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Offline MayorHaggar

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #880 on: August 14, 2017, 12:55:58 PM »
You know what this is? It's like frickin 'Gangs of New York' or two sets of football hooligans from different nations going at each other.

Also, like 'Gangs' the media makes a complete hash of it. Never mind that far-left groups have marched with anti-semitic positions or have instigated violence or are racist against white people, they are being portrayed as the "heroes" and "victims". In case you don't know, the Irish gangs that the film made look like heroes, were the most virulently racist of the bunch and were actually responsible for most of the Draft Riot violence, including the lynching of blacks. But hey, can't have it look like the immigrants are worse than the nativists.

Somehow Trump is responsible for a couple of hundred yahoos showing up to protest something and then a thousand yahoos showing up to beat them up. According to the media this is some sort of mass wave.

I think most Americans are more concerned with preseason and getting their fantasy football team ready. People who are in the world of politics seem to think that everyone is wrapped up in it and gives a shit about it 24-7 and these are dramatic, huge breaking events.

Please, 95% of stuff about Trump is media hype and people's fears taken to a thousand.

Why doesn't Trump criticize Nazis? Because he and you know he'd have no support left if he did.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #881 on: August 14, 2017, 01:21:11 PM »
Saw a news headline: "Alt The President's Men". If Trump's view were a movie waiting to happen that would be it.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #882 on: August 14, 2017, 01:27:21 PM »

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #883 on: August 14, 2017, 01:35:19 PM »
You know what this is? It's like frickin 'Gangs of New York' or two sets of football hooligans from different nations going at each other.

Also, like 'Gangs' the media makes a complete hash of it. Never mind that far-left groups have marched with anti-semitic positions or have instigated violence or are racist against white people, they are being portrayed as the "heroes" and "victims". In case you don't know, the Irish gangs that the film made look like heroes, were the most virulently racist of the bunch and were actually responsible for most of the Draft Riot violence, including the lynching of blacks. But hey, can't have it look like the immigrants are worse than the nativists.

Somehow Trump is responsible for a couple of hundred yahoos showing up to protest something and then a thousand yahoos showing up to beat them up. According to the media this is some sort of mass wave.

I think most Americans are more concerned with preseason and getting their fantasy football team ready. People who are in the world of politics seem to think that everyone is wrapped up in it and gives a shit about it 24-7 and these are dramatic, huge breaking events.

Please, 95% of stuff about Trump is media hype and people's fears taken to a thousand.
You're wrong on all counts.

I'll just address your last point. Right now, all over the US, concerned citizens are organizing rallies against the hate the marchers in Charlottesville and their like are promulgating, emboldened by a president who they helped elect.

And let's face it, by dismissing it in the way you have, you're enabling them. It's not like anybody got killed, right? Oops!



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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #884 on: August 14, 2017, 01:42:03 PM »
You know what this is? It's like frickin 'Gangs of New York' or two sets of football hooligans from different nations going at each other.

Also, like 'Gangs' the media makes a complete hash of it. Never mind that far-left groups have marched with anti-semitic positions or have instigated violence or are racist against white people, they are being portrayed as the "heroes" and "victims". In case you don't know, the Irish gangs that the film made look like heroes, were the most virulently racist of the bunch and were actually responsible for most of the Draft Riot violence, including the lynching of blacks. But hey, can't have it look like the immigrants are worse than the nativists.

Somehow Trump is responsible for a couple of hundred yahoos showing up to protest something and then a thousand yahoos showing up to beat them up. According to the media this is some sort of mass wave.

I think most Americans are more concerned with preseason and getting their fantasy football team ready. People who are in the world of politics seem to think that everyone is wrapped up in it and gives a shit about it 24-7 and these are dramatic, huge breaking events.

Please, 95% of stuff about Trump is media hype and people's fears taken to a thousand.
You're wrong on all counts.

I'll just address your last point. Right now, all over the US, concerned citizens are organizing rallies against the hate the marchers in Charlottesville and their like are promulgating, emboldened by a president who they helped elect.

And let's face it, by dismissing it in the way you have, you're enabling them. It's not like anybody got killed, right? Oops!

Go easy on him, he has difficulty telling the difference between 30-year-old USB fans and 30-year-old battery fans, so how can he form a coherent argument about the base of Trump's support coming from the alt-right and Trump's subsequent silence damning them.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #885 on: August 14, 2017, 01:49:58 PM »
Why doesn't Trump criticize Nazis? Because he and you know he'd have no support left if he did.

Yes, Trump's entire support is based around the 60 million Americans who happen to be secretly Nazis.

I'll just address your last point. Right now, all over the US, concerned citizens are organizing rallies against the hate the marchers in Charlottesville and their like are promulgating, emboldened by a president who they helped elect.

And let's face it, by dismissing it in the way you have, you're enabling them. It's not like anybody got killed, right? Oops!

