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Re: harassment leads to call for more women in management.
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2018, 08:48:29 AM »
I for one think employers should hire based on whatever they feel they need. If they want to hire best qualified based on standardized criteria, fine. If they want to hire a less overall qualified minority (or white person/male) because that person brings something specific, then go ahead.

To put in dorkanese, if my party already has 4 humans, it might be a good idea to have a less qualified elf join rather than yet another human.

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Re: harassment leads to call for more women in management.
« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2018, 09:30:26 AM »
I for one think employers should hire based on whatever they feel they need. If they want to hire best qualified based on standardized criteria, fine. If they want to hire a less overall qualified minority (or white person/male) because that person brings something specific, then go ahead.

To put in dorkanese, if my party already has 4 humans, it might be a good idea to have a less qualified elf join rather than yet another human.

Sure, if there are specific needs such as the police needing women police officers or a film company needing to hire black actors for a film about Africa. However generally people prefer to be treated as individuals when applying for jobs, rather than typical representatives of a group.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2018, 09:32:08 AM by eggieguffer »

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« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2018, 11:39:22 AM »
I for one think employers should hire based on whatever they feel they need. If they want to hire best qualified based on standardized criteria, fine. If they want to hire a less overall qualified minority (or white person/male) because that person brings something specific, then go ahead.

To put in dorkanese, if my party already has 4 humans, it might be a good idea to have a less qualified elf join rather than yet another human.

Sure, if there are specific needs such as the police needing women police officers or a film company needing to hire black actors for a film about Africa. However generally people prefer to be treated as individuals when applying for jobs, rather than typical representatives of a group.
And that's why they're fighting discrimination. Now you're getting it!

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Re: harassment leads to call for more women in management.
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2018, 01:56:42 PM »
I for one think employers should hire based on whatever they feel they need. If they want to hire best qualified based on standardized criteria, fine. If they want to hire a less overall qualified minority (or white person/male) because that person brings something specific, then go ahead.

To put in dorkanese, if my party already has 4 humans, it might be a good idea to have a less qualified elf join rather than yet another human.

Sure, if there are specific needs such as the police needing women police officers or a film company needing to hire black actors for a film about Africa. However generally people prefer to be treated as individuals when applying for jobs, rather than typical representatives of a group.
And that's why they're fighting discrimination. Now you're getting it!

Fight discrimination.......using more discrimination~~~~Brilliant!!!!
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Re: harassment leads to call for more women in management.
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2018, 01:58:26 PM »
I for one think employers should hire based on whatever they feel they need. If they want to hire best qualified based on standardized criteria, fine. If they want to hire a less overall qualified minority (or white person/male) because that person brings something specific, then go ahead.

To put in dorkanese, if my party already has 4 humans, it might be a good idea to have a less qualified elf join rather than yet another human.

Sure, if there are specific needs such as the police needing women police officers or a film company needing to hire black actors for a film about Africa. However generally people prefer to be treated as individuals when applying for jobs, rather than typical representatives of a group.
And that's why they're fighting discrimination. Now you're getting it!

What discrimination are they fighting?

Males are being discriminated against. Affirmative action is alive and well in the Armed Forces and firefighting in Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiZtDh8jFWk

Where is the push for gender equality in primary school teaching, nursing or child care work? Oh wait! Women dominate those fields so that's fine.

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« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2018, 03:31:30 PM »
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Now you're getting it!

Yes, you're still not getting it, as donuts81 pointed out. Pursuing goals or quotas is not treating people as individuals but simply as genders or races.

That's where the Guardian woman gets confused. On the one hand she's complaining on behalf of her female comedian friends who are told they already have a woman on the panel show ie they're not treated on their individual merits. Then she implies that women comedians should make up 50% of the shows as women make up 50% of the population - now she wants them to be treated as representatives of a group. Make your mind up.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2018, 03:49:49 PM by eggieguffer »

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« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2018, 03:48:33 PM »
I for one think employers should hire based on whatever they feel they need. If they want to hire best qualified based on standardized criteria, fine. If they want to hire a less overall qualified minority (or white person/male) because that person brings something specific, then go ahead.

