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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #120 on: June 02, 2017, 03:28:25 PM »
I mean your worldview disgusts me but you're right that these threads are bad, and shouldn't exist

Don't see how waiting for a proper investigation instead of just believing one sided claims of racism or discrimination from certain individuals is "disgusting", but okay.  You act like I'm fighting for the justice system just to ignore the situation and NOT have an investigation.  Because if you are, I have absolutely no idea where you are getting that from.

Sorry for believing in the idea of "innocent until proven guilty".  That shit must be disgusting?
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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #121 on: June 02, 2017, 05:29:13 PM »
Too many speak for what they do not know.

Evergreen is the most liberal college in Washington, they don't even give grades but do a portfolio.

You would be hard pressed to find a single student or faculty member that wasn't a complete bleeding-heart liberal.

To accuse them of "racism" is laughable.

PLU, maybe, but not Evergreen.

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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #122 on: June 02, 2017, 06:12:34 PM »
I enjoy debating on Waygook.org and I think the mods here are pretty reasonable.

People living outside of their home countries tend to have a broader perspective on social and political issues and it's good to discuss such topics with those people.

If other people only want to talk about teaching and life in Korea, they can just ignore threads about American politics.

Do you consider the way people are responding to each other's posts "debating"?

And if it was like how you said.  Then why ban religious topics?  Couldn't the "other people who only want to talk about teaching and life in Korea" just ignore the threads about religion?

There was a reason why religious discussions were banned.  And that reason was probably similar to the same political BS happening in the threads you see now.

I also don't think religious threads should be banned, to be honest. That all happened before I started participating though.

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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #123 on: June 02, 2017, 07:32:38 PM »
Too many speak for what they do not know.

Evergreen is the most liberal college in Washington, they don't even give grades but do a portfolio.

You would be hard pressed to find a single student or faculty member that wasn't a complete bleeding-heart liberal.

To accuse them of "racism" is laughable.

PLU, maybe, but not Evergreen.

Liberals don't believe that anyone but whites can be racist.  So it shouldn't shock anyone that they are racist.     
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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #124 on: June 02, 2017, 07:58:50 PM »
Too many speak for what they do not know.

Evergreen is the most liberal college in Washington, they don't even give grades but do a portfolio.

You would be hard pressed to find a single student or faculty member that wasn't a complete bleeding-heart liberal.

To accuse them of "racism" is laughable.

PLU, maybe, but not Evergreen.

Liberals don't believe that anyone but whites can be racist.  So it shouldn't shock anyone that they are racist.    It's mind boggling how stupid this is.

It's even more amazing that people believe this despite living in Korea.

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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #125 on: June 13, 2017, 03:08:12 PM »
Ya'll... ok. Lol, as an alumnus from Evergreen and a student faculty member, I'm still on their online forums, social media, and faculty email lists. If you wanna know what actually happened instead of this fearmongering, "Omg millenial SJW's are so stupid" nonsense that is the majority of this post than listen up.

A few weeks ago, a black student who was helping with a completely benign, non protest informational table set up with the schools permission got roughed up by the school cop. Nothing serious, but the circumstances were odd. The students that were their said that it was out of the blue, unfounded, and the black student that was involved hadn't even been interacting with whatever argument had been taking place when the cop went around the white students (Evergreen is predominantly a white school) go get to him. Suffice to say it was weird. Students were upset but they followed the proper channels and requested an investigation. School didn't respond.

A few weeks later the annual Day of Absence/Day of Presence event comes around. The Day of Absence is an event held every year where special lectures, workshops, and open forums take place and students are given the choice to attend if they want to and dismissed from regular classes if they like. Previously the special lectures and so on specifically for students of color were held off campus, while other special lectures were held on campus. This year the student union decided to switch it up, as there aren't enough spaces to hold them all on campus (the school is pretty damn small), and they wanted the locations to reflect the event's message of absence versus presence. It's fruity and touchy feely but that is what the school is built on and prides itself in. Besides, it was a unanimously decision that was viewed as inoffensive and benign by the students union and approved by the student body.

