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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2180 on: September 16, 2018, 09:30:14 AM »
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2181 on: September 16, 2018, 09:58:06 AM »
Expect Manafort will be able to assist with corroborating evidence in the quid pro quo for Russian election assistance at that Trump Tower meeting given that he was working unpaid for Trump during the campaign but was instead on the payroll for the Ukraine.
Speculate that Trump Jr would be the next big name indictment.

All this assumes you're capable of ignoring the obfuscation and can connect the dots though. ;D
Far too much to ask of a cult follower and avid Fox news viewer of course.
If itís jaywalking, then youíll act like itís murder.  Not rape because you were ok with bill Clinton raping.
Iíll speculaate itís a huge nothing, and that you all wasted the countryís time for a long time.
Get with the program or lose globalist leftist S*& tards.     Jobs, middle class, a wall,  no illegal immigration, less government waste, no useless wars and fair trade.   Itís all highly desirable, so I canít fathom how anyone can be against it.
And yet the repugs are doing all they can to eviscerate the middle class and to make every job a low paying one. Carping connies like yourself are the ones standing in the way of legislation that would solve illegal immigration.
No useless wars---who invaded Iraq? Why are we still in Afghanistan, burning through millions of dollars each and every day?
Government waste? You mean like ICE?

Where's the infrastructure?

If you are going to go back to Iraq, which was a just war, problem was solved until Obama created isis, then i could go back to opposition to civil rights,  Jim Crow,  slavery.   There was no southern strategy.  That has been debunked.  Just a bunch of racist democrats seeking to get votes by giving away free stuff.
ICE is great.  The problem is that thereís no cooperation at the local level.  Then immigrants pour into the rest of the country.
If someone is deported from the US for being there illegally, then who cares.  If I extend my stay in Korea for two years or even 6 , working illegally, and they catch and deport me, then who is going to cry about me ?  Even Iíll just say well it was nice while it lasted, time to go home.



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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2182 on: September 16, 2018, 01:22:54 PM »
Expect Manafort will be able to assist with corroborating evidence in the quid pro quo for Russian election assistance at that Trump Tower meeting given that he was working unpaid for Trump during the campaign but was instead on the payroll for the Ukraine.
Speculate that Trump Jr would be the next big name indictment.

All this assumes you're capable of ignoring the obfuscation and can connect the dots though. ;D
Far too much to ask of a cult follower and avid Fox news viewer of course.
If itís jaywalking, then youíll act like itís murder.  Not rape because you were ok with bill Clinton raping.
Iíll speculaate itís a huge nothing, and that you all wasted the countryís time for a long time.
Get with the program or lose globalist leftist S*& tards.     Jobs, middle class, a wall,  no illegal immigration, less government waste, no useless wars and fair trade.   Itís all highly desirable, so I canít fathom how anyone can be against it.
And yet the repugs are doing all they can to eviscerate the middle class and to make every job a low paying one. Carping connies like yourself are the ones standing in the way of legislation that would solve illegal immigration.
No useless wars---who invaded Iraq? Why are we still in Afghanistan, burning through millions of dollars each and every day?
Government waste? You mean like ICE?

Where's the infrastructure?

If you are going to go back to Iraq, which was a just war, problem was solved until Obama created isis, then i could go back to opposition to civil rights,  Jim Crow,  slavery.   There was no southern strategy.  That has been debunked.  Just a bunch of racist democrats seeking to get votes by giving away free stuff.
ICE is great.  The problem is that thereís no cooperation at the local level.  Then immigrants pour into the rest of the country.
If someone is deported from the US for being there illegally, then who cares.  If I extend my stay in Korea for two years or even 6 , working illegally, and they catch and deport me, then who is going to cry about me ?  Even Iíll just say well it was nice while it lasted, time to go home.

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner for "Conspiracy Theorist of the Month".

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2183 on: September 16, 2018, 02:59:42 PM »
So Obama not working with al Maliki closely like bush was, and telling him to do what he wanted, which happened to be suppressing sunnis, didn't lead to isis.  Not to mention the quagmire in syria exacerbated the isis problem.
It's not a conspiracy dingbat.  He was weak on foreign policy.  He screwed the pooch.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2184 on: September 16, 2018, 03:47:12 PM »



Don't forget Benghazi Jimbo!