To put in dorkanese, if my party already has 4 humans, it might be a good idea to have a less qualified elf join rather than yet another human.

Sure, if there are specific needs such as the police needing women police officers or a film company needing to hire black actors for a film about Africa. However generally people prefer to be treated as individuals when applying for jobs, rather than typical representatives of a group.
And that's why they're fighting discrimination. Now you're getting it!

What discrimination are they fighting?

Males are being discriminated against. Affirmative action is alive and well in the Armed Forces and firefighting in Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiZtDh8jFWk

Where is the push for gender equality in primary school teaching, nursing or child care work? Oh wait! Women dominate those fields so that's fine.
Males aren't being discriminated against. The playing field is being leveled (a little).

The fields you mention all work to recruit men.

https://qanurserymagazine.co.uk/content/benefits-men-childcare
https://www.ameritech.edu/blog/why-male-nurse-career/
http://www.menteach.org/resources/links_to_other_sites

So if you're interested in entering one of those fields, opportunity awaits!

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« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2018, 03:53:35 PM »
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Males aren't being discriminated against. The playing field is being leveled (a little).

The playing field is being leveled by discriminating against men. You're still not getting it.

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Re: harassment leads to call for more women in management.
« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2018, 04:01:43 PM »
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Males aren't being discriminated against. The playing field is being leveled (a little).

The playing field is being leveled by discriminating against men. You're still not getting it.

Right. There was a trial in Australia where people were hired blind, meaning without the gender or race being stated. The paranoid feminists thought this would lead to more women being hired. It did not. It led to more men being hired. If anyone is being placed on a pedestal, it's women.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-30/bilnd-recruitment-trial-to-improve-gender-equality-failing-study/8664888

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« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2018, 04:07:34 PM »
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Males aren't being discriminated against. The playing field is being leveled (a little).

The fields you mention all work to recruit men.

https://qanurserymagazine.co.uk/content/benefits-men-childcare
https://www.ameritech.edu/blog/why-male-nurse-career/
http://www.menteach.org/resources/links_to_other_sites

So if you're interested in entering one of those fields, opportunity awaits!

You're avoiding the question again, which is why aren't there goals or quotas in these field to achieve a 50/50 gender split? The more often you dodge direct questions the weaker your position becomes.

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« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2018, 05:36:36 PM »
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Males aren't being discriminated against. The playing field is being leveled (a little).

The fields you mention all work to recruit men.

https://qanurserymagazine.co.uk/content/benefits-men-childcare
https://www.ameritech.edu/blog/why-male-nurse-career/
http://www.menteach.org/resources/links_to_other_sites

So if you're interested in entering one of those fields, opportunity awaits!

You're avoiding the question again, which is why aren't there goals or quotas in these field to achieve a 50/50 gender split? The more often you dodge direct questions the weaker your position becomes.
That question, in the form you ask it, isn't worth answering.

The fields you chose are all working to recruit more men for diversity. Why are you, who so opposes quotas, arguing that they should institute quotas?

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« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2018, 05:42:37 PM »
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Males aren't being discriminated against. The playing field is being leveled (a little).

The fields you mention all work to recruit men.

https://qanurserymagazine.co.uk/content/benefits-men-childcare
https://www.ameritech.edu/blog/why-male-nurse-career/
http://www.menteach.org/resources/links_to_other_sites

So if you're interested in entering one of those fields, opportunity awaits!

You're avoiding the question again, which is why aren't there goals or quotas in these field to achieve a 50/50 gender split? The more often you dodge direct questions the weaker your position becomes.
That question, in the form you ask it, isn't worth answering.

The fields you chose are all working to recruit more men for diversity. Why are you, who so opposes quotas, arguing that they should institute quotas?