But of course not, because the real snowflakes showed up. A white professor who is not active in school functions, and had previously expressed no interest in being part of extracurricular decisions, came out of the woodwork to complain that somehow, this was reverse racism. Rolls eyes forever* He said that it wasn't fair that students interested in going to the non POC specific lectures had to go to off campus locations. Never mind he himself is not one of the poor students effected, attendance is completely optional, and the student body was in support of the decision. He saw himself as the Protector of the Whites and got on his high horse anyway.

He managed to finagle himself a spot on Fox News and that's when shit hit the fan. He spent the interview talking shit about the college and hyping up this completely non issue, cuz his fee-fees were hurt. Then out came previous complaints this particular professor had garnered while he was at Evergreen, small things that probably wouldn't have amounted to much if he hadn't come out so thoroughly half assed, things like veering off in the middle of classes to give random lectures on how black people should behave during protests and stuff. Objectionable, especially at a college that was literally founded on the liberal side of things, but mostly pushed under the rug, because who has time for that shit. If it wasn't for him making something not about him completely about him it blew up in his face.

After his fizzling fifteen minutes of snowflake-y, "stupid millennials!" interview on Fox, students requested that the administration get off their collective butts and do something. Remember an investigation into the cop incident still hadn't happened, so their was that to fuel the fires too. They held small demonstrations to put pressure on the president to at least acknowledge both situations, and the open forums that are held almost weekly at the school were more virulent for awhile afterward as a consequence of the whole thing.

In short, this post doesn't provide any info on what actually was going on at the school. And it's nobodies place but the students to decide what kind of school they want to pay out the ass to attend anyway.

If anyone is a snowflake here its those who are aghast at students having demonstrations like they've done for centuries in colleges all over the world.

DING DING DING DING DING

It's literally like this every time one of these stories comes out.

There's no getting through to people like that professor or the Sad Whites on here. (Should qualify I'm also white, but whatever). All this gruesome 'black people rule over us! and love to play the victim! and people are too sensitive!' stuff is just the worst kind of projection. Failing lives! Very sad!

As someone else has said here, and not for the first time, the forum is absolutely swarming with alt-right manbabies now. I don't know how it was before, but really well done lads for making the front page unbelievably toxic at all times.

There have been real-life conferences where speakers advised new people to never read the forums on here, because of stuff like this. You tragic little racists are really hated here, just as you doubtless are by most people back home.

Literally on video:

-Whites told they don't get chairs during a meeting because non-whites get them

-Whites told they can't have food because non-whites get it

-Crowded so whites are made to leave

-Whites locked in a room for an entire day and not allowed to even go use the restroom without escorts watching them (literally kidnapping)

-Whites aren't allowed to raise their hands while speaking. Forced to hold hands behind back or stuck to their sides.

And this entire school, including its police department, are SJWs themselves. There was no police beating. A student threatened other students online and was brought in for questioning. A faction of the faculty/students have been trying to eliminate the campus police and want "community policing" in which, surprise... they get to wield power over the campus and... surprise... this is the same group currently showing themselves to be racist monsters who delight in bullying.

The level of ego investment in liberal fantasy victimhood is astounding. The emails and videos show everything. You can't undo seeing people lock other people in a room, curse at them and call them cave people, and not let them use the restroom. No one is imagining fake monsters because the real ones are on video.

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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #126 on: July 29, 2017, 10:42:16 AM »
As for solving the problems regarding this site and its forum, an ignore button old go a long way toward that goal.

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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #127 on: September 13, 2018, 11:08:34 AM »
Freshman enrollment has fallen by 50%. Unfortunately, the president who told the police to stand down while violent leftist mobs drove white people off campus is still in charge.


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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #128 on: September 13, 2018, 01:55:45 PM »
Freshman enrollment has fallen by 50%. Unfortunately, the president who told the police to stand down while violent leftist mobs drove white people off campus is still in charge.


Why get a solid education when you can just go to Evergreen College and join a leftist terror cult?

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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #129 on: September 14, 2018, 10:08:05 AM »
Freshman enrollment has fallen by 50%. Unfortunately, the president who told the police to stand down while violent leftist mobs drove white people off campus is still in charge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9UwO5R_-KE
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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #130 on: September 14, 2018, 10:24:37 AM »
Smaller classes, better educational outcomes.
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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #131 on: September 14, 2018, 10:34:28 AM »
Freshman enrollment has fallen by 50%. Unfortunately, the president who told the police to stand down while violent leftist mobs drove white people off campus is still in charge.


