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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1360 on: January 22, 2018, 05:40:31 PM »
"Take that liberals"

That would mean something if the whole edifice was actually burning, but it's not. I know the right was unhinged when Obama took office, but even they at their most Breitbarty were never this out of it.

So far Trump has basically enacted a standard Republican agenda. Tax cuts and Gorsuch. Roll back of some regulations. But simply because of the media hype over some tweets and other stuff, people think it's the apocalypse.

We truly are witnessing one of the great mass-delusions/mass-panics of our time. This is War of the Worlds/Salem Witch Trial level stuff.

Yes, there are some equally deluded pro-Trumpers, but if you actually read interviews with most Trump voters, they know his flaws and understand the possibility that he might con them. They knew pretty much what they were getting. They were simply so disgusted with the establishment and worried that if Clinton won, that would essentially be it, so they went with Trump.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1361 on: January 22, 2018, 06:50:44 PM »


Yes, there are some equally deluded pro-Trumpers, but if you actually read interviews with most Trump voters, they know his flaws and understand the possibility that he might con them. They knew pretty much what they were getting. They were simply so disgusted with the establishment and worried that if Clinton won, that would essentially be it, so they went with Trump.

And got the same, plus unhinged tweets. Plebs never learn that populists never follow through.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1362 on: January 22, 2018, 06:52:55 PM »
Poor Trumpy has to stay in Washington and be President rather than golfing away (again) at Mar-a-Lago.
Who'll be keeping him company--niki or hope?

Those aren’t porn stars, right?

I wouldnt put it past them both being bits on the side. He left his Scottish bit on the side in charge of his Scottish golfing businesses. Shes also...uh... challenged? thats a nice way to put it I guess.

Challenged? Well, there is Eric and Don Jr.

I would certainly hope that they aren't also his bits on the side.

I mean, ya never know with him, but still...
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1363 on: January 22, 2018, 09:07:51 PM »
"Take that liberals"

That would mean something if the whole edifice was actually burning, but it's not. I know the right was unhinged when Obama took office, but even they at their most Breitbarty were never this out of it.

So far Trump has basically enacted a standard Republican agenda. Tax cuts and Gorsuch. Roll back of some regulations. But simply because of the media hype over some tweets and other stuff, people think it's the apocalypse.

We truly are witnessing one of the great mass-delusions/mass-panics of our time. This is War of the Worlds/Salem Witch Trial level stuff.

Yes, there are some equally deluded pro-Trumpers, but if you actually read interviews with most Trump voters, they know his flaws and understand the possibility that he might con them. They knew pretty much what they were getting. They were simply so disgusted with the establishment and worried that if Clinton won, that would essentially be it, so they went with Trump.
There's nothing standard about rolling back everything your predecessor did (because he was b;ack and your base is racist?) or HUGE tax cuts that will balloon the deficit or giving corporations, including most banks now, carte blanche. There's nothing standard in spending so little time governing. There's nothing standard in getting much of your information from Fox news and watching hours of TV a day and tweeting, tweeting, tweeting.

There's nothing standard in attacking the press and freedom of speech. There's nothing standard in having a son-in-law with no experience doing high-level diplomacy. There's nothing standard about ignoring the national disaster in Puerto Rico.

As for the apocalypse, doubling down on fossil fuels ain't helping and then there's the matter of Jerusalem and the return of the Messiah.

There's nothing deluded or panicky about people protesting these decisions/actions.

It would be ironic if your stock in trade wasn't prevarication, but your continual generalizations, such as here about trump voters, are so off the mark as to be deluded.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1364 on: January 22, 2018, 09:09:02 PM »


"Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., condemned a new advertisement from President Trump’s reelection campaign that blamed Democrats for the deaths of any U.S. citizens at the hands of undocumented immigrants as 'so sad for our country.'