Oh Jesus. Firstly, I didn't ask that question, CJ did. Secondly, where am I arguing that they should institute quotas?
If those fields are working to recruit more men for diversity, that's great. As long as they don't discriminate against women during the application process. Like they did against men in the example of the Australian military.

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« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2018, 08:02:14 PM »
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Males aren't being discriminated against. The playing field is being leveled (a little).

The fields you mention all work to recruit men.

https://qanurserymagazine.co.uk/content/benefits-men-childcare
https://www.ameritech.edu/blog/why-male-nurse-career/
http://www.menteach.org/resources/links_to_other_sites

So if you're interested in entering one of those fields, opportunity awaits!

You're avoiding the question again, which is why aren't there goals or quotas in these field to achieve a 50/50 gender split? The more often you dodge direct questions the weaker your position becomes.
That question, in the form you ask it, isn't worth answering.

The fields you chose are all working to recruit more men for diversity. Why are you, who so opposes quotas, arguing that they should institute quotas?

Oh Jesus. Firstly, I didn't ask that question, CJ did. Secondly, where am I arguing that they should institute quotas?
If those fields are working to recruit more men for diversity, that's great. As long as they don't discriminate against women during the application process. Like they did against men in the example of the Australian military.
I responded to your post in which you asked the question in which whomever originally asked it was asking for quotas for men.

The Australian military is recruiting women to achieve certain goals. Thus they they aren't currently recruiting men. Men can still apply; they'll just have to wait. Like women have for centuries.

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« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2018, 08:13:06 PM »
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The Australian military is recruiting women to achieve certain goals. Thus they they aren't currently recruiting men. Men can still apply; they'll just have to wait. Like women have for centuries.

Yep that's it in a nutshell. Two wrongs make a right.

And those poor women, waiting for centuries to get the opportunity to have their brains blown out for their country. I'm sure all those Korean women who have waited for centuries to do national service are fighting so hard to get the chance in their life times.  :rolleyes: It takes some doublethink to come up with the idea that this was a male privilege.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2018, 09:09:58 PM by eggieguffer »

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Re: harassment leads to call for more women in management.
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2018, 09:04:55 AM »
I for one think employers should hire based on whatever they feel they need. If they want to hire best qualified based on standardized criteria, fine. If they want to hire a less overall qualified minority (or white person/male) because that person brings something specific, then go ahead.

To put in dorkanese, if my party already has 4 humans, it might be a good idea to have a less qualified elf join rather than yet another human.

Sure, if there are specific needs such as the police needing women police officers or a film company needing to hire black actors for a film about Africa. However generally people prefer to be treated as individuals when applying for jobs, rather than typical representatives of a group.
And that's why they're fighting discrimination. Now you're getting it!

What discrimination are they fighting?

Males are being discriminated against. Affirmative action is alive and well in the Armed Forces and firefighting in Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiZtDh8jFWk

Where is the push for gender equality in primary school teaching, nursing or child care work? Oh wait! Women dominate those fields so that's fine.
Males aren't being discriminated against. The playing field is being leveled (a little).

The fields you mention all work to recruit men.

https://qanurserymagazine.co.uk/content/benefits-men-childcare
https://www.ameritech.edu/blog/why-male-nurse-career/
http://www.menteach.org/resources/links_to_other_sites

So if you're interested in entering one of those fields, opportunity awaits!

There's "opportunity" in every field. However, you need to show me evidence that males are getting preferrential treatment in being hired over women to obtain a 50/50 gender quota in the fields I mentioned. It isn't happening. What is happening is that women are getting hired just because they are women, and, in cetain fields, the standard has been lowered to allow women in. That is appalling.

My take is, let nature take its course. If women gravitate towards certain fields and men others, let it be. Only 2% of men are in childcare. Who cares? I certainly don't. This 50/50 BS is virtual signalling at its worst. Oh look at our company! We're so progressive as we have a 50/50 mix of males and females!

