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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1960 on: June 30, 2018, 11:19:14 AM »
trump's attacks on the media--"our greatest enemy"--may have pushed him over the edge. Why after all this time go postal?
The same reason as everyone else who went postal before Trump- long-simmering anger finally boiled over.

Do you seriously think a guy utterly obsessed with his defamation suit, listened to Trump and suddenly went "Well, I guess it's okay for me to go shoot the media now!". Give me a break.

He used a shotgun. I guess we have to ban shotguns now. So much for Joe Biden and his "fire a couple of blasts in the air"
I don't know; that's why I brought up the possibility.

But I will acknowledge your very personal experience with the mentally ill. And at jumping to conclusions that fit your narrative. And your presumptions of god-like omniscience.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1961 on: June 30, 2018, 10:00:14 PM »
Let's not overlook the NRA re this latest shooting:

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The NRA released a video containing a threatening message to journalists warning them "your time is running out" in March. In a video posted on Twitter by NRATV, Ms Loesch tells “every lying member of the media” that they have “had enough”.

Set to a backing track of ominous-sounding guitar music, she appears on screen dressed in black with an hourglass by her side.

“We have had enough of the lies, the sanctimony, the arrogance, the hatred, the pettiness, the fake news. We are done with your agenda to undermine voters' will and individual liberty in America.”

“So to every lying member of the media, to every Hollywood phoney, to the role model athletes who use their free speech to alter and undermine what our flag represents.

"To the politicians who would rather watch America burn than lose one ounce of their own personal power, to the late night posts that think their opinion is the only opinions that matter.

“To the Joy-Ann Reids, the Morning Joes, the Mikas. To those who stain honest reporting with partisanship. To those who bring bias and propaganda to CNN, The Washington Post and The New York Times… your time is running out. The clock starts now."

And this:

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Ms Loesch, who is a spokesperson for the largest gun lobbying group in the US, said: “I’m happy frankly to see them curb-stomped. I mean let's be real about it.”

“These people are just the worst thing that could ever possibly happen to the American political system right now with the way that they cover so many things. Nobody gets a fair shake on policy, no one gets a fair shake where it concerns immigration. They conflate illegal and legal immigration.

“They conflate a number of things – particularly the coverage on gun control. I have so many things that I hate about mainstream media, there is no way we are going to fit it in the allotted time today. They are the rat bastards of the earth. They are the boil on the backside of American politics.”

Journalists in the US have a target on their backs. The US seems to be devolving into a third-world country.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1962 on: July 02, 2018, 11:00:09 AM »
trump's attacks on the media--"our greatest enemy"--may have pushed him over the edge. Why after all this time go postal?
The same reason as everyone else who went postal before Trump- long-simmering anger finally boiled over.

Do you seriously think a guy utterly obsessed with his defamation suit, listened to Trump and suddenly went "Well, I guess it's okay for me to go shoot the media now!". Give me a break.

He used a shotgun. I guess we have to ban shotguns now. So much for Joe Biden and his "fire a couple of blasts in the air"
I don't know; that's why I brought up the possibility.

Strange analogy:

I bet if Trump had a long standing problem with ginger-haired people and in his rallies he kept on saying that ginger-haired people were one of the problems in the modern day, I can safely say that violence against ginger-haired people would increase.  The fact he keeps on about how the news is 'fake' and in his rallies he talks about violence against people and groups, that has an effect on some people.  Martin's problem, as usual, is that he doesn't see any grey in this.  He has a black/white way of thinking.  The guy had problems with the paper in the past so that is the only reason that he decided to use violence against them, even though his problems with the paper go back to 2012.  There must be something in the political climate that makes him think it was ok to do this now.  Since Trump has come in and says what the hell he likes in his tweets, (Mexicans are rapists and murderers to name one), others think it's fair game too and they'll get away with it, (Roseanne being an example) but it doesn't work like that.  His words and his actions have ramifications and influence people, no matter how much Martin thinks they don't.  People are not smart, some people can't think for themselves, those are the people that Trump is trying to influence the most. He lies constantly, but it doesn't matter to the 'poorly-educated' because they don't bother with the facts, they just believe what is pumped into their brains from the tv.  This is before we get back onto the gun debate, again......
To paraphrase George Carlin, think how stupid the average American is and then think about all those less than average ones.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1963 on: July 04, 2018, 05:01:45 AM »
More evidence of collusion between the Chump campaign and Russians.