"The advertisement, titled 'Complicit,' was released on the anniversary of Trump’s inauguration, and hours into the government shutdown that resulted from the unresolved standoff over immigration reform. 'Democrats who stand in our way will be complicit in every murder committed by illegal immigrants,' the ad says."
https://www.yahoo.com/news/bernie-sanders-denounces-outrageous-trump-ad-sad-country-170642874.html

The interests of American citizens should be prioritized over the interests of illegal immigrants. Trump gets it. Bernie doesn't.
Police are killing more folks than illegal immigrants. Should we deport them?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1365 on: January 22, 2018, 09:14:41 PM »
"Sure he's making the country objectively worse and an international laughingstock, BUT AT LEAST HE ANNOYS STOOPID LIBZ LOLOLOL."

Actually the country is objectively better economically (albeit how much of that is Trump is up for debate- it isn't not and it isn't all because of him). Everything else we don't really have much to go on in terms of objective data.

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- boning a porn star hooker then paying her hush money
- shutting down the government by rejecting a bipartisan deal he's been supporting all year long
- being the biggest liar in American political history
- spending all his time watching TV and golfing instead of, y'know, being president
- cracking down on widely-supported legal weed
- making racism normal and Nazism acceptable
- calling for libel reform while being, again, the most libelous person in history
- boasting about passing a cognitive test that required him to correctly identify a camel
- dismissing all negative news about himself as conspiracy theories while peddling conspiracy theories about everyone he doesn't like

- No one voted Trump because of his moral character. Trump did not promise to be our Pope.
- The government shutdown is at least in part due to Dems not accepting certain immigration measures (one could argue that they're right to force a shutdown and oppose those measures, but the shutdown is not all Trump)
- I submit that there are two kinds of Trump lies- the lies where he straight up lies, and the lies where he and you know they're lies, but they're said for effect, usually to rile up the left.
- How Korean- spend more time working just to keep up the appearance of working
- You do realize he basically did the same thing he did with DACA- repeal an executive order so it can be sent to Congress to fix, right?
- If you think racism is normal and Nazism is acceptable and has been encouraged by Trump, you're delusional and hallucinating.
- That cognitive test is actually a standard medical test for dementia used by health professionals around the world. The only reason he "bragged" about it, is because nincompoops on the left believed they were doctors/psychiatrists and they knew he was insane, thanks to selective editing in their minds of his words and actions.
- You mean like the Russian conspiracy theory? The one that is built on an incredibly flimsy foundation? Meanwhile his opponent blames PokemonGo! and Netflix for her defeat.

Try reasonable Trump blaming-
- Some environmental regulations increase the risk of contamination that might not be worth the potential boost in economic growth they offer
- He probably could be more proactive and tactful on race.
- While twitter is often effective, he by no means bats 1.000 and could probably be more selective
- He really flubbed health care, no matter what party you support (although it could have been a lot worse)
- He doesn't always have to lie for attention and to rile people up. Yes it works, but sometimes there are better alternatives.

etc. etc.
That would be some mean rationalization if any of it held water.

Voting against lying, crooked hillary because you "don't trust her" is implicitly stating that trumpy is morally superior.

Racism is on the rise. That's fact.

A liar supporting another liar. Who's lazier, you or trumped up?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1366 on: January 23, 2018, 12:55:46 AM »
One thing we should import from Norway:

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many of the country’s 18,000 law enforcement agencies barely taught important skills such as effective communication. Tactics like de-escalation all begin there, Haberfeld says. “It’s more important than qualifying them to shoot twice a year.” Yet some agencies offer just 15 minutes on the topic, she says—and that’s within larger training regimes that remain pitiful next to a country like, say, Norway. There, officers study for three years and earn a degree in police studies before they hit the streets; here, Haberfeld says, the average department requires just 17 weeks.

For too many trumpites, it's shoot first and ask questions later.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1367 on: January 24, 2018, 11:47:22 PM »
Lol, imagine this guy is the face of a news organization!

https://youtu.be/4AvxOFGoLXI

Then listen to Gogators, some profound wisdom right there. 

