Quote from: gogators! on February 05, 2018, 07:01:51 PM"So far the final"--now there's a nice illogical phrase. Touche'!Anyways, as of now, NO EVIDENCE OF COLLUSION. You can try and claim otherwise, but that's where it stands now.
"So far the final"--now there's a nice illogical phrase.
The use of Facebook and Twitter by Russians to push political propaganda is now fairly well-known. What many folks don’t know is that Russian trolls took to micro-blogging platform Tumblr to wreak more havoc, posing as Black activists to post anti-Hillary and pro-Bernie content. This is according to an investigation by researcher Jonathan Albright and BuