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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1640 on: May 08, 2018, 11:26:17 AM »
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If the police would stop shooting innocent blacks

Do you want them to stop shooting innocent white guys too, or is it only the black guys you want to save?
One doesn't hear too much about American police gunning down innocent Caucasians. Does it not happen, or does it just not make the news?

Probably, just the ones high on Meth. Not too many unarmed whites shot in the back.

This is actually a pretty racist comment. No thought as to individual cases, just the assumption that white guys shot by cops are probably on Meth. Change white for black and meth for crack and you can see how it'd be received. It's probably an indication of how the left in the US really does believe black lives matter and white lives don't. Maybe an 'All lives matter' movement is needed after all.

I thought because of Trump you don't do racism comments?

The meth remark was a little tongue-in-cheek. I forgot to mention whites doing PCP, as well.

Yes, all lives do matter.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1641 on: May 08, 2018, 11:32:08 AM »
Trump's not a racist. It's just that the left has nothing to run on but identity politics. Nobody wants to vote for higher taxes and open borders. So they have to turn everything into a racial issue.

Yes let's repeat this drivel about "identity politics" for the 5000th time in this topic and ignore the fact that Republicans blatantly use identity politics to attack anyone who isn't a racist quasi-fascist like they are.
The last 8 years was all about genders and race and sexuality all day every day. Understandably you’d want to forget.

I know you are but what am i is pee wee Herman’s defense.

The American presidency build up and election is one of, if not the most, tedious and disgusting wastes of time. Where the person elected is the one who has the least shit sticking to them at the end.  Which other 'developed' 'democratic' country has such a ridiculous and disgraceful procedure for electing a 'president'?
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1642 on: May 08, 2018, 12:09:29 PM »
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If the police would stop shooting innocent blacks

Do you want them to stop shooting innocent white guys too, or is it only the black guys you want to save?
One doesn't hear too much about American police gunning down innocent Caucasians. Does it not happen, or does it just not make the news?

Probably, just the ones high on Meth. Not too many unarmed whites shot in the back.
More whites are killed by police , police are brutal with whites.   I’ve seen several videos of police murdering whites .

Here’s the guy in the hotel https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/08/graphic-video-shows-daniel-shaver-sobbing-and-begging-officer-for-his-life-before-2016-shooting/?utm_term=.547e151ebfb4
Yes, the Shaver story is revolting.  I don't doubt more whites are killed by police, but do you suppose it's five times more white than blacks?   Like, you know, proportionally to the population?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1643 on: May 08, 2018, 01:10:18 PM »
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If the police would stop shooting innocent blacks

Do you want them to stop shooting innocent white guys too, or is it only the black guys you want to save?
One doesn't hear too much about American police gunning down innocent Caucasians. Does it not happen, or does it just not make the news?

Probably, just the ones high on Meth. Not too many unarmed whites shot in the back.
More whites are killed by police , police are brutal with whites.   I’ve seen several videos of police murdering whites .

Here’s the guy in the hotel https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/08/graphic-video-shows-daniel-shaver-sobbing-and-begging-officer-for-his-life-before-2016-shooting/?utm_term=.547e151ebfb4
Yes, the Shaver story is revolting.  I don't doubt more whites are killed by police, but do you suppose it's five times more white than blacks?   Like, you know, proportionally to the population?

Men are killed in vastly greater numbers proportionally than women, so?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1644 on: May 09, 2018, 04:53:51 AM »
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If the police would stop shooting innocent blacks

Do you want them to stop shooting innocent white guys too, or is it only the black guys you want to save?
One doesn't hear too much about American police gunning down innocent Caucasians. Does it not happen, or does it just not make the news?

Probably, just the ones high on Meth. Not too many unarmed whites shot in the back.
More whites are killed by police , police are brutal with whites.   I’ve seen several videos of police murdering whites .

Here’s the guy in the hotel https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/08/graphic-video-shows-daniel-shaver-sobbing-and-begging-officer-for-his-life-before-2016-shooting/?utm_term=.547e151ebfb4
Yes, the Shaver story is revolting.  I don't doubt more whites are killed by police, but do you suppose it's five times more white than blacks?   Like, you know, proportionally to the population?

Men are killed in vastly greater numbers proportionally than women, so?

He can claim an association with this group thereby validating his sense of victim-hood. 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/the-rise-of-victimhood-culture/404794/

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1645 on: May 09, 2018, 05:21:56 AM »
Anyways, enough with the deflections already. Let's get this thread back on topic!