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1368 on: January 25, 2018, 12:18:27 AM »
Although this doesn't matter much but listening to this sound clip of Trump to me he said "I'd" not "I".  Why would the media even lie about that?  http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/white-house-disputes-wsj-transcript-president-trump-article-1.3755886 I guess you can add that to the 2000 lies trump has told so far?

Ok slowed down audio 100% he says "I'd".  What that matters I have no idea?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1369 on: January 25, 2018, 12:34:18 AM »
Not sure if this dude is listened to, but after watching 25 seconds, doesn't Trump golf everyday? https://youtu.be/uw_AtnAEoMc  I listened for 1 min more and next he mentions the height thing.  Look up older pics with Trump and Obama you can see the height difference.  This is just complete crazy, why is this news?  I took this youtube clip because I was led here from the previous video I was watching, but this craziness has been on all the news stations.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1370 on: January 25, 2018, 12:49:34 AM »
Lol promise my last post for a bit.  Gogators is this you?



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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1371 on: January 25, 2018, 03:10:00 AM »
Lol promise my last post for a bit.  Gogators is this you? https://youtu.be/b6Qg7ezCjX8
I hope you're getting paid by youtube or someone but I'mnot clicking on those links.

Good luck ith whatever it is you're up to. russki political technologist?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1372 on: January 27, 2018, 02:42:25 AM »
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Grassley isn’t claiming that Kushner won’t testify voluntarily because he is a is a money-laundering crook who has used his family wealth and social position to sell out the country in just about every way possible … nothing like that. He’s just saying that Kushner won’t appear because Dianne Feinstein, in releasing a transcript at the request of the witness, scared poor Jared. He’s not a criminal. Just a coward.

As Grassley frets over the committee getting Kushner to sit down for questions, there is another option—he could subpoena the witness to appear. But don’t get in a hurry. Grassley is more concerned here with frowning at Feinstein than he is about whether or not the committee ever gets at the truth.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1373 on: January 27, 2018, 08:01:05 AM »
https://nypost.com/2018/01/25/journalist-kept-quiet-about-photo-of-obama-with-nation-of-islam-leader/

A journalist hid a photo of Obama for over a decade. In the photo, Obama is posing and smiling with a well-known black supremacist. 

Imagine the outrage if a similar photo had surfaced of Trump with David Duke. It's clear the mainstream media is incredibly biased. There's no way they would have buried such a photo.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1374 on: January 27, 2018, 09:39:11 AM »
https://nypost.com/2018/01/25/journalist-kept-quiet-about-photo-of-obama-with-nation-of-islam-leader/

A journalist hid a photo of Obama for over a decade. In the photo, Obama is posing and smiling with a well-known black supremacist. 

Imagine the outrage if a similar photo had surfaced of Trump with David Duke. It's clear the mainstream media is incredibly biased. There's no way they would have buried such a photo.

It’s a cover-up. The FBI “secret society” has been operating for decades. Just ask Sean Hannity. Oh look, a high speed car chase.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1375 on: January 28, 2018, 10:44:57 PM »
So the russkis had nothing to do with bozo bonespurs getting elected?

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Russian bots retweeted Donald Trump messages close to half-a-million times in the weeks leading up to the presidential election, Twitter officials revealed to the Senate Judiciary Committee, CNN reports.

Some 50,000 of the automated accounts linked to Russia retweeted Trump 10 times more often than they retweeted messages from his rival, Hillary Clinton, Twitter detailed in a written statement this month expanding on testimony to the committee last fall.

The bots tweeted a total of some 2 million messages related to the election beginning in September 2016 to Nov. 15, according to Twitter.

The bots also retweeted and helped amplify other content seen as harmful to the Democrats — including information about hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee exposed on Wikileaks. When the hashtag #PodestaEmails was launched after Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails were hacked, the Russian bots were responsible for a stunning 5 percent of all the tweets on the hashtag, according to data provided by Twitter.

Twitter revealed the information as Senate and House committees continue to probe the extent of Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election. American intelligence officials have concluded that bots under the control of the Kremlin were mobilized in a bid to sway the election toward a Trump victory.