Russian charged with Trump’s ex-campaign chief is key figure

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The records show that Kilimnik participated in an early Manafort plan to influence Western politicians and media outlets. Officially, the project — known as Eurasia21 — would offer news and expertise on former Soviet states. Unofficially, it would be a propaganda operation intended to target Washington and European capitals and “train a cadre of leaders who can be relied upon in future governments,” according to one memo.

https://apnews.com/f498ec3fec8c4100b5751beb3bf9b2d0?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

So the latest inditement is for Kilimnik, the swarmy looking bugger on the left sporting a red tie.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1964 on: July 04, 2018, 05:26:24 AM »
More evidence of collusion between the Chump campaign and Russians.


Russian charged with Trump’s ex-campaign chief is key figure

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The records show that Kilimnik participated in an early Manafort plan to influence Western politicians and media outlets. Officially, the project — known as Eurasia21 — would offer news and expertise on former Soviet states. Unofficially, it would be a propaganda operation intended to target Washington and European capitals and “train a cadre of leaders who can be relied upon in future governments,” according to one memo.

https://apnews.com/f498ec3fec8c4100b5751beb3bf9b2d0?utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

So the latest inditement is for Kilimnik, the swarmy looking bugger on the left sporting a red tie.


Don't forget the Brexit guys. Evidence is mounting against them as well and they were connected to t's campaign.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1965 on: July 04, 2018, 10:43:55 AM »
"WASHINGTON—The Trump administration will begin directing schools and colleges to adopt race-neutral admissions standards, the Education Department said Tuesday, reversing Obama-era guidelines that encouraged the use of race to promote diversity."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-to-rescind-obama-era-guidelines-on-race-in-college-admissions-1530619273

"The Trump administration is trying to make it easier for banks, landlords and insurance companies to discriminate against minority homeowners and tenants. Anna Maria Farías, an assistant secretary at HUD, is asking for comments on possible revisions that could 'add clarity' and 'reduce uncertainty' on a HUD rule based on a legal theory the Obama administration and its predecessors used to prove discrimination cases. The theory, 'disparate impact analysis,' measures discrimination, such as African-Americans paying higher interest rates on loans, without having to prove an intent to discriminate."
https://www.salon.com/2018/07/02/trump-administration-now-has-fair-housing-in-its-sights_partner/

"As the national immigration debate swirls around the effort to discourage illegal immigration by separating families at the border, the Trump administration is making inroads into another longtime priority: reducing legal immigration.... Among the most affected are the Muslim-majority countries on the president’s travel ban list — Yemen, Syria, Iran, Libya and Somalia — where the number of new arrivals to the United States is heading toward an 81 percent drop by Sept. 30, the end of the second fiscal year under Trump."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/how-trump-is-changing-the-face-of-legal-immigration/2018/07/02/477c78b2-65da-11e8-99d2-0d678ec08c2f_story.html

Trump: the gift that keeps on giving.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1966 on: July 04, 2018, 11:11:29 AM »
There is a real possibility that Roe v. Wade could be overturned after Trump replaces Justice Kennedy with someone who is more conservative.

"Kennedy, who was a pivotal swing vote in some of the most controversial rulings of the past 30 years, consistently upheld abortion rights during his tenure. But President Donald Trump campaigned on a promise to select Supreme Court nominees who would 'automatically' overturn Roe v. Wade, the landmark 1973 ruling that established the constitutional right to an abortion."
http://time.com/5325124/justice-anthony-kennedy-supreme-court-roe-v-wade-overturned/

How about gay marriage too? Both issues would be better handled by the states.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1967 on: July 04, 2018, 11:20:53 AM »
How about gay marriage too? Both issues would be better handled by the states.


Like voting rights?

Susan Collins has said that she won't vote for anyone who doesn't strongly support of abortion rights. Sounds like Lisa Murkowski might also be hard to convince if the nominee is too far right on the issue. The problem is Democrats are not guaranteed to vote as a bloc on this one.

Anyways, medical advances may soon allow us to move beyond this as a wedge issue.

'Bulwark Against an Abortion Ban? Medical Advances'
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/01/science/abortion-supreme-court-trump.html

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1968 on: July 04, 2018, 12:26:36 PM »
How about gay marriage too? Both issues would be better handled by the states.


Like voting rights?

Susan Collins has said that she won't vote for anyone who doesn't strongly support of abortion rights. Sounds like Lisa Murkowski might also be hard to convince if the nominee is too far right on the issue. The problem is Democrats are not guaranteed to vote as a bloc on this one.