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Vladimir Lenin is often credited with coining the phrase “useful idiot” to describe the shallow thinkers in the West who did the Communist Party’s bidding without realizing it. During the Cold War, liberals consistently lived down to the stereotype that they were Soviet dupes, too gullible and weak-minded to see they were buying the rope that would hang them, as Lenin put it. With each passing day, it becomes more and more difficult to avoid the conclusion that the current president of the United States, Donald J. Trump, is either hiding something when it comes to the Kremlin, or simply one of its useful idiots. Neither conclusion is comforting.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1646 on: May 09, 2018, 05:33:04 AM »
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If the police would stop shooting innocent blacks

Do you want them to stop shooting innocent white guys too, or is it only the black guys you want to save?
One doesn't hear too much about American police gunning down innocent Caucasians. Does it not happen, or does it just not make the news?

Probably, just the ones high on Meth. Not too many unarmed whites shot in the back.
More whites are killed by police , police are brutal with whites.   I’ve seen several videos of police murdering whites .

Here’s the guy in the hotel https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/08/graphic-video-shows-daniel-shaver-sobbing-and-begging-officer-for-his-life-before-2016-shooting/?utm_term=.547e151ebfb4
Yes, the Shaver story is revolting.  I don't doubt more whites are killed by police, but do you suppose it's five times more white than blacks?   Like, you know, proportionally to the population?

Men are killed in vastly greater numbers proportionally than women, so?

He can claim an association with this group thereby validating his sense of victim-hood. 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/09/the-rise-of-victimhood-culture/404794/

Ha ha that's pretty funny, Latin Americans having a go at Yanks for trying to culturally appropriate football.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1647 on: May 09, 2018, 06:07:24 AM »
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If the police would stop shooting innocent blacks

Do you want them to stop shooting innocent white guys too, or is it only the black guys you want to save?
One doesn't hear too much about American police gunning down innocent Caucasians. Does it not happen, or does it just not make the news?

Probably, just the ones high on Meth. Not too many unarmed whites shot in the back.
More whites are killed by police , police are brutal with whites.   I’ve seen several videos of police murdering whites .

Here’s the guy in the hotel https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/08/graphic-video-shows-daniel-shaver-sobbing-and-begging-officer-for-his-life-before-2016-shooting/?utm_term=.547e151ebfb4
Yes, the Shaver story is revolting.  I don't doubt more whites are killed by police, but do you suppose it's five times more white than blacks?   Like, you know, proportionally to the population?
Obviously
But then you look at the percentage of crime and existence of ghettos and a black underclass that behaves much differently and then that is negated.   
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« Reply #1648 on: May 09, 2018, 08:14:02 AM »
Soooooo.....Mr 'all about me' pulled out of the Iranian nuclear deal.  Not surprising, that he pulled out of something with nothing to replace it.  It really takes some petty dimwit to be so blinded by his predecessor that he'll do anything to destroy anything, even useful things, that the predecessor laid out.  Now, what country will trust any 'deal' with the US knowing that they will pull out of it on a whim.  If I were North Korea, I'd be watching closely.  Let's hope the other 5 countries forge ahead to stop the middle east from 'blowing up' but hopefully leaving the US out in the cold.  Effing idiot!

Ah yes North Korea the honest broker.   I do think there should be continuity between administrations, that’s why obama shouldn’t have pulled out of Iraq creating a huge isis mess, and for that matter why months after voting for the Iraq war traitors like Kerry and Edwards were using anti Iraq war sentiment to try to win elections. 

In the case of Iran, if they believe that we or Israel will bomb them , then they  will make more concessions than this deal.     Unfortunately this will all be undermined by anti trump Americans who have no idea how bad Iran is.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1649 on: May 09, 2018, 11:19:55 AM »
Trump hammered Hillary Clinton over the Clinton Foundation's "Pay-to-play".

Turns out they're doing it too. All through Michael Cohen's shell company.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/08/att-confirms-it-paid-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-for-insights-on-administration.html

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1650 on: May 09, 2018, 04:24:14 PM »
It's almost as if Trump supporters never really cared about his economic stances the way they said they did, and only ever liked him because of his vile racism.

I still don’t understand how he is racist.    ?

It seems like racism means not agreeing with democrats.
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Here, we have attempted to compile a definitive list of his racist comments – or at least the publicly known ones.
The New York Years

Trump’s real-estate company tried to avoid renting apartments to African-Americans in the 1970s and gave preferential treatment to whites, according to the federal government.