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2185 on: September 16, 2018, 05:52:03 PM »



Don't forget Benghazi Jimbo!
Benghazi wasn't a spontaneous response to a video.  It turned out to be a planned attack.
Holy S);t do you actually think that's fake or a conspiracy? it actually happened unlike this Russian collusion business. 
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2187 on: September 16, 2018, 07:44:23 PM »
Expect Manafort will be able to assist with corroborating evidence in the quid pro quo for Russian election assistance at that Trump Tower meeting given that he was working unpaid for Trump during the campaign but was instead on the payroll for the Ukraine.
Speculate that Trump Jr would be the next big name indictment.

All this assumes you're capable of ignoring the obfuscation and can connect the dots though. ;D
Far too much to ask of a cult follower and avid Fox news viewer of course.
If itís jaywalking, then youíll act like itís murder.  Not rape because you were ok with bill Clinton raping.
Iíll speculaate itís a huge nothing, and that you all wasted the countryís time for a long time.


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That's half wits like you Jimbo. Well done you're easy! :-*

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Who has been charged with crimes   
   
George Papadopoulos
Former campaign adviser
Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with people he believed were working on behalf of Russians (pleaded guilty Oct. 5, 2017)   
Sentenced to 14 days in prison
Sept. 7, 2018

Sam Patten   
Lobbyist linked to Paul Manafort
Failing to register to work as an agent of a foreign power   
Pleaded guilty
Aug. 31, 2018

Paul Manafort   
Former campaign chairman
Tax and bank fraud, false statements, being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal, obstruction of justice   
Convicted of financial fraud
Aug. 21, 2018

Michael D. Cohen   
Mr. Trumpís former lawyer
Tax evasion, bank fraud, campaign finance violations   
Pleaded guilty
Aug. 21, 2018

Alex van der Zwaan   
Lawyer who worked with Mr. Manafort and Mr. Gates
Lying to investigators about conversations with Mr. Gates (pleaded guilty Feb. 20, 2018)   
Sentenced to 30 days in prison
April 3, 2018

Rick Gates   
Former campaign adviser
Financial fraud and lying to the F.B.I.   
Pleaded guilty
Feb. 23, 2018

Richard Pinedo
California man who sold bank accounts online
Identity fraud   
Pleaded guilty
Feb. 12, 2018

Michael T. Flynn   
Former national security adviser
Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with the Russian ambassador   
Pleaded guilty
Dec. 1, 2017

Thirteen Russian nationals   
and three related companies
Conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft
   
 Konstantin V. Kilimnik   
Russian Army-trained linguist and associate of Mr. Manafort
Obstruction of justice   

 Twelve Russian intelligence officers   
Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/21/us/mueller-trump-charges.html

You do realize that if you actually break down the specifics of those cases and what crimes they've been convicted of, you realize two things 1) None of them are linked to Trump and Collusion with Russia and 2) A lot of them are process crimes. That's not to say what they did was excusable, but it doesn't affect Trump's guilt.

The one crime that is linked to Trump is Cohen's confession to something that quite possibly might not be a crime and is certainly suspect on a host of grounds- attorney-client privilege, whether there was any intent to commit a crime by Trump since he was acting on advice of counsel, and so on.

You have to really look at the specifics and understand what is being charged. There's a reason even some Democrats and Trump-loathing reporters are saying impeachment and collusion are light-years away. Well, those that aren't chasing ratings and attention at least.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2188 on: September 16, 2018, 11:45:36 PM »

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2189 on: September 17, 2018, 09:01:08 AM »
Expect Manafort will be able to assist with corroborating evidence in the quid pro quo for Russian election assistance at that Trump Tower meeting given that he was working unpaid for Trump during the campaign but was instead on the payroll for the Ukraine.
Speculate that Trump Jr would be the next big name indictment.

All this assumes you're capable of ignoring the obfuscation and can connect the dots though. ;D
Far too much to ask of a cult follower and avid Fox news viewer of course.
If itís jaywalking, then youíll act like itís murder.  Not rape because you were ok with bill Clinton raping.
Iíll speculaate itís a huge nothing, and that you all wasted the countryís time for a long time.
Get with the program or lose globalist leftist S*& tards.     Jobs, middle class, a wall,  no illegal immigration, less government waste, no useless wars and fair trade.   Itís all highly desirable, so I canít fathom how anyone can be against it.
And yet the repugs are doing all they can to eviscerate the middle class and to make every job a low paying one. Carping connies like yourself are the ones standing in the way of legislation that would solve illegal immigration.
No useless wars---who invaded Iraq? Why are we still in Afghanistan, burning through millions of dollars each and every day?
Government waste? You mean like ICE?

Where's the infrastructure?