Anyways, medical advances may soon allow us to move beyond this as a wedge issue.

'Bulwark Against an Abortion Ban? Medical Advances'
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/01/science/abortion-supreme-court-trump.html
Yup. Tech seems like something that could make abortion pretty much a moot point in 10-20 years.

Anyways, I think fears of the U.S. suddenly banning abortion and it turning into the Handmaid's Tale are overblown. Add it to another in a long list of "Apocalyptic Doom" predictions regarding Trump that have or will fail to come true.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1969 on: July 04, 2018, 06:45:14 PM »
Maybe the US could take a page from Korea on the issue. Make it broadly illegal to placate the Lifers, widely available and exceedingly safe to placate the Choicers (and the Lifers who would like personal exemptions). Is anyone ever prosecuted for abortions here?  In other words, make it just like Korean street parking!

Who am I kidding; Americans are too insane for compromise.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1970 on: July 04, 2018, 11:56:42 PM »
Maybe the US could take a page from Korea on the issue. Make it broadly illegal to placate the Lifers, widely available and exceedingly safe to placate the Choicers (and the Lifers who would like personal exemptions). Is anyone ever prosecuted for abortions here?  In other words, make it just like Korean street parking!

Who am I kidding; Americans are too insane for compromise.
Speaking of insanity:

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As a meeting last August in the Oval Office to discuss sanctions on Venezuela was concluding, President Donald Trump turned to his top aides and asked an unsettling question: With a fast unraveling Venezuela threatening regional security, why can't the U.S. just simply invade the troubled country?

The suggestion stunned those present at the meeting, including U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and national security adviser H.R. McMaster, both of whom have since left the administration. This account of the previously undisclosed conversation comes from a senior administration official familiar with what was said.

No wonder he considers Crimea Russian.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1971 on: July 06, 2018, 07:48:21 AM »
Finally, that arrogant shit-bag Pruitt has gone.   (unrelenting attacks)  :laugh:

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I have accepted the resignation of Scott Pruitt as the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency. Within the Agency Scott has done an outstanding job, and I will always be thankful to him for this. The Senate confirmed Deputy at EPA, Andrew Wheeler, will......on Monday assume duties as the acting Administrator of the EPA. I have no doubt that Andy will continue on with our great and lasting EPA agenda. We have made tremendous progress and the future of the EPA is very bright!

Trump may think the EPA future looks bright, but now having a former coal lobbyist, will darken the 'bright' skies soon enough.

Good grief, that took long enough, but I'm glad that circus has finally pulled up the stakes. Too bad his wife never got that Chik-a-Filet franchise or six-figure fund raising gig they were after; I wonder how they're going to pay for ensuing legal fees. Yeah, acting administrator is a former coal lobbyist, and that's just the interim!

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1972 on: July 06, 2018, 08:04:46 AM »
Finally, that arrogant shit-bag Pruitt has gone.   (unrelenting attacks)  :laugh:

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I have accepted the resignation of Scott Pruitt as the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency. Within the Agency Scott has done an outstanding job, and I will always be thankful to him for this. The Senate confirmed Deputy at EPA, Andrew Wheeler, will......on Monday assume duties as the acting Administrator of the EPA. I have no doubt that Andy will continue on with our great and lasting EPA agenda. We have made tremendous progress and the future of the EPA is very bright!

Trump may think the EPA future looks bright, but now having a former coal lobbyist, will darken the 'bright' skies soon enough.

Another swamp monster gone but yet many still remain including Agent Orange.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1973 on: July 07, 2018, 02:23:05 AM »
The guy replacing him is just as bad regarding the environment and not nearly as corrupt so the war on clean air and water and the national parks will continue.

The US's march to third world status will continue as long as drumpf is in office.

Vote Dem in November.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1974 on: July 09, 2018, 10:22:39 PM »
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Donald Trump will almost entirely avoid London during his four-day visit to the UK next week, Downing Street has said, unveiling an itinerary that is likely to prompt accusations he is trying to avoid planned protests against him.

Details about what Trump will do in Scotland will be released next week, but No 10 has described the leg as “a private element of the official visit”. There is widespread speculation he will spend part of it playing golf.

While he is in the capital, a giant “Trump baby” balloon, caricaturing him as a nappy-wearing infant, will be flown in the sky over Westminster after the Greater London Authority (GLA) granted the creators permission.