On a side note, I've read quite a few essays of my students' dreams. Not one male said he wanted to be a nurse or primary school teacher. Not one. But, many of the female students said they want to be a nurse, primary school teacher or work in some kind of health career. Hardly any said they want to work in engineering. Is this a social construct? Or is it that males and females have different interests? But we can't have that now can we? If there's a field that is dominated by men, we must have a 50/50 ratio.

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« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2018, 11:22:14 AM »
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The Australian military is recruiting women to achieve certain goals. Thus they they aren't currently recruiting men. Men can still apply; they'll just have to wait. Like women have for centuries.

Yep that's it in a nutshell. Two wrongs make a right.

And those poor women, waiting for centuries to get the opportunity to have their brains blown out for their country. I'm sure all those Korean women who have waited for centuries to do national service are fighting so hard to get the chance in their life times.  :rolleyes: It takes some doublethink to come up with the idea that this was a male privilege.
No, they are righting a wrong.

South Korean special forces:



North Korean women serve in the military where unfortunately they endure widespread sexual violence and harassment. Your kind of organization?

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« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2018, 11:33:10 AM »
I for one think employers should hire based on whatever they feel they need. If they want to hire best qualified based on standardized criteria, fine. If they want to hire a less overall qualified minority (or white person/male) because that person brings something specific, then go ahead.

To put in dorkanese, if my party already has 4 humans, it might be a good idea to have a less qualified elf join rather than yet another human.

Sure, if there are specific needs such as the police needing women police officers or a film company needing to hire black actors for a film about Africa. However generally people prefer to be treated as individuals when applying for jobs, rather than typical representatives of a group.
And that's why they're fighting discrimination. Now you're getting it!

What discrimination are they fighting?

Males are being discriminated against. Affirmative action is alive and well in the Armed Forces and firefighting in Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiZtDh8jFWk

Where is the push for gender equality in primary school teaching, nursing or child care work? Oh wait! Women dominate those fields so that's fine.
Males aren't being discriminated against. The playing field is being leveled (a little).

The fields you mention all work to recruit men.

https://qanurserymagazine.co.uk/content/benefits-men-childcare
https://www.ameritech.edu/blog/why-male-nurse-career/
http://www.menteach.org/resources/links_to_other_sites

So if you're interested in entering one of those fields, opportunity awaits!

There's "opportunity" in every field. However, you need to show me evidence that males are getting preferrential treatment in being hired over women to obtain a 50/50 gender quota in the fields I mentioned. It isn't happening. What is happening is that women are getting hired just because they are women, and, in cetain fields, the standard has been lowered to allow women in. That is appalling.

My take is, let nature take its course. If women gravitate towards certain fields and men others, let it be. Only 2% of men are in childcare. Who cares? I certainly don't. This 50/50 BS is virtual signalling at its worst. Oh look at our company! We're so progressive as we have a 50/50 mix of males and females!

On a side note, I've read quite a few essays of my students' dreams. Not one male said he wanted to be a nurse or primary school teacher. Not one. But, many of the female students said they want to be a nurse, primary school teacher or work in some kind of health career. Hardly any said they want to work in engineering. Is this a social construct? Or is it that males and females have different interests? But we can't have that now can we? If there's a field that is dominated by men, we must have a 50/50 ratio.
What's "virtual signalling"?

It's a social construct. Plus in SK, where gender roles are heavily stereotyped, it's taking what's available.

 On a side note, I knew an Indonesian woman engineer at Samsung. She never got a chance to work as an engineer; she taught Indonesian and Malaysian for a few years until she realized they were never going to let her work in her field and quit.

Diversity is good for society and good for productivity. What's your beef with it?

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« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2018, 11:37:33 AM »
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The Australian military is recruiting women to achieve certain goals. Thus they they aren't currently recruiting men. Men can still apply; they'll just have to wait. Like women have for centuries.

Yep that's it in a nutshell. Two wrongs make a right.

And those poor women, waiting for centuries to get the opportunity to have their brains blown out for their country. I'm sure all those Korean women who have waited for centuries to do national service are fighting so hard to get the chance in their life times.  :rolleyes: It takes some doublethink to come up with the idea that this was a male privilege.
No, they are righting a wrong.