It's only natural for our resident clowns to come to the simplest and most inaccurate of conclusions, based on zero actual thought or logic.

Meanwhile, back in the real world...

Patriot Prayer, a white supremacist group, planned a rally on campus that they called “March Against Evergreen State College,” but which they quickly redubbed “Free Speech Evergreen State College.” Cops in riot gear showed up.

Then, on June 1, a man called Evergreen and told an administrator he planned on coming to campus with a .44 magnum to, “execute as many people on that campus as I can get ahold of.”


Yes, you read that right...white supremacist groups and a very real threat of a mass shooting. Which naturally resulted in...

Several students who had been central to organizing against racism on campus left Evergreen either because they felt unsafe or were too burnt out to continue studying there after the Weinstein incident.

https://theoutline.com/post/5721/racism-free-speech-evergreen-state-college

So it turns out that if your small university campus gets inundated with threats from white supremacists and armed lunatics (who are also most probably white supremacists)...people might not actually want to study there. You know, safety and all that jazz. Who could have ever made that connection??

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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #132 on: September 14, 2018, 12:48:54 PM »
Freshman enrollment has fallen by 50%. Unfortunately, the president who told the police to stand down while violent leftist mobs drove white people off campus is still in charge.


It's only natural for our resident clowns to come to the simplest and most inaccurate of conclusions, based on zero actual thought or logic.

Meanwhile, back in the real world...

Patriot Prayer, a white supremacist group, planned a rally on campus that they called “March Against Evergreen State College,” but which they quickly redubbed “Free Speech Evergreen State College.” Cops in riot gear showed up.

Then, on June 1, a man called Evergreen and told an administrator he planned on coming to campus with a .44 magnum to, “execute as many people on that campus as I can get ahold of.”


Yes, you read that right...white supremacist groups and a very real threat of a mass shooting. Which naturally resulted in...

Several students who had been central to organizing against racism on campus left Evergreen either because they felt unsafe or were too burnt out to continue studying there after the Weinstein incident.

https://theoutline.com/post/5721/racism-free-speech-evergreen-state-college

So it turns out that if your small university campus gets inundated with threats from white supremacists and armed lunatics (who are also most probably white supremacists)...people might not actually want to study there. You know, safety and all that jazz. Who could have ever made that connection??
Why is it called white supremacy when whites try to do what is best for whites? Every other race seems to feel no shame about advancing their own interests but you never hear about "black supremacy" or "Asian supremacy".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmeRR2u-Jk8&t=390

Regardless, Patriot Prayer was peacefully exercising their rights. They did not cause any property damage. Your side could learn something from them.

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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #133 on: September 14, 2018, 01:40:21 PM »
Regardless, Patriot Prayer was peacefully exercising their rights. They did not cause any property damage. Your side could learn something from them.
    Folk on both sides of the American political spectrum have engaged in some pretty shameful behaviour during protests and rallies.

   How about people in general just get with it and act like civilized adults. The only thing that car-torching, wrestling, and brick throwing will ever convince people of is that you're a child not worth considering beyond whatever it takes to get you in a cell.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #134 on: September 14, 2018, 02:01:19 PM »
Freshman enrollment has fallen by 50%. Unfortunately, the president who told the police to stand down while violent leftist mobs drove white people off campus is still in charge.


It's only natural for our resident clowns to come to the simplest and most inaccurate of conclusions, based on zero actual thought or logic.

Meanwhile, back in the real world...

Patriot Prayer, a white supremacist group, planned a rally on campus that they called “March Against Evergreen State College,” but which they quickly redubbed “Free Speech Evergreen State College.” Cops in riot gear showed up.

Then, on June 1, a man called Evergreen and told an administrator he planned on coming to campus with a .44 magnum to, “execute as many people on that campus as I can get ahold of.”


Yes, you read that right...white supremacist groups and a very real threat of a mass shooting. Which naturally resulted in...