If you are going to go back to Iraq, which was a just war, problem was solved until Obama created isis, then i could go back to opposition to civil rights,  Jim Crow,  slavery.   There was no southern strategy.  That has been debunked.  Just a bunch of racist democrats seeking to get votes by giving away free stuff.
ICE is great.  The problem is that thereís no cooperation at the local level.  Then immigrants pour into the rest of the country.
If someone is deported from the US for being there illegally, then who cares.  If I extend my stay in Korea for two years or even 6 , working illegally, and they catch and deport me, then who is going to cry about me ?  Even Iíll just say well it was nice while it lasted, time to go home.
ISIS was created in the prisons set up under Bush. The southern strategy is as real as the teeth, all two, three? of them, in your head.

ICE is out of control.

You sure are silly.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2190 on: September 17, 2018, 09:03:41 AM »
So Obama not working with al Maliki closely like bush was, and telling him to do what he wanted, which happened to be suppressing sunnis, didn't lead to isis.  Not to mention the quagmire in syria exacerbated the isis problem.
It's not a conspiracy dingbat.  He was weak on foreign policy.  He screwed the pooch.
The pooch was long dead--killed by bush and cheney's mistakes. Obama was left with cleaning up their mess(es).

Things are just peachy in Syria under your boy trump, aren't they?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2191 on: September 17, 2018, 09:06:27 AM »
Expect Manafort will be able to assist with corroborating evidence in the quid pro quo for Russian election assistance at that Trump Tower meeting given that he was working unpaid for Trump during the campaign but was instead on the payroll for the Ukraine.
Speculate that Trump Jr would be the next big name indictment.

All this assumes you're capable of ignoring the obfuscation and can connect the dots though. ;D
Far too much to ask of a cult follower and avid Fox news viewer of course.
If itís jaywalking, then youíll act like itís murder.  Not rape because you were ok with bill Clinton raping.
Iíll speculaate itís a huge nothing, and that you all wasted the countryís time for a long time.


 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:



That's half wits like you Jimbo. Well done you're easy! :-*

Quote
Who has been charged with crimes   
   
George Papadopoulos
Former campaign adviser
Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with people he believed were working on behalf of Russians (pleaded guilty Oct. 5, 2017)   
Sentenced to 14 days in prison
Sept. 7, 2018

Sam Patten   
Lobbyist linked to Paul Manafort
Failing to register to work as an agent of a foreign power   
Pleaded guilty
Aug. 31, 2018

Paul Manafort   
Former campaign chairman
Tax and bank fraud, false statements, being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal, obstruction of justice   
Convicted of financial fraud
Aug. 21, 2018

Michael D. Cohen   
Mr. Trumpís former lawyer
Tax evasion, bank fraud, campaign finance violations   
Pleaded guilty
Aug. 21, 2018

Alex van der Zwaan   
Lawyer who worked with Mr. Manafort and Mr. Gates
Lying to investigators about conversations with Mr. Gates (pleaded guilty Feb. 20, 2018)   
Sentenced to 30 days in prison
April 3, 2018

Rick Gates   
Former campaign adviser
Financial fraud and lying to the F.B.I.   
Pleaded guilty
Feb. 23, 2018

Richard Pinedo
California man who sold bank accounts online
Identity fraud   
Pleaded guilty
Feb. 12, 2018

Michael T. Flynn   
Former national security adviser
Lying to the F.B.I. about conversations with the Russian ambassador   
Pleaded guilty
Dec. 1, 2017

Thirteen Russian nationals   
and three related companies
Conspiracy to defraud the U.S., conspiracy to commit bank fraud, identity theft
   
 Konstantin V. Kilimnik   
Russian Army-trained linguist and associate of Mr. Manafort
Obstruction of justice   

 Twelve Russian intelligence officers   
Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, identity theft, conspiracy to launder money

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/08/21/us/mueller-trump-charges.html

You do realize that if you actually break down the specifics of those cases and what crimes they've been convicted of, you realize two things 1) None of them are linked to Trump and Collusion with Russia and 2) A lot of them are process crimes. That's not to say what they did was excusable, but it doesn't affect Trump's guilt.

The one crime that is linked to Trump is Cohen's confession to something that quite possibly might not be a crime and is certainly suspect on a host of grounds- attorney-client privilege, whether there was any intent to commit a crime by Trump since he was acting on advice of counsel, and so on.

