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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1640 on: April 05, 2018, 03:08:18 PM »
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Every day that goes by in which people realize it's been over a year and the world hasn't ended is a day in which people start to approve of Trump. If he actually has a major breakthrough with NK, look out!
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This shit is laughable Mr. D.  But, I applaud your efforts in only seeing the positives in DJT. I remind you that Mueller is still plugging away. This Rick Gates connection to a Russian oligarch via Alex Van Dersczwann (so?) sure looks like collusion to me.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1641 on: April 05, 2018, 03:13:27 PM »
The important thing with the Rasmussen poll isn't it's level (tends to lean right) but is it correct about Trump's approval trending up? We've seen a similar upward trend in Trump's #s in other polls.

Every day that goes by in which people realize it's been over a year and the world hasn't ended is a day in which people start to approve of Trump. If he actually has a major breakthrough with NK, look out!
Talk about lowering the bar of expectations!

If you have a poll that is 'right-leaning' and they show support for Trump, who appeals to that kind of organ bank, that means the poll is pretty worthless.  It's like running a poll in the Daily Mail and asking if immigrants are the problem for everything ever and then using that to blame all the world's ills on immigrants.  I already posted that Rasmussen uses landlines to conduct their polls.  Who uses landlines these days?

No, we're not surprised that the world hasn't ended, we're just amazed that Trump can still be popular with any right-thinking person because we've been bombarded with evidence that Trump is completely unfit to be a president with his daily behaviour.  Stick him back in a board room and out of our sight and we couldn't give a shit what the hell he does.  The fact this thread is 83 pages long and the examples within shows just how unfit he is to be making decisions related to America and international relations.  Breakthrough with NK?  No chance! 

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1642 on: April 06, 2018, 07:30:11 AM »
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President Trump denied on Thursday knowing of a $130,000 payment his lawyer made to a pornographic film actress who claims to have had a sexual encounter with him, referring questions about the transaction to his personal lawyer.

Mr. Trump made his first public remarks about the matter on Air Force One as he returned to Washington from White Sulphur Springs, W.Va., where he had held a round table on tax cuts. Asked by a reporter whether he knew about the payment to the actress, Stephanie Clifford, known in her films as Stormy Daniels, he said, “No.”

Asked why Michael D. Cohen, his personal lawyer, had made the payment, Mr. Trump said, “You’ll have to ask Michael.”

The president said he did not know where the money had come from.

Ms. Clifford has said that she was paid $130,000 before the 2016 election to buy her silence. She is now suing Mr. Trump to abrogate a nondisclosure agreement that was supposed to prevent her from discussing her relationship. She claims the agreement is null and void because Mr. Trump never signed it.

Ms. Clifford’s pugnacious lawyer, Michael Avenatti, quickly responded to the president on Twitter, pressing to use legal discovery to expose the back-and-forth around the $130,000 payment. He accused Mr. Trump of a “feigned lack of knowledge” about the payment. And he repeated his desire to depose Mr. Trump in a legal proceeding.

“As history teaches us, it is one thing to deceive the press and quite another to do so under oath,” Mr. Avenatti wrote.

So how can an NDA that the person involved had no idea about, and didn't sign, can somehow be valid?  Or as an attorney I pay hundreds of thousands of dollars of my own money to random people who make unsubstantiated claims against my client, with no expectation of repayment, and binding my client to an agreement they know nothing about.  Hmmmm!  Something stinks here.  Is this the same Trump who had no idea that Russians were meeting in Trump Towers before the election?  Seems there are lots of really important stuff he's 'missing'. Hmmm! 

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1643 on: April 06, 2018, 10:48:08 AM »
The important thing with the Rasmussen poll isn't it's level (tends to lean right) but is it correct about Trump's approval trending up? We've seen a similar upward trend in Trump's #s in other polls.

Every day that goes by in which people realize it's been over a year and the world hasn't ended is a day in which people start to approve of Trump. If he actually has a major breakthrough with NK, look out!
Talk about lowering the bar of expectations!

Talk about utter delusion=The Trump is Hitler crowd.



If you have a poll that is 'right-leaning' and they show support for Trump, who appeals to that kind of organ bank, that means the poll is pretty worthless.  It's like running a poll in the Daily Mail and asking if immigrants are the problem for everything ever and then using that to blame all the world's ills on immigrants.  I already posted that Rasmussen uses landlines to conduct their polls.  Who uses landlines these days?

