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Author Topic: Putin unveils new Nuclear Weapons that render the USA defenceless.  (Read 2053 times)

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Re: Putin unveils new Nuclear Weapons that render the USA defenceless.
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2018, 01:31:41 PM »
This is the only warning I'm giving to this thread. You all are free to discuss the topic civially, but know that further posts directly targeted at users in order to stir up and spur flame wars (textbook trolling) will get this topic locked. I have already dealt with a couple instances here so far.
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Re: Putin unveils new Nuclear Weapons that render the USA defenceless.
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2018, 02:05:17 PM »
Try posting something that isn't fascist state propaganda injected into your ass by Putin. There's no way you aren't a joke poster troll.

Why the hell should Americans take a crappy broke-ass country like Russia seriously when they feel the need to threaten us with nuclear weapons? All this is is Russians trying yet again to convince themselves that they aren't a crappy joke country.

Why do I get a warning for nothing yet Mayor haggar is allowed to post his hate speech scot-free?

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Re: Putin unveils new Nuclear Weapons that render the USA defenceless.
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2018, 02:22:53 PM »
Try posting something that isn't fascist state propaganda injected into your ass by Putin. There's no way you aren't a joke poster troll.

Why the hell should Americans take a crappy broke-ass country like Russia seriously when they feel the need to threaten us with nuclear weapons? All this is is Russians trying yet again to convince themselves that they aren't a crappy joke country.

Why do I get a warning for nothing yet Mayor haggar is allowed to post his hate speech scot-free?

Both of you received warnings in proportion to your respective warning histories. Hence "a couple instances" mentioned above..
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Re: Putin unveils new Nuclear Weapons that render the USA defenceless.
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2018, 02:31:09 PM »
Meanwhile Russia has made America's ABM capability much less of a sure thing and (hopefully) given the NeoCons/NeoLibs some pause when it comes to their anti-Russian policies.


What is needed is for Washington to drop its policy of global hegemony and instead take up Russia on their offers of friendship/ partnership. Instead of constantly and uneccesarily trying to turn them into an enemy.

Its clear that nobody can win militarily and that the future needs to be about diplomacy and respecting other countries instead of escalating tensions.

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Russia has no defense against an American first strike or retaliatory strike

And the US has next to nothing.

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The United States has 44 missile interceptors based in Alaska and California, as well as sea and land-based systems in Europe and Asia. Though there are plans for a modest increase in these numbers, experts say they offer little protection against a well-equipped country such as Russia, which had sophisticated technology as well as sheer numbers that could overwhelm U.S. systems.

“They do not come close to even putting a dent in Russia’s ability to threaten the U.S. homeland with nuclear weapons,” Ian Williams, an expert on missile defense technology with the Center for Strategic and International Studies, wrote in an email. “Just the numbers alone ... 44 homeland defense interceptors vs. 1,500 Russian nuclear warheads.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/03/02/putins-new-missiles-could-probably-strike-the-u-s-he-old-ones-could-too/?utm_term=.fc5b8d141a35

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Re: Putin unveils new Nuclear Weapons that render the USA defenceless.
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2018, 02:32:22 PM »
God bless America!!!!!
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Re: Putin unveils new Nuclear Weapons that render the USA defenceless.
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2018, 02:33:43 PM »
I know I'm going to get accused of trying to censor free speech, which in most circumstances is the last thing I'd want to do, but in all seriousness, why are the moderators allowing Aurata to nakedly propagandize on behalf of an authoritarian government?

instead of trying to silence alternative viewpoints, why not just counter the points raised using facts and force of argument?

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Re: Putin unveils new Nuclear Weapons that render the USA defenceless.
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2018, 07:14:13 PM »
I'm not interested in silencing alternative viewpoints. I'm genuinely curious about whether or not you're getting paid for your commentary, and how that squares with Waygook's forum rules. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt if you clearly state that you're not taking any money in return for your numerous gestures of support for the Russian autocracy. I think it's odd that your talking points precisely correspond to those propagated by businesses working as PR vassals of the Kremlin, but if you want to put our minds at ease, feel free.

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why not just counter the points raised using facts and force of argument?

Anyone who contradicts you is immediately called an ignorant, brainwashed puppet of the corporate military-media-industrial complex, and it's not worth the bother of trying to have a genuine conversation when we already know what your response is going to be. Besides, there are lots of people, from all points on the political spectrum, with genuinely interesting "alternative viewpoints". Russian state propaganda lurks at the very bottom of the list of worthy opinions with which I'd like to engage.

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Re: Putin unveils new Nuclear Weapons that render the USA defenceless.
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2018, 08:28:18 PM »
Anyone who contradicts you is immediately called an ignorant, brainwashed puppet of the corporate military-media-industrial complex

not exactly, Andyman. Don't be afraid to engage in rational civilized conversation.

Look at Mayor hagar, he has never answered even the most simple questions put to him.


But lets start with an easy one.


How do you think Russia was supposed to respond to the emplacement of American bases with nuclear missile launchers all along its borders?




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Re: Putin unveils new Nuclear Weapons that render the USA defenceless.
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2018, 07:31:26 PM »



It is now undeniable that Russia has a massive nuclear superiority of the US and its vassal NATO states.

Given Russian capabilities, it is hard to see how the US even still qualifies as a superpower, except in its own mind.


If the avaricious military-security complex of america possessed these weapons and Russia did not, there seems little doubt that Washington would launch an attack on Russia.

However putin declared that Russia has no territorial ambitions, no hegemonic ambitions, and no intention to attack any other country.


He described the weapons as a necessary response to the West’s firm refusal year after year to accept peace and cooperation with Russia, instead surrounding Russia with military bases and ABM systems.

The president said:

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“We are interested in normal constructive interaction with the United States and the European Union and are expecting that common sense will prevail and our partners will choose fair and equal cooperation. . . . Our policy will never be based on aspirations for exceptionalism, we are defending our interests and respect the interests of other countries.”

Washingtons efforts to isolate Russia with sanctions and propaganda and to prevent Russian capability to respond to the growing military encirclement from the West has failed.

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Russia’s new weapons have made the entire US/NATO approach..-“ineffective from a military point of view.” “The sanctions to constrain Russia’s development, including in the military sphere… they did not work out.” They have not been been able to contain Russia. They need to realize this… Stop rocking the boat in which we all sit.”

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“no one wanted to speak with us. No one wanted to listen to us. Listen to us now.” Putin stressed that Russia’s nuclear weapons are reserved for retaliation, not for offense, but that any attack on Russia or Russia’s allies will receive an immediate response “with all the attendant consequences.”

Having made it clear that the Western policy of hegemony and intimidation is dead in the water, Putin again held out the olive branch:

 
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let us work together to solve the world’s problems.


So americans are you still keen on starting WW3? or is it time to take a more conciliatory approach.

Bolded.  That's a pretty bold assumption.

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Re: Putin unveils new Nuclear Weapons that render the USA defenceless.
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2018, 01:26:43 PM »