, but I would put more faith there.

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Re: US Birth Rate Hits All-Time Low: What's Behind the Decline?
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2018, 07:46:52 AM »
A lot of people don't want babies. The economy is making it difficult for more people to even think about taking care of a child. As with many other things, its a trend that will change over time.
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Re: US Birth Rate Hits All-Time Low: What's Behind the Decline?
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2018, 10:56:52 AM »
I see a lot of American men who are so fat that the problem may be they just can't find their pecker.

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« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2018, 12:50:13 PM »
The government pays the wrong type of people to breed and strangles the economic conditions so hard so that the right people will feel they can't afford to breed.  (This could be changing with an uptick in the economy.  We'll see.)

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« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2018, 01:37:28 PM »
It's a well documented fact that countries that have a higher quality of living have fewer children.
The poorer a country, the higher the fertility rate.  The richer a country, the lower the fertility rate.

There are many factors at play.  It's more than just about ECONOMICS.  I hear most people say things like,
"because it's too expensive to have children" or "they make it hard to raise children today with how expensive
everything is".   If that's true, then why don't the wealthy people have 8-10 kids since they can afford it.  Do you really believe that if you started to make 50 million US dollars for teaching english, that would equate you to having more children because you can afford it?  No.  It doesn't.  You'd still only have 1 or 2, maybe 3 or 4 kids at most.  While on your 50,000 usd salary, you still have 1-4 kids and say that it's too hard raising kids nowadays because it's too expensive. 

It's not about money!   Poor people who can't afford half of what you can have double the amount of children you do and they live right next door to you!  It has more to do with culture and mind/beliefs than it has to do with money.

There is something about "having everything and yet having nothing".  The more we gain, the more rich we become, and all these illusions of us progressing and advancing is not coming without a cost.   

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« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2018, 02:05:22 PM »
It's simple. With the rise of the LBQT community and now with this new gender fluidity mess where people gravitate towards whoever they're attracted to they can't scientifically have kids. People don't really adopt either hence the decline.

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« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2018, 02:39:27 PM »
It's simple. With the rise of the LBQT community and now with this new gender fluidity mess where people gravitate towards whoever they're attracted to they can't scientifically have kids. People don't really adopt either hence the decline.

All part of the plan.  Push it in the schools and get the shrinks onboard.

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« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2018, 07:29:05 PM »
Interesting editorial:

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Want More Babies? You Need Less Patriarchy
Michelle Goldberg
By Michelle Goldberg
Opinion Columnist

May 25, 2018

Several commentators have described the plunge as a mystery, particularly since we’re in a period of economic growth. Some on the right have, absurdly, blamed the shrinking birthrate on abortion, even though abortion rates are also as low as they’ve been since Roe v. Wade was decided. More thoughtful conservatives, like National Review’s David French, speculated that the baby bust could be a sign of the same sort of sweeping despair that has been linked to America’s decreasing life expectancy.

I have another theory. Perhaps the United States is becoming more like the rest of the industrialized world, where declining birthrates are correlated with a lack of support for working mothers.

Outside the United States, the pattern is pretty clear. Developed countries that prioritize gender equality — including Sweden, Norway and France — have higher fertility rates than those that don’t.

This correlation between feminist social policy and higher fertility is widely recognized throughout the world; as David Willetts, a former Tory minister in the United Kingdom, once put it, “feminism is the new natalism.”

In the past, the major exception to the rule about pro-women policies and higher fertility was the United States. The American government does next to nothing for working parents, yet fertility rates, after reaching a low of around 1.7 children per woman in 1976, rose over the next 30 years, even as Europe’s fertility fell. There were several reasons for this, including substantial levels of Hispanic immigration, a high teen birthrate,...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/25/opinion/american-birthrate-patriarchy.html
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Re: US Birth Rate Hits All-Time Low: What's Behind the Decline?
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2018, 09:34:02 PM »
The government pays the wrong type of people to breed and strangles the economic conditions so hard so that the right people will feel they can't afford to breed.  (This could be changing with an uptick in the economy.  We'll see.)
The great majority of government social support goes to whites.

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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2018, 09:35:31 PM »
It's simple. With the rise of the LBQT community and now with this new gender fluidity mess where people gravitate towards whoever they're attracted to they can't scientifically have kids. People don't really adopt either hence the decline.
Really? About 135,000 children are adopted in the US every year.

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Re: US Birth Rate Hits All-Time Low: What's Behind the Decline?
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2018, 11:13:12 PM »
The government pays the wrong type of people to breed and strangles the economic conditions so hard so that the right people will feel they can't afford to breed.  (This could be changing with an uptick in the economy.  We'll see.)
The great majority of government social support goes to whites.

Get the FACTS!
But proportionally is what is important and telling .  Not the total number.

If you don't know how to process facts then it doesn't matter if you have them or not.
You clearly aren't smart enough to use facts.
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Re: US Birth Rate Hits All-Time Low: What's Behind the Decline?
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2018, 11:57:42 PM »
The government pays the wrong type of people to breed and strangles the economic conditions so hard so that the right people will feel they can't afford to breed.  (This could be changing with an uptick in the economy.  We'll see.)
The great majority of government social support goes to whites.

Get the FACTS!
But proportionally is what is important and telling .  Not the total number.

If you don't know how to process facts then it doesn't matter if you have them or not.
You clearly aren't smart enough to use facts.
I don't see any FACTS in your post to process.

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Re: US Birth Rate Hits All-Time Low: What's Behind the Decline?
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2018, 11:03:48 AM »
This is going to sound terrible, but technology has evolved to the point where women and men don't really need each other as much as they used to. This means there's less of a benefit to starting a family and rearing kids. (Generally speaking)

Women can secure work for themselves, are generally safe in Western countries, and have unlimited birth control. Because of the birth control, men can have non-committal sex, hire a prostitute, find gratification through pornography. Considering that 95% of alimony payers are men, and over 50% of marriages end in divorce, there may be logic behind staying away from marriage/kids.

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