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But political allies and acolytes of Mr Trump have slammed the stunt. Republicans Overseas spokesman Drew Liquerman called it “cringeworthy”.
He said: “It’s embarrassing. It’s embarrassing for the people flying it, for the British residents of London and for people in the UK.”

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Nigel Farage, the former Ukip leader, said: “This is the biggest insult to a sitting US president ever. Would this be happening if it was Obama? Makes London look ridiculous.”

Heavens above, Conservatives are so, erm, so fragile sometimes.  I doubt the London residents are really that bothered.  In fact, I'm sure they're quite proud of it.  :cheesy:

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Anti-Trump campaigners say their inflatable baby is a form of peaceful protest. They say the blimp reflects Mr Trump’s character as an “angry baby with a fragile ego and small hands”.

I'm not the most Britain-loving of people, but sometimes, we do come up with good stuff.
Liquerman should have a good stiff drink and STFU.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1975 on: July 09, 2018, 10:24:19 PM »
Wow just wow!

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Advocates for improved nutrition for babies have expressed outrage over reports that the Trump administration bullied other governments in an attempt to prevent the passage of an international resolution promoting breastfeeding.

The US delegation to the World Health Assembly in Geneva reportedly deployed threats and other heavy-handed measures to try and browbeat nations into backing off the resolution.

Breastfeeding?  Against breastfeeding?

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The administration also used its network of diplomats to lean on member states. Turning on the delegation from Ecuador, the US government said that unless the South American nation withdrew its backing of the resolution it would face punitive trade moves and even the potential loss of military help in its battle against gang violence.

Bullying South American countries too.

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Lucy Sullivan, executive director of 1,000 Days, the US-headquartered international group working to improve nutrition for babies and infants, said in a Twitter thread that the US intervention amounted to “public health versus private profit. What is at stake: breastfeeding saves women and children’s lives. It is also bad for the multibillion-dollar global infant formula (and dairy) business.”

There we have it. 

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Patti Rundall of the UK-based campaign Baby Milk Action told the New York Times: “We were astonished, appalled and also saddened. What happened was tantamount to blackmail, with the US holding the world hostage and trying to overturn nearly 40 years of consensus on best way to protect infant and young child health.”

Under an internal code of the World Health Organisation, baby formula companies are banned from explicitly targeting mothers and their health carers. Advertising is also controlled.

A plethora of studies have shown the stark health improvements brought about by breastfeeding in the US and around the world. A Harvard study in 2016 estimated that 3,340 premature deaths a year among both mothers and babies could be prevented in the US alone given adequate breastfeeding.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/08/trump-administration-opposes-breastfeeding-resolution-report

I'm not going to say a new low, because the Trump administration always finds a way to go lower...
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1976 on: July 09, 2018, 10:43:26 PM »
Do as I say, not a I do, the repugnican motto:

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Donald Trump’s tariffs on Chinese goods won’t touch Ivanka Trump’s foreign-made products for her fashion line.

While Trump rails at Harley-Davidson motorcycles for moving some production to Europe to dodge EU tariffs, the first daughter and senior White House adviser has never manufactured a single product for her Ivanka Trump brand on American soil.

Trump enacted tariffs Friday morning on $34 billion worth of Chinese goods, affecting hundreds of products from boats to medical devices and auto parts. Products spared include those manufactured by his daughter.

That means Chengdu Kameido Shoes in Sichuan province can continue to supply shoes for the Ivanka Trump brand as it has in the past. It’s currently bidding for a new contract to manufacture 140,000 pairs of shoes for Trump’s company, a spokesman told The South China Morning Post.

Hypocrisy, thy name is drumpf.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1977 on: July 11, 2018, 09:39:13 AM »
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We’re doing something new: analyzing every factual claim from President Trump’s campaign rally in Montana on Thursday.

According to The Fact Checker’s database, the president had made 3,251 false or misleading claims at the end of May, and his average daily rate was climbing.

This side of Trump really comes alive during campaign rallies, so we wanted to do the math and find out whether the president speaks more fictions or facts in front of his crowds.

We focused only on Trump’s statements of material fact at the Montana rally, avoiding trivialities and opinions. We didn’t double-count statements when the president repeated himself.

According to our analysis, the truth took a beating in Montana. From a grand total of 98 factual statements we identified, 76 percent were false, misleading or unsupported by evidence.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/07/10/anatomy-of-a-trump-rally-76-percent-of-claims-are-false-misleading-or-lacking-evidence/?utm_term=.7f57c37fef62

Now people aren't sure who is scarier, Trump or his supporters. 