50,000 accounts and 500,000 re-tweets is nothing to sneeze at.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1376 on: January 29, 2018, 06:34:29 AM »
So the russkis had nothing to do with bozo bonespurs getting elected?

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Russian bots retweeted Donald Trump messages close to half-a-million times in the weeks leading up to the presidential election, Twitter officials revealed to the Senate Judiciary Committee, CNN reports.

Some 50,000 of the automated accounts linked to Russia retweeted Trump 10 times more often than they retweeted messages from his rival, Hillary Clinton, Twitter detailed in a written statement this month expanding on testimony to the committee last fall.

The bots tweeted a total of some 2 million messages related to the election beginning in September 2016 to Nov. 15, according to Twitter.

The bots also retweeted and helped amplify other content seen as harmful to the Democrats — including information about hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee exposed on Wikileaks. When the hashtag #PodestaEmails was launched after Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails were hacked, the Russian bots were responsible for a stunning 5 percent of all the tweets on the hashtag, according to data provided by Twitter.

Twitter revealed the information as Senate and House committees continue to probe the extent of Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election. American intelligence officials have concluded that bots under the control of the Kremlin were mobilized in a bid to sway the election toward a Trump victory.

50,000 accounts and 500,000 re-tweets is nothing to sneeze at.

Depends on how those retweets were used. Their effect would have been diluted on the sheer number of tweets out there, plus a lot of stuff gets lost in the soup. Most people just go to verified accts anyways for opinion. The rest is just yelling/liking stuff.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1377 on: January 29, 2018, 09:05:53 AM »
So the russkis had nothing to do with bozo bonespurs getting elected?

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Russian bots retweeted Donald Trump messages close to half-a-million times in the weeks leading up to the presidential election, Twitter officials revealed to the Senate Judiciary Committee, CNN reports.

Some 50,000 of the automated accounts linked to Russia retweeted Trump 10 times more often than they retweeted messages from his rival, Hillary Clinton, Twitter detailed in a written statement this month expanding on testimony to the committee last fall.

The bots tweeted a total of some 2 million messages related to the election beginning in September 2016 to Nov. 15, according to Twitter.

The bots also retweeted and helped amplify other content seen as harmful to the Democrats — including information about hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee exposed on Wikileaks. When the hashtag #PodestaEmails was launched after Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails were hacked, the Russian bots were responsible for a stunning 5 percent of all the tweets on the hashtag, according to data provided by Twitter.

Twitter revealed the information as Senate and House committees continue to probe the extent of Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election. American intelligence officials have concluded that bots under the control of the Kremlin were mobilized in a bid to sway the election toward a Trump victory.

50,000 accounts and 500,000 re-tweets is nothing to sneeze at.

Depends on how those retweets were used. Their effect would have been diluted on the sheer number of tweets out there, plus a lot of stuff gets lost in the soup. Most people just go to verified accts anyways for opinion. The rest is just yelling/liking stuff.
BS. You're worse than trump when it comes to lying.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1378 on: January 29, 2018, 09:59:45 AM »
When special counsel Robert Mueller finishes his investigation and brings his evidence to those in congress/senate we'll finally return to the OP question. When will Trump be impeached?

President Trump will either

A: Be impeached
B: Resign facing mounting pressure from those in congress/senate
C: Fight it and we'll see a situation the U.S. has never faced before

If anyone who thinks the President won't undergo any of the 3 choices above then you are truly living under a rock. DJT fired Comey for no reason, tried to fire Mueller over membership disputes at a golf club, wanted to fire Rosentein because he wouldn't fire Andrew McCabe, dictated a false response in regards to the Trump tower meeting, and ordered WH lawyer Doug McGhan to pressure Sessions to not recuse himself from overseeing the investigation. Lets say we take away all of the above besides Trump firing Comey. Okay. Then yes I'd believe Mueller wouldn't have a basis for Obstruction of Justice. But, unfortunately, the other instances are true which to an investigator means there is clear intent on stopping the Russia investigation on behalf of the President.