Several students who had been central to organizing against racism on campus left Evergreen either because they felt unsafe or were too burnt out to continue studying there after the Weinstein incident.

https://theoutline.com/post/5721/racism-free-speech-evergreen-state-college

So it turns out that if your small university campus gets inundated with threats from white supremacists and armed lunatics (who are also most probably white supremacists)...people might not actually want to study there. You know, safety and all that jazz. Who could have ever made that connection??

I read the article... No doubt white supremacists are the most detestable here, but this source is completely biased. Most people detest the fringe left group and the white supremacists. WS came later looking for a platform and attention.

The enrollment that's down 50% is white students avoiding SJW hell.

 This is old news, but there are testimonies from students of multiple ethnicities saying that they don't feel safe learning because they choose to not focus on race and join the fringe ideological minority. If they didn't join the "cult" they were threatened and berated as racists and bigots. "Safe space" to these people is to determine what other people can and can't say so that they aren't offended. There is nothing equal or fair about that. This is just mob politics where a fringe minority group is trying to speak and determine the rules for everyone because they claim victim status. It's one thing to have bigoted demands like "a day without white people", but it's another  when they tyrannically capture the administration of the school and subdue them to their wants.

When teachers and staff dared to let these people describe how they are offended, they told them it's racist to make them educate others about their oppression.. Sounds like a lovely, non-entitled, bunch of people, that anyone would want to go to class with.
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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #135 on: September 17, 2018, 08:51:16 PM »
Much of this is overblown moral panic, this shit is in no way the norm so far as I'm aware. I taught a few years at a middling US university a while back and the biggest concern should be how ****** obtuse the average American undergraduate seems to be. Not in terms of politics or any of that stuff, I mean in the sense of "how does this person manage to wash, get dressed, and make it out the door?" This board makes a lot more sense when you've experienced this.

***** I've taught grad students as well and it's gobsmacking how few can put together a coherent sentence.
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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #136 on: September 18, 2018, 07:55:59 AM »
white supremacists and armed lunatics (who are also most probably white supremacists)

After they've accused far left progressive and Occupy Wall street veteran Bret Weinstein of being a white supremacist and racist, how can you take any of these claims seriously?

Also, LOL, enrollment down 70%:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mOdVQKK0_c

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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #137 on: September 18, 2018, 09:44:26 AM »
Freshman enrollment has fallen by 50%. Unfortunately, the president who told the police to stand down while violent leftist mobs drove white people off campus is still in charge.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9UwO5R_-KE
Smaller classes, better educational outcomes.

A 70% smaller student body mean smaller amounts of money coming into the school from tuition. My rough calculations put that reduction in tuition money at about 70%. If this keeps up there's no way they can keep the same number of staff in the school, they won't be able to afford it. (obviously)

It's highly likely Evergreen College will massively downsize in the next few years, if not outright close down.

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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #138 on: September 19, 2018, 07:34:12 PM »
It's highly likely Evergreen College will massively downsize in the next few years, if not outright close down.

Calm down there, Mike, It's not like they will double down on their bigotry, neo-marxism, and post-modernism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3N1YBaYE3w&t=1s

Oh, nevermind...

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Re: Student takeover of Evergreen State College
« Reply #139 on: September 20, 2018, 10:48:38 AM »
Hot trend for 2018: Using "post-modernism/ist" as a blanket term for "people I don't like" when you have no idea what it actually means.


Does "Alinskyite" bring back too many memories of the Obama era? Is "Cultural Marxism" too much of a mouthful? Are you worried that "globalist" will associate you with the AR-15 and Confederate flag brigade? Why not try "post-modernist"? You don't know what it means, but that's okay - neither does your intended audience. Throw it around on your redpill forums and watch your fellow travellers nod along. You could be critiquing the literary works of John Barth, or making a sly nod to the double-standard inherent in the commercialism of sample-based hip-hop music that proudly flaunts a disregard for copyright. Or perhaps Jean-Francois Lyotard is your target. What is it that bothers you - his critique of teleology? Do you support a more Hegelian view?

Anyway, it doesn't matter. What matters is the flimsy veneer of intellectual credibility given to simple tribalist instincts. Jordan Peterson uses this word all the time, and he's like really smart, right?* So just go ahead and throw it around carelessly.

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