No, we're not surprised that the world hasn't ended, we're just amazed that Trump can still be popular with any right-thinking person because we've been bombarded with evidence that Trump is completely unfit to be a president with his daily behaviour.  Stick him back in a board room and out of our sight and we couldn't give a shit what the hell he does.  The fact this thread is 83 pages long and the examples within shows just how unfit he is to be making decisions related to America and international relations.  Breakthrough with NK?  No chance! 

The Rasmussen Poll is not the most accurate when it comes to measuring Trump's support. However, the Rasmussen poll generally correlates with other polls when it comes to upward or downward trends.

The average leftist: Trump will be out of the race before Christmas. Trump will never win the Primary. The RNC will stop Trump. Trump will never beat Hillary. Trump will start a nuclear war over a tweet. Trump will ban abortion. Trump will start concentration camps for Muslims and Hispanics. Trump will do this. Trump will do that.

None of which has come true, yet they still think we should listen to them and that they have a firm grip on the situation.

Economy doing well. ISIS on the run. North Korea trending in the right direction. Illegal immigration down. Seems like the important stuff is going well. What's the left screaming about? Trump banged a porn star 10 years ago and a Russia 9/11-style Truther conspiracy.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1644 on: April 06, 2018, 11:45:10 AM »
The important thing with the Rasmussen poll isn't it's level (tends to lean right) but is it correct about Trump's approval trending up? We've seen a similar upward trend in Trump's #s in other polls.

Every day that goes by in which people realize it's been over a year and the world hasn't ended is a day in which people start to approve of Trump. If he actually has a major breakthrough with NK, look out!
Talk about lowering the bar of expectations!

Talk about utter delusion=The Trump is Hitler crowd.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1645 on: April 06, 2018, 03:06:11 PM »
President Park: Impeached and sentenced to 24 years in jail.
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2018/04/251_246856.html
Will Trump ever be impeached? It'd be a miracle. And I really hope so. A man can dream, can't he?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1646 on: April 07, 2018, 05:26:48 AM »
Soon. Please please soon ㅠㅠ

I had a meeting with my co-teachers while the election results were coming in. We were all just staring at our phones and being like "What is happening right now..."

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1647 on: April 07, 2018, 09:11:19 AM »
Soon. Please please soon ㅠㅠ

I had a meeting with my co-teachers while the election results were coming in. We were all just staring at our phones and being like "What is happening right now..."

Trumps popularity is on the upsurge. And what can the democrats run on? Higher taxes? Illegal immigration? Gun confiscation? Mark my words. They'll put in someone crazy like Pocahontas as their candidate. Trump will probably win again because of liberal stupidity.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1648 on: April 07, 2018, 10:58:49 AM »
Environmental protection. Free trade. Balanced budgets. Reduction/elimination of gerrymandering. Lower sentences for nonviolent drug crimes. Dignity. Intellect. Cooperation.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1649 on: April 08, 2018, 03:42:47 PM »
Health care, clean water, social security, prescription drugs, opiods, maybe a farm bill.

There's a lot Dems can run on and win if they go with a sensible platform.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1651 on: April 10, 2018, 03:25:23 PM »
Health care, clean water, social security, prescription drugs, opiods, maybe a farm bill.

There's a lot Dems can run on and win if they go with a sensible platform.

The Democratic establishment has gone way too far on the identity politics train no way they are going to go back to a "sensible" platform in time for the 2018 midterms, couple that with the fact that most midterm elections tend to favor the Republicans anyway.  Also tie that into the fact that the Democrats would essentially have to purge the extremist elements out of the party that thinks the only way to win is to tout someones racial or class status and go "OH look a black person, Hispanic person, Gay person, transgendered person... don't you want to elect them? Don't you want to look enlightened and compassionate? If you vote for our candidate you will and if you don't you're a racist, homophobic, Misgonist, transboic Nazi" Of course that is a bit hyperbolic but seriously that seems to be the democratic strategy. Ethier that or run a socialist hack like Bernie who goes down great with millennial democrats who all apparently failed basic economics and history. The Democrats need a serious internal shake-up that puts moderate Democrats back in the reins of power.  I doubt that will happen before the midterms. I think It's likely you will see little change in the makeup of the house or senate. Its really hard to tell because most media outlets are more interested in cheerleading for one side or the other rather than doing actually unbaised reporting and reaserch.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1652 on: April 11, 2018, 03:48:52 AM »
Health care, clean water, social security, prescription drugs, opiods, maybe a farm bill.

There's a lot Dems can run on and win if they go with a sensible platform.