The fact that a trained lawyer (Doug Mcghan) refused the order from the sitting President to pressure Sessions and to fire Mueller means that Trumps OWN lawyer sees his intentions as being criminal. This isn't subjective...its clearly an objective opinion.

Notice the official WH statement on reasons to fire Mueller in June haven't changed. There is no denying the claims. The only thing we've heard from DJT is "fake news". Its soooooo f**king funny to watch this guy go down in flames.

The investigation started out as a "did they collude with Russia in the election", which they've already acquired two guilty pleas (one being from the NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER), but is now mainly focusing on an obstruction of justice. The irony being that President Trump's most famous catch phrase "you're fired" will be the reason his tenure will be so marred by illegalities.

Proving obstruction of justice is tough because you need intent. And the president can fire anyone he wants, thats true. But...INTENT is the question here. Why did you fire Comey? DJT "i did it because this Russia thing is made up story". (indication of Obstruction of Justice).

Mueller "did you order or did you order your attorney to pressure Rosentein to fire me?" If DJT answer yes? The next question is why which he has no real answer for meaning theres more evidence to his intention to stymie the investigation (Obstruction of Justice). If he answers no? He perjures himself.  I CAN"T WAIT for this DJT Mueller questioning.

And when the downfall of President Trump comes (whether that be in a year or a couple years) I hope all you Trump supporters have the guts to come out and say you were wrong.

If by some miracle Mueller and his air tight legal team doesn't find any evidence of OofJ or collusion involving the President I'll be the first one on here to say I was wrong. I promise. I have faith in the FBI and the special counsel. Do you?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1379 on: January 29, 2018, 10:02:31 AM »
So the russkis had nothing to do with bozo bonespurs getting elected?

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Russian bots retweeted Donald Trump messages close to half-a-million times in the weeks leading up to the presidential election, Twitter officials revealed to the Senate Judiciary Committee, CNN reports.

Some 50,000 of the automated accounts linked to Russia retweeted Trump 10 times more often than they retweeted messages from his rival, Hillary Clinton, Twitter detailed in a written statement this month expanding on testimony to the committee last fall.

The bots tweeted a total of some 2 million messages related to the election beginning in September 2016 to Nov. 15, according to Twitter.

The bots also retweeted and helped amplify other content seen as harmful to the Democrats — including information about hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee exposed on Wikileaks. When the hashtag #PodestaEmails was launched after Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails were hacked, the Russian bots were responsible for a stunning 5 percent of all the tweets on the hashtag, according to data provided by Twitter.

Twitter revealed the information as Senate and House committees continue to probe the extent of Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election. American intelligence officials have concluded that bots under the control of the Kremlin were mobilized in a bid to sway the election toward a Trump victory.

50,000 accounts and 500,000 re-tweets is nothing to sneeze at.

Depends on how those retweets were used. Their effect would have been diluted on the sheer number of tweets out there, plus a lot of stuff gets lost in the soup. Most people just go to verified accts anyways for opinion. The rest is just yelling/liking stuff.
BS. You're worse than trump when it comes to lying.

You just have a raw number without any other numbers to give further analysis to the data. What tweets were they used on? Did they take tweets that had a handful of retweets into ones that had thousands? Did anyone actually view their retweets?

If most people use twitter like I do, they mostly stick to their feed. You might pop over to "trending" or search for something, but it's verified/well-known users who drive twitter. Taking someone from 350 retweets to 390 retweets via bot isn't really going to change things.

This is before we get to the question as to whether people actually are influenced by this. Most things are scrolled through and ignored. People who think one way are going to act another way. Trump's hardcore fans were already going to vote for Trump. Dems were going to vote Dem. And the people who were undecided were NOT glued to twitter getting swayed by the latest tweet.

At the end of the day, the single biggest argument against the "Russian bots swayed the election" hypothesis is this:

Did Russian bots prevent Hillary from campaigning in Wisconsin?