Trump treated black employees at his casinos differently from whites, according to multiple sources. A former hotel executive said Trump criticized a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks.”

In 1989, Trump took out ads in New York newspapers urging the death penalty for five black and Latino teenagers accused of raping a white woman in Central Park; he argued they were guilty as late as October 2016, more than 10 years after DNA evidence had exonerated them.

In 1989, on NBC, Trump said: “I think sometimes a black may think they don’t have an advantage or this and that. I’ve said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I really believe they do have an actual advantage.”
An Obsession With
Dark-Skinned Immigrants

He began his 2016 presidential campaign with a speech disparaging Mexican immigrants as criminals and “rapists.”

He uses the gang MS-13 to disparage all immigrants. Among many other statements, he has suggested that Obama’s protection of the Dreamers — otherwise law-abiding immigrants who were brought to the United States illegally as children — contributed to the spread of MS-13.

In December 2015, Trump called for a “a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States,” including refusing to readmit Muslim-American citizens who were outside of the country at the time.

Trump said a federal judge hearing a case about Trump University was biased because of the judge’s Mexican heritage.

In June 2017, Trump said 15,000 recent immigrants from Haiti “all have AIDS” and that 40,000 Nigerians, once seeing the United States, would never “go back to their huts” in Africa.

At the White House on Jan. 11, Trump vulgarly called for less immigration from Haiti and Africa and more from Norway.
Obama As Unqualified,
Lazy and Un-American

He spent years suggesting that the nation’s first black president was born not in the United States but in Kenya, a lie that Trump still has not acknowledged as such.

Trump called Obama (who was editor in chief of the Harvard Law Review) “a terrible student, terrible.”

Trump frequently claimed that Obama did not work hard as president.

Trump falsely claimed that President Obama “issued a statement for Kwanzaa but failed to issue one for Christmas.”
Urban America As a Hellscape

He often casts heavily black American cities as dystopian war zones. In a 2016 debate with Hillary Clinton, Trump said, “Our inner cities, African Americans, Hispanics are living in hell because it’s so dangerous. You walk down the street, you get shot.” Trump also said to black voters: “You’re living in poverty; your schools are no good; you have no jobs.”

He frequently offers false crime statistics to exaggerate urban crime, including about Oakland, Philadelphia and Ferguson, Mo.

He is quick to highlight crimes committed by dark-skinned people, sometimes exaggerating or lying about them (such as a claim about growing crime from “radical Islamic terror” in Britain). He is very slow to decry hate crimes committed by whites against dark-skinned people (such as the killing of an Indian man in Kansas last year).
Minorities As Uppity
and Ungrateful

He frequently criticizes prominent African-Americans for being unpatriotic, ungrateful and disrespectful.

He called Puerto Ricans who criticized his administration’s response to Hurricane Maria “politically motivated ingrates.”
Friendliness with Proud
Racists and White Nationalists

He has retweeted white nationalists without apology.

He called some of those who marched alongside white supremacists in Charlottesville, Va., last August “very fine people.”

After David Duke, the former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, endorsed him, Trump was reluctant to disavow Duke even when asked directly on television.

Trump hired Steve Bannon as his campaign head and later White House chief strategist. Under Bannon’s leadership, the website Breitbart made white nationalism a central theme. It featured a section, for example, on “black crime.”

Trump endorsed and campaigned for Roy Moore, the Alabama Senate candidate who spoke positively about slavery and who called for an African-American Muslim member of Congress not to be seated because of his religion.

Trump pardoned – and fulsomely praises – Joe Arpaio, the Arizona sheriff sanctioned for racially profiling Latinos and for keeping immigrants in brutal prison conditions.
Denigrating Native Americans

In the 1990s, Trump took out advertisements alleging that the “Mohawk Indian record of criminal activity is well documented.” At the time, he was fighting competition for his casino business.

In a 1993 radio interview, he suggested that Native Americans in Connecticut were faking their ancestry. “I think I might have more Indian blood than a lot of the so-called Indians that are trying to open up the reservations.”

In a November 2017 meeting with Navajo veterans of World War II, Trump mocked Senator Elizabeth Warren as “Pocahontas.”
Other Assorted Racism

Trump has trafficked in anti-Semitic caricatures, including the tweeting of a six-pointed star alongside a pile of cash. He has also been reluctant to condemn anti-Semitic attacks on journalists from his supporters, and he echoed neo-Nazi conspiracy theories by saying that Hillary Clinton “meets in secret with international banks to plot the destruction of U.S. sovereignty in order to enrich these global financial powers, her special interest friends and her donors.”