The Democratic establishment has gone way too far on the identity politics train no way they are going to go back to a "sensible" platform in time for the 2018 midterms, couple that with the fact that most midterm elections tend to favor the Republicans anyway.  Also tie that into the fact that the Democrats would essentially have to purge the extremist elements out of the party that thinks the only way to win is to tout someones racial or class status and go "OH look a black person, Hispanic person, Gay person, transgendered person... don't you want to elect them? Don't you want to look enlightened and compassionate? If you vote for our candidate you will and if you don't you're a racist, homophobic, Misgonist, transboic Nazi" Of course that is a bit hyperbolic but seriously that seems to be the democratic strategy. Ethier that or run a socialist hack like Bernie who goes down great with millennial democrats who all apparently failed basic economics and history. The Democrats need a serious internal shake-up that puts moderate Democrats back in the reins of power.  I doubt that will happen before the midterms. I think It's likely you will see little change in the makeup of the house or senate. Its really hard to tell because most media outlets are more interested in cheerleading for one side or the other rather than doing actually unbaised reporting and reaserch.
Ever hear of Conor Lamb? Doug Jones?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1653 on: April 11, 2018, 07:46:27 AM »
The Democratic establishment has gone way too far on the identity politics train no way they are going to go back to a "sensible" platform in time for the 2018 midterms, couple that with the fact that most midterm elections tend to favor the Republicans anyway.
Factually incorrect.  Midterm elections usually favor the party out of the White House: https://www.npr.org/2014/10/30/360133533/the-devastating-history-of-midterm-elections 


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1654 on: April 11, 2018, 08:56:22 AM »
Health care, clean water, social security, prescription drugs, opiods, maybe a farm bill.

There's a lot Dems can run on and win if they go with a sensible platform.

The Democratic establishment has gone way too far on the identity politics train no way they are going to go back to a "sensible" platform in time for the 2018 midterms, couple that with the fact that most midterm elections tend to favor the Republicans anyway.  Also tie that into the fact that the Democrats would essentially have to purge the extremist elements out of the party that thinks the only way to win is to tout someones racial or class status and go "OH look a black person, Hispanic person, Gay person, transgendered person... don't you want to elect them? Don't you want to look enlightened and compassionate? If you vote for our candidate you will and if you don't you're a racist, homophobic, Misgonist, transboic Nazi" Of course that is a bit hyperbolic but seriously that seems to be the democratic strategy. Ethier that or run a socialist hack like Bernie who goes down great with millennial democrats who all apparently failed basic economics and history. The Democrats need a serious internal shake-up that puts moderate Democrats back in the reins of power.  I doubt that will happen before the midterms. I think It's likely you will see little change in the makeup of the house or senate. Its really hard to tell because most media outlets are more interested in cheerleading for one side or the other rather than doing actually unbaised reporting and reaserch.
Ever hear of Conor Lamb? Doug Jones?

Congrats on having two reasonable people left in your party. But you still have a healthy supply of idiots like this who hold office and make up your base.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsM2AJT6Ot0

For the record, I personally don't care, I have little to no hope left for the US and Despise both the Democrats and Republicans, I used to be active with a third party but realized that a third party gaining any power is as likely as winning the lotto and trying to reform ethier party is like pissing into the wind. So now I sit here drinking a beer and watching rome burn.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1655 on: April 11, 2018, 11:16:17 AM »
Health care, clean water, social security, prescription drugs, opiods, maybe a farm bill.

There's a lot Dems can run on and win if they go with a sensible platform.

The Democratic establishment has gone way too far on the identity politics train

Pfft. As opposed to GOP identity politics:

- if you're white, you're good, unless you're a liberal, then you're bad.

- if you're a minority you're probably bad, unless you kowtow to white conservatism, then you're good.

- if you support abortion and/or don't want the country to be lied into wars, you're very very bad.

- if you're a huge racist douchebag conman from Queens, you should be given the benefit of the doubt and desperately defended as the greatest and most noble statesman of all time.

- if you are a woman who dares to run for president as a Democrat, you are literally SATAN!!!!

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1656 on: April 11, 2018, 12:03:13 PM »
Health care, clean water, social security, prescription drugs, opiods, maybe a farm bill.

There's a lot Dems can run on and win if they go with a sensible platform.

The Democratic establishment has gone way too far on the identity politics train

Pfft. As opposed to GOP identity politics:

- if you're white, you're good, unless you're a liberal, then you're bad. if you're a minority you're probably bad unless you kowtow to white conservatism, then you're good.

Not sure how you came to this particular distinction. If you want to make it this simple then I could just as easily say that for the Democrats "If you are white you are bad, unless you're a liberal and you feel guilty about being white because of colonialism and slavery, if your a minority you're good as long as you tow the progressive line".