South Korean special forces:



North Korean women serve in the military where unfortunately they endure widespread sexual violence and harassment. Your kind of organization?

That's the second time you've implied I'm in favour of violence towards women. Just for having different opinions to yours. Pretty despicable behaviour actually.

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Re: harassment leads to call for more women in management.
« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2018, 11:57:14 AM »
I for one think employers should hire based on whatever they feel they need. If they want to hire best qualified based on standardized criteria, fine. If they want to hire a less overall qualified minority (or white person/male) because that person brings something specific, then go ahead.

To put in dorkanese, if my party already has 4 humans, it might be a good idea to have a less qualified elf join rather than yet another human.

Sure, if there are specific needs such as the police needing women police officers or a film company needing to hire black actors for a film about Africa. However generally people prefer to be treated as individuals when applying for jobs, rather than typical representatives of a group.
And that's why they're fighting discrimination. Now you're getting it!

What discrimination are they fighting?

Males are being discriminated against. Affirmative action is alive and well in the Armed Forces and firefighting in Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiZtDh8jFWk

Where is the push for gender equality in primary school teaching, nursing or child care work? Oh wait! Women dominate those fields so that's fine.
Males aren't being discriminated against. The playing field is being leveled (a little).

The fields you mention all work to recruit men.

https://qanurserymagazine.co.uk/content/benefits-men-childcare
https://www.ameritech.edu/blog/why-male-nurse-career/
http://www.menteach.org/resources/links_to_other_sites

So if you're interested in entering one of those fields, opportunity awaits!

There's "opportunity" in every field. However, you need to show me evidence that males are getting preferrential treatment in being hired over women to obtain a 50/50 gender quota in the fields I mentioned. It isn't happening. What is happening is that women are getting hired just because they are women, and, in cetain fields, the standard has been lowered to allow women in. That is appalling.

My take is, let nature take its course. If women gravitate towards certain fields and men others, let it be. Only 2% of men are in childcare. Who cares? I certainly don't. This 50/50 BS is virtual signalling at its worst. Oh look at our company! We're so progressive as we have a 50/50 mix of males and females!

On a side note, I've read quite a few essays of my students' dreams. Not one male said he wanted to be a nurse or primary school teacher. Not one. But, many of the female students said they want to be a nurse, primary school teacher or work in some kind of health career. Hardly any said they want to work in engineering. Is this a social construct? Or is it that males and females have different interests? But we can't have that now can we? If there's a field that is dominated by men, we must have a 50/50 ratio.
What's "virtual signalling"?

It's a social construct. Plus in SK, where gender roles are heavily stereotyped, it's taking what's available.

 On a side note, I knew an Indonesian woman engineer at Samsung. She never got a chance to work as an engineer; she taught Indonesian and Malaysian for a few years until she realized they were never going to let her work in her field and quit.

Diversity is good for society and good for productivity. What's your beef with it?

Virtue signalling. Got it?

BS it's a social construct. Absolute BS!

I'm very glad you mentioned gender sterotypes in South Korea. There was a recent study done in one of the Scandinavian countries, Norway I think, which is without doubt one of the most egalitarian countries in the world, and it is shown that given a fair society, men and women pursue their own interests. Women account for something like 80+% of nurses, while 80% of engineers are males. This without a shadow of a doubt shows that when women have complete freedom to do whatever they want, they follow their natural instincts. This is not a social construct. Men and women are NOT the same.

You're confusing natural diversity in a workplace with a politically charged, virtue signalling agenda that all male dominated fields must be 50% women. This is BS.

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« Reply #59 on: January 05, 2018, 01:19:48 PM »
I for one think employers should hire based on whatever they feel they need. If they want to hire best qualified based on standardized criteria, fine. If they want to hire a less overall qualified minority (or white person/male) because that person brings something specific, then go ahead.

To put in dorkanese, if my party already has 4 humans, it might be a good idea to have a less qualified elf join rather than yet another human.