In a White House meeting with a Korean-American intelligence analyst briefing him on Pakistan, Trump wondered aloud why she was not working on North Korea policy.

Trump once referred to a Hispanic Miss Universe as “Miss Housekeeping.”

At a June 2016 campaign rally, Trump pointed to one attendee and said: “Oh, look at my African-American over here. Look at him.”

You do realize that 20% of this implies that badmouthing someone who isn't white means you are a racist.  For instance, if I call OJ a criminal, that makes me racist.  I think you have a poor definition of racism.

You have some good evidence here, but sadly it gets overshadowed by the poor ones and the ones that aren't examples of racism at all.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1651 on: May 09, 2018, 04:41:22 PM »
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You do realize that 20% of this implies that badmouthing someone who isn't white means you are a racist.  For instance, if I call OJ a criminal, that makes me racist.  I think you have a poor definition of racism.

You have some good evidence here, but sadly it gets overshadowed by the poor ones and the ones that aren't examples of racism at all.

Yeah my feelings too. E.g. the second one, if substantiated, seems pretty racist but a lot of the others are just saying bad things about people who happen not to be white or Americans

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« Reply #1652 on: May 09, 2018, 05:00:48 PM »
Did you ever think about how bad Obama had to be for the public to elect an orange-skinned geriatric billionaire who was a former reality star? That's right. Pretty damn bad.

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« Reply #1653 on: May 09, 2018, 05:08:43 PM »
Did you ever think about how bad Obama had to be for the public to elect an orange-skinned geriatric billionaire who was a former reality star? That's right. Pretty damn bad.
Insofar as I recall, Mr. Obama and Mr. Trump weren't running against each other.  :wink:

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« Reply #1654 on: May 09, 2018, 07:48:33 PM »
Water is beginning to slowly circle the drain.  Mueller is saving Ivanka and the Don for last -- a final grand finale if you will. 



..aaaand war with Iran right on cue now that NK has come to the table.   :-[


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« Reply #1655 on: May 09, 2018, 08:48:44 PM »
Did you ever think about how bad Obama had to be for the public to elect an orange-skinned geriatric billionaire who was a former reality star? That's right. Pretty damn bad.
Insofar as I recall, Mr. Obama and Mr. Trump weren't running against each other.  :wink:

Lest we forget, Trump and his supporters live in a post-truth world. ;D
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1656 on: May 10, 2018, 07:07:02 AM »
He would have beat obama .  Obama won because Romney and mccain used kids gloves because obama is black.
Had it been anyone else hanging out with a racist reverend right and being so obsessed with race are really easy fodder.     

Trump versus obama “ so I read Barry’s book dreams from my father, all he could do was dream he met the guy one time. “. 
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1657 on: May 10, 2018, 07:38:08 AM »
He would have beat obama .  Obama won because Romney and mccain used kids gloves because obama is black.
Had it been anyone else hanging out with a racist reverend right and being so obsessed with race are really easy fodder.     

Trump versus obama “ so I read Barry’s book dreams from my father, all he could do was dream he met the guy one time. “.
I'm pretty sure you're attributing that quote to Mr. Trump, as it makes no sense at all. :laugh:
 Anyway, because of the terrible 2 party system they have over there, it seems that the opposing party always has an advantage after the incumbent party finishes its second term.
    Unfortunately, The Who (and the Romans they quoted) had it right: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1658 on: May 10, 2018, 08:14:27 AM »
He would have beat obama .  Obama won because Romney and mccain used kids gloves because obama is black.
Had it been anyone else hanging out with a racist reverend right and being so obsessed with race are really easy fodder.     

Trump versus obama “ so I read Barry’s book dreams from my father, all he could do was dream he met the guy one time. “.
I don't think the average american would have bought trump's birther lies or trump's racism. Obama would have to taken him to the woodshed without ever breaking a sweat.

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« Reply #1659 on: May 10, 2018, 08:16:01 AM »
Did you ever think about how bad Obama had to be for the public to elect an orange-skinned geriatric billionaire who was a former reality star? That's right. Pretty damn bad.
Nope. Obama did loads of good.

People elected trump because they were as deluded as your post shows you to be.