- if you support abortion and/or don't want the country to lie into wars, you're very very bad.

As for the abortion question, both sides very clearly misrepresent the grievances of the other about the issue in order to make themselves seems to have the moral high ground. IE conservatives will say that they believe it's immoral to terminate an unborn child, and liberals just want to kill babies to have concerns free sex. Vise Versa liberals will say that are protecting women's reproductive rights and that conservatives just want to send women back to the 1950's. Both sides are very good at twisting the position of the other to suit there needs. Because the real question is when is a person alive, and that is a philosophy and moral question that is far beyond a group of men and women who will make any promise to get a seat of power in DC. Or in other words, I sincerely doubt that any politician of either side gives a rats ass about abortion rights or stopping abortion it's just a useful issue to stir up their base.

As to your point about lying your way into wars... well both parties have done that aplenty. Truman lied and skirted the constitution to get us into Korea. LBJ most likely lied about the gulf of Tonkin to get us into a full-fledged war in Vietnam. Bush definitely lied to invade Iraq and err Mickinnley lied or didn't go against yellow journalism to get us into a war with Spain.

- if you're a huge racist douchebag conman from Queens, you should be given the benefit of the doubt and desperately defended as the greatest and the noblest statesman of all time.

Trump is indeed a douche bag, but he ran in a year in which people wanted anything besides a Washington Insider as the candidate, he manages to strike a chord with disaffected voters and managed to turn the rust belt union base, which felt neglected by the Democrats against them. It doesn't make him a good politician but it was a gamble that paid off. I also think you are exaggerating the level of praise he does get from the few true supporters he has, there is a marked difference between people who supported trump, and those who voted for him because they saw him as the less disgusting of the two shit sandwiches offered... which is tha case in most elections.

- if you are a woman who dares to run for president as a Democrat, you are literally SATAN!!!!
Well since I assume you are talking about Hill-dog, she had earned her reputation as a Washington insider and a bit of a sleazy politician well before she had her email scandal or fucked up Benghazi. She was being criticised for inconsistent positions and corrupt practices as far back as 2006, additionally give the level of hyperbole in modern political discourse whichever candidate the Democrats picked would be demonized as "literally SATAN!!!!" just as any Republican candidate would have been demonized as heartless, misogynist, transphoic, homophobic, islamophobic, racist, Nazi who is literally Hitler.

This is not to say that Republicans don't have a laundry list of there own hypocrisy and fails in logic. Such as claiming to be the part of small government and personal freedom and yet continuing to steadfastly support the War on Drugs, one of the greatest affronts to Civil Liberties ever devised as well as one of the biggest reasons many of our cities have a rampant crime problem.

As I said I view both polticans from both parties as self serving assholes who will say anything to get elected and maintain power.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1657 on: April 11, 2018, 12:05:23 PM »
Health care, clean water, social security, prescription drugs, opiods, maybe a farm bill.

There's a lot Dems can run on and win if they go with a sensible platform.

The Democratic establishment has gone way too far on the identity politics train

Pfft. As opposed to GOP identity politics:

- if you're white, you're good, unless you're a liberal, then you're bad.

- if you're a minority you're probably bad, unless you kowtow to white conservatism, then you're good.

- if you support abortion and/or don't want the country to be lied into wars, you're very very bad.

- if you're a huge racist douchebag conman from Queens, you should be given the benefit of the doubt and desperately defended as the greatest and most noble statesman of all time.

- if you are a woman who dares to run for president as a Democrat, you are literally SATAN!!!!

- a Democrat senator who molests girls and is defended by his party is a better choice than any other option. 

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1658 on: April 11, 2018, 01:44:44 PM »
Mr. D

President Trumps personal lawyers office and home was raided by the FBI. Tic tock...tic tock.

If Trump is innocent then why is he acting like the most guilty person EVER?

In other news...appointing Bolton is a sure fire way to start a war. Maybe that'll be enough to get the heat off this criminal.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1659 on: April 12, 2018, 06:47:45 AM »
2013 - "No, dopey, I would not go into Syria, but if I did it would be by surprise and not blurted all over the media like fools."

2013 - "Why do we keep broadcasting when we are going to attack Syria. Why can't we just be quiet and, if we attack at all, catch them by surprise?"

2013 - "For the first time in the history of military operations a country has broadcast what, when and where they will be doing in a future attack!"

2013 - "In war, the elememt of surprise is sooooo important.What the hell is Obama doing."

2014 - "What other country tells the enemy when we are going to attack like Obama is doing with ISIS. Whatever happened to the element of surprise?"


2018 - “Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and ‘smart!’ You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!”

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