The anti-Trump hysteria is simultaneously enabling everything. The two sides feed off of each other.

Blaming Trump for some nutjob in a car makes about as much sense as blaming Obama for the guy who shot the police in Dallas.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #886 on: August 14, 2017, 01:53:08 PM »
Just wait. I think the truth will eventually come out about who the real Nazis were in Charlottesville. Who intentionally let the violence escalate so that people couldn't exercise their basic rights? The ACLU has been critical of how the situation was handled by the authorities.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #887 on: August 14, 2017, 01:57:47 PM »
Why doesn't Trump criticize Nazis? Because he and you know he'd have no support left if he did.

Yes, Trump's entire support is based around the 60 million Americans who happen to be secretly Nazis.

Not all of the GOP base are Nazis but all of the Nazis (secret or otherwise) voted for Trump.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #888 on: August 14, 2017, 02:13:45 PM »
Just wait. I think the truth will eventually come out about who the real Nazis were in Charlottesville. Who intentionally let the violence escalate so that people couldn't exercise their basic rights? The ACLU has been critical of how the situation was handled by the authorities.
Yes, in other confrontations of this sort the police have stayed between the opposing groups and prevented things from getting violent. That was not the case in Charlottesville.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #889 on: August 14, 2017, 02:22:27 PM »
Why doesn't Trump criticize Nazis? Because he and you know he'd have no support left if he did.

Yes, Trump's entire support is based around the 60 million Americans who happen to be secretly Nazis.

I'll just address your last point. Right now, all over the US, concerned citizens are organizing rallies against the hate the marchers in Charlottesville and their like are promulgating, emboldened by a president who they helped elect.

And let's face it, by dismissing it in the way you have, you're enabling them. It's not like anybody got killed, right? Oops!

The anti-Trump hysteria is simultaneously enabling everything. The two sides feed off of each other.

Blaming Trump for some nutjob in a car makes about as much sense as blaming Obama for the guy who shot the police in Dallas.
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I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/896420822780444672

Research shows that it was fears of cultural change in the US that motivated folks to vote trump, rather than economic reason as first asserted. And we know what cultural change means right?

You've taken the red pill, haven't you?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #890 on: August 14, 2017, 02:25:22 PM »
Trump's response was one of more sane responses I've heard. AntiFa and BLM did not arrive in Charlottesville with peaceful intentions and by some accounts instigated most of the violence. I'm not sure what the motivations of the guy who drove his car into a group of counter-protesters were. It's clear from one of the videos that his car was being vandalized. He may have panicked and hit the accelerator.

"The critics are guilty of a double standard, and of exploiting the violence for political gain, widening America’s divisions at a time when national unity is the only proper course.

"First of all, as a factual matter, it is self-evident that there was violence on both sides on Saturday, though the attack in which a car plowed into a crowd of left-wing protesters stands apart as a despicable act. Two groups who have been fighting all over the country — white supremacists and so-called 'anti-fascists' — went to Charlottesville to do the same, just as they did last summer in Sacramento, and just as they have elsewhere. Condemning one side alone would essentially have given the other side a pass for its tactics — and a political victory that neither deserved.

"Second, Trump’s critics never applied the same standard to Barack Obama. When five Dallas police officers were murdered in cold blood at a Black Lives Matter protest, Obama did not disavow the movement, nor did the media demand he do so. On the contrary, when he spoke at a memorial service for the police, he actually endorsed the movement and its goals"
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/13/charlottesville-donald-trump-right-condemn-violence-many-sides/
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #891 on: August 14, 2017, 05:15:03 PM »
David Duke:
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I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/896420822780444672

Well if David Duke said it, it must be true.

While The Atlantic certainly gives some food for thought on the culture vs. economics argument with a lean towards culture, it still cites economics in terms of people's views on college and I do think "foreign influence" is to some extent economic, particularly in terms of global trade. Combine this with a piece by 538 and I think it's fair to say that Trump's support had many reasons.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/stop-saying-trumps-win-had-nothing-to-do-with-economics/

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #892 on: August 14, 2017, 05:21:15 PM »
David Duke:
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I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/896420822780444672

Well if David Duke said it, it must be true.

While The Atlantic certainly gives some food for thought on the culture vs. economics argument with a lean towards culture, it still cites economics in terms of people's views on college and I do think "foreign influence" is to some extent economic, particularly in terms of global trade. Combine this with a piece by 538 and I think it's fair to say that Trump's support had many reasons.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/stop-saying-trumps-win-had-nothing-to-do-with-economics/
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #893 on: August 14, 2017, 10:11:22 PM »
Ah yes, "economic anxiety," the current go-to excuse for Nazi violence.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #894 on: August 14, 2017, 10:52:31 PM »
Why doesn't Trump criticize Nazis? Because he and you know he'd have no support left if he did.