Sure, if there are specific needs such as the police needing women police officers or a film company needing to hire black actors for a film about Africa. However generally people prefer to be treated as individuals when applying for jobs, rather than typical representatives of a group.
And that's why they're fighting discrimination. Now you're getting it!

What discrimination are they fighting?

Males are being discriminated against. Affirmative action is alive and well in the Armed Forces and firefighting in Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiZtDh8jFWk

Where is the push for gender equality in primary school teaching, nursing or child care work? Oh wait! Women dominate those fields so that's fine.
Males aren't being discriminated against. The playing field is being leveled (a little).

The fields you mention all work to recruit men.

https://qanurserymagazine.co.uk/content/benefits-men-childcare
https://www.ameritech.edu/blog/why-male-nurse-career/
http://www.menteach.org/resources/links_to_other_sites

So if you're interested in entering one of those fields, opportunity awaits!

There's "opportunity" in every field. However, you need to show me evidence that males are getting preferrential treatment in being hired over women to obtain a 50/50 gender quota in the fields I mentioned. It isn't happening. What is happening is that women are getting hired just because they are women, and, in cetain fields, the standard has been lowered to allow women in. That is appalling.

My take is, let nature take its course. If women gravitate towards certain fields and men others, let it be. Only 2% of men are in childcare. Who cares? I certainly don't. This 50/50 BS is virtual signalling at its worst. Oh look at our company! We're so progressive as we have a 50/50 mix of males and females!

On a side note, I've read quite a few essays of my students' dreams. Not one male said he wanted to be a nurse or primary school teacher. Not one. But, many of the female students said they want to be a nurse, primary school teacher or work in some kind of health career. Hardly any said they want to work in engineering. Is this a social construct? Or is it that males and females have different interests? But we can't have that now can we? If there's a field that is dominated by men, we must have a 50/50 ratio.
What's "virtual signalling"?

It's a social construct. Plus in SK, where gender roles are heavily stereotyped, it's taking what's available.

 On a side note, I knew an Indonesian woman engineer at Samsung. She never got a chance to work as an engineer; she taught Indonesian and Malaysian for a few years until she realized they were never going to let her work in her field and quit.

Diversity is good for society and good for productivity. What's your beef with it?

Virtue signalling. Got it?

BS it's a social construct. Absolute BS!

I'm very glad you mentioned gender sterotypes in South Korea. There was a recent study done in one of the Scandinavian countries, Norway I think, which is without doubt one of the most egalitarian countries in the world, and it is shown that given a fair society, men and women pursue their own interests. Women account for something like 80+% of nurses, while 80% of engineers are males. This without a shadow of a doubt shows that when women have complete freedom to do whatever they want, they follow their natural instincts. This is not a social construct. Men and women are NOT the same.

You're confusing natural diversity in a workplace with a politically charged, virtue signalling agenda that all male dominated fields must be 50% women. This is BS.
LOL. You don't know which country it is and yet you claim it?? is "one of the most egalitarian countries in the world." That's BS.

Who's agenda are you referring to regarding "ALL male dominated fields must be 50% women?

Virtue signaling--got it, conservative jargon for I oppose diversity.

Speaking of social constructs:
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While the biological hypothesis seems to appeal to some tech workers, the notion that Silicon Valley’s gender gap can be explained away by such factors is questionable. Prof Dame Wendy Hall, a director of the Web Science Institute at the University of Southampton, points to the wide variation in gender ratios in computing internationally, which she argues would not be seen if there were a universal biological difference in ability between the sexes. While only 16% of computer science undergraduates in the UK – and a similar proportion in the US – are female, the balance is different in India, Malaysia and Nigeria.

“I walk into a classroom in India and it’s more than 50% girls, the same in Malaysia,” says Hall. “They are so passionate about coding, Lots of women love coding. There just aren’t these gender differences there.”

In fact, in the west, female participation in computer science has plunged since the mid-80s, while female participation in medicine and other scientific fields has increased steadily.