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Trump praised him in personal terms: “Boris Johnson is a friend of mine. He’s been very, very nice to me and very supportive. And maybe we’ll speak to him when I get over there. I like Boris Johnson. I’ve always liked him.”

That's it!  :rolleyes:  Ask any British person what they think of Boris Johnson and you'll probably not be able to post any of them.
Maybe him and boris tripped the light fantastic together, along with a few dozen teen age girls rounded up for the occasion.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1978 on: July 13, 2018, 11:29:18 AM »
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Donald Trump hailed Boris Johnson as a future prime minister, accused the London mayor, Sadiq Khan, of doing “a bad job” on terrorism and said there had been too much immigration in Europe in an incendiary interview that raised questions about the decision to invite him to Britain.

Trump described Johnson as “a very talented guy” for whom he had “a lot of respect”. He claimed he was not trying to pit Johnson against his host, but added: “I am just saying I think he would be a great prime minister. I think he’s got what it takes.”

“Take a look at the terrorism that is taking place. Look at what is going on in London,” Trump said, before referring directly to Khan: “I think he has done a very bad job on terrorism. I think he has done a bad job on crime, if you look, all of the horrible things going on there, with all of the crime that is being brought in.”

Trump even appeared to hold Khan personally responsible for immigration in Europe, in comments that were particularly inflammatory. “I think allowing millions and millions of people to come into Europe is very, very sad. I look at cities in Europe, and I can be specific if you’d like. You have a mayor who has done a terrible job in London. He has done a terrible job.”

“If they do a deal like that, we would be dealing with the European Union instead of dealing with the UK, so it will probably kill the deal. If they do that, then their trade deal with the US will probably not be made,” he said.

“We have enough difficulty with the European Union. We are cracking down right now on the European Union because they have not treated the United States fairly on trading.”



“They like me a lot in the UK. I think they agree with me on immigration.”

Brits hate you fuuckwit!  May invites you to Britain and you continue your asshole behaviour.  Who thinks that he wanted to play golf in Scotland and as then decided to chuck in a visit to May on top of that?

Many probably like him.  But who cares ?   You can say that about any public figure, that they don’t like him.  My black British friend said that obama resembled hitler.

This is more shaming average Americans for having trump as president.  It’s a dirty trick .  We could do the same for Sadie khan or Trudeau , but we don’t because we are not rude or more likely don’t care or know about those fools .
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1979 on: July 13, 2018, 09:08:32 PM »
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Donald Trump hailed Boris Johnson as a future prime minister, accused the London mayor, Sadiq Khan, of doing “a bad job” on terrorism and said there had been too much immigration in Europe in an incendiary interview that raised questions about the decision to invite him to Britain.

Trump described Johnson as “a very talented guy” for whom he had “a lot of respect”. He claimed he was not trying to pit Johnson against his host, but added: “I am just saying I think he would be a great prime minister. I think he’s got what it takes.”

“Take a look at the terrorism that is taking place. Look at what is going on in London,” Trump said, before referring directly to Khan: “I think he has done a very bad job on terrorism. I think he has done a bad job on crime, if you look, all of the horrible things going on there, with all of the crime that is being brought in.”

Trump even appeared to hold Khan personally responsible for immigration in Europe, in comments that were particularly inflammatory. “I think allowing millions and millions of people to come into Europe is very, very sad. I look at cities in Europe, and I can be specific if you’d like. You have a mayor who has done a terrible job in London. He has done a terrible job.”

“If they do a deal like that, we would be dealing with the European Union instead of dealing with the UK, so it will probably kill the deal. If they do that, then their trade deal with the US will probably not be made,” he said.

“We have enough difficulty with the European Union. We are cracking down right now on the European Union because they have not treated the United States fairly on trading.”



“They like me a lot in the UK. I think they agree with me on immigration.”

Brits hate you fuuckwit!  May invites you to Britain and you continue your asshole behaviour.  Who thinks that he wanted to play golf in Scotland and as then decided to chuck in a visit to May on top of that?

Many probably like him.  But who cares ?   You can say that about any public figure, that they don’t like him.  My black British friend said that obama resembled hitler.

This is more shaming average Americans for having trump as president.  It’s a dirty trick .  We could do the same for Sadie khan or Trudeau , but we don’t because we are not rude or more likely don’t care or know about those fools .
Trumpists (including yourself?) are ignorant. Who woulda thunk it?

Thanks for the info, jimbo.