Yes, Trump's entire support is based around the 60 million Americans who happen to be secretly Nazis.

I'll just address your last point. Right now, all over the US, concerned citizens are organizing rallies against the hate the marchers in Charlottesville and their like are promulgating, emboldened by a president who they helped elect.

And let's face it, by dismissing it in the way you have, you're enabling them. It's not like anybody got killed, right? Oops!

The anti-Trump hysteria is simultaneously enabling everything. The two sides feed off of each other.

Blaming Trump for some nutjob in a car makes about as much sense as blaming Obama for the guy who shot the police in Dallas.
David Duke:
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I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/896420822780444672

Research shows that it was fears of cultural change in the US that motivated folks to vote trump, rather than economic reason as first asserted. And we know what cultural change means right?

You've taken the red pill, haven't you?


Research also shows that it was people who wrote research shows, when it doesn't, that led people to vote for trump. 
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #895 on: August 15, 2017, 08:25:05 AM »
David Duke:
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I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/896420822780444672

Well if David Duke said it, it must be true.

While The Atlantic certainly gives some food for thought on the culture vs. economics argument with a lean towards culture, it still cites economics in terms of people's views on college and I do think "foreign influence" is to some extent economic, particularly in terms of global trade. Combine this with a piece by 538 and I think it's fair to say that Trump's support had many reasons.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/white-working-class-trump-cultural-anxiety/525771/
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/stop-saying-trumps-win-had-nothing-to-do-with-economics/
I'm sure David Duke would approve this post.

I'm sure Mao, Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Slobodan Milosevic, Cobra Commander, Shredder, Nickelback, Jar Jar Binks, and Cruella DeVille would approve of yours.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #896 on: August 15, 2017, 08:27:31 AM »
Ah yes, "economic anxiety," the current go-to excuse for Nazi violence.

Which is more likely? Trump won because millions of Americans have economic anxiety? Or that millions of Americans are secretly Nazis?

If you think B, you are delusional and experiencing a media-induced hallucination. Go ahead and think that millions of Americans are Nazis and start condemning them all as Nazis. That will turn out well in 2018 and 2020.

How else could the Democrats have lost other than millions of Americans are Nazis?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #897 on: August 15, 2017, 09:49:38 AM »
Ah yes, "economic anxiety," the current go-to excuse for Nazi violence.

Which is more likely? Trump won because millions of Americans have economic anxiety? Or that millions of Americans are secretly Nazis?

If you think B, you are delusional and experiencing a media-induced hallucination. Go ahead and think that millions of Americans are Nazis and start condemning them all as Nazis. That will turn out well in 2018 and 2020.

How else could the Democrats have lost other than millions of Americans are Nazis?
Silly rabbit, one doesn't have to be a neo-nazi to be pro-white and anti-immigrant. The delusions are all yours.

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The number of hate groups in the United States has ticked up since the 2016 presidential campaign began, according to classifications of groups from the Southern Poverty Law Center, an Alabama-based nonprofit activist group that tracks civil rights and hate crimes.
Meanwhile, the number anti-Muslim groups skyrocketed and other types of white nationalist, neo-Nazi and neo-Confederate groups reversed their pattern of decline to tick upward.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #898 on: August 15, 2017, 03:09:24 PM »
Ah yes, "economic anxiety," the current go-to excuse for Nazi violence.

Which is more likely? Trump won because millions of Americans have economic anxiety? Or that millions of Americans are secretly Nazis?

If you think B, you are delusional and experiencing a media-induced hallucination. Go ahead and think that millions of Americans are Nazis and start condemning them all as Nazis. That will turn out well in 2018 and 2020.

How else could the Democrats have lost other than millions of Americans are Nazis?

Wow great way to change the subject there. The problem is that conservative cultists use the "but they just have economic anxiety" sympathetic excuse for anytime some Nazi or other right-wing goon causes violence. Like you're trying to do now. Being worried about your job or your wages doesn't excuse being an actual Nazi.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #899 on: August 15, 2017, 04:32:10 PM »
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President Donald Trump's approval rating hit a new low on Monday, matching former President George W. Bush's low approval ratings when he left office after eight years.

Gallup's daily tracking poll showed Trump with just a 34% approval rating, his lowest since taking office in January, and a 61% disapproval rating.

For perspective, on August 14, 2009, Gallup showed President Barack Obama with a 55% approval rating and a 37% disapproval rating.

Other recent surveys show Trump with a slightly higher approval rating.

Data website FiveThirtyEight's tracker of Trump's approval rating calculates recent polls while considering their reliability and methodology, and on Monday showed the president's approval rating at 37.4% with 56.6% of people disapproving of his performance as president.
Even the repugnicans are turning on him.

Meanwhile Mueller is readying the coffin.