You have to really look at the specifics and understand what is being charged. There's a reason even some Democrats and Trump-loathing reporters are saying impeachment and collusion are light-years away. Well, those that aren't chasing ratings and attention at least.
Everyone except the trump lovers and even they have gone from it wasn't collusion to collusion isn't a crime to well collusion happens all the time in their defense of trumpy knows there was collusion.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2192 on: September 18, 2018, 09:58:15 AM »
The trump tax hikes are coming:

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The new tariffs will raise the cost of thousands of everyday items, including electronics, appliances, bicycles, tires, toys, clothing and footwear. Based on last yearís level of imports, the new China tariffs amount to a tax hike of $32.5 billion per year. If the latest set of tariffs rises to 25% and stays in place for 2019, the total additional tax would be $62.5 billion next year. The Trump tax cuts, by contrast, lowered tax payments by about $130 billion per year. So by this simple math, the China tariffs would offset about one-fourth of the Trump tax cuts this year, and nearly one-half next year.

If that's helping the middle class and the working man, then I'm a monkey's uncle.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2193 on: September 18, 2018, 01:29:33 PM »
The trump tax hikes are coming:

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The new tariffs will raise the cost of thousands of everyday items, including electronics, appliances, bicycles, tires, toys, clothing and footwear. Based on last yearís level of imports, the new China tariffs amount to a tax hike of $32.5 billion per year. If the latest set of tariffs rises to 25% and stays in place for 2019, the total additional tax would be $62.5 billion next year. The Trump tax cuts, by contrast, lowered tax payments by about $130 billion per year. So by this simple math, the China tariffs would offset about one-fourth of the Trump tax cuts this year, and nearly one-half next year.

If that's helping the middle class and the working man, then I'm a monkey's uncle.
You are a monkeyís uncle.   
This is a tax on products coming from China.  Who cares if the consumer has to pay more.  Itís  more important that jobs are created and for every billion dollars that we donít import we gain 1000s of jobs. 
We need to consume less and smarter anyways.
If you are a liberal then you shouldnít care about tariffs and defending the Chinese who harvest the organs of political dissidents, youíd be missing your corneas by now.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2194 on: September 18, 2018, 07:39:12 PM »
The trump tax hikes are coming:

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The new tariffs will raise the cost of thousands of everyday items, including electronics, appliances, bicycles, tires, toys, clothing and footwear. Based on last yearís level of imports, the new China tariffs amount to a tax hike of $32.5 billion per year. If the latest set of tariffs rises to 25% and stays in place for 2019, the total additional tax would be $62.5 billion next year. The Trump tax cuts, by contrast, lowered tax payments by about $130 billion per year. So by this simple math, the China tariffs would offset about one-fourth of the Trump tax cuts this year, and nearly one-half next year.

If that's helping the middle class and the working man, then I'm a monkey's uncle.
You are a monkeyís uncle.   
This is a tax on products coming from China.  Who cares if the consumer has to pay more.  Itís  more important that jobs are created and for every billion dollars that we donít import we gain 1000s of jobs. 
We need to consume less and smarter anyways.
If you are a liberal then you shouldnít care about tariffs and defending the Chinese who harvest the organs of political dissidents, youíd be missing your corneas by now.
Most everyone cares.

As for consuming less, give us some examples of exactly how you're doing that.

You don't use your eyes, so what does it matter to you?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2195 on: September 19, 2018, 08:06:41 AM »
Feinstein just blasted Trump and the FBI for not doing enough to investigate this.

After she had sat on the letter for weeks until springing it at the last second.

Shitpit indeed.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2196 on: September 19, 2018, 08:14:01 AM »
Feinstein just blasted Trump and the FBI for not doing enough to investigate this.

After she had sat on the letter for weeks until springing it at the last second.

Shitpit indeed.

Out of respect for the wishes of the victim. Didn't Grassley know about it, too?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2197 on: September 19, 2018, 08:19:21 AM »
Feinstein just blasted Trump and the FBI for not doing enough to investigate this.

After she had sat on the letter for weeks until springing it at the last second.

Shitpit indeed.

Out of respect for the wishes of the victim. Didn't Grassley know about it, too?

Then it mysteriously gets leaked? You buy that explanation I have a bridge to sell you.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2198 on: September 19, 2018, 11:54:36 AM »
Feinstein just blasted Trump and the FBI for not doing enough to investigate this.

After she had sat on the letter for weeks until springing it at the last second.

Shitpit indeed.

Out of respect for the wishes of the victim. Didn't Grassley know about it, too?

Then it mysteriously gets leaked? You buy that explanation I have a bridge to sell you.
Don't care. It's about time the Dems did something to fight back against these smarmy Republicans, even if it was kinda lame.  Remember Merrick Garland?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #2199 on: September 19, 2018, 12:10:25 PM »
Don't care. It's about time the Dems did something to fight back against these smarmy Republicans, even if it was kinda lame.  Remember Merrick Garland?
Remember Harry Reid killing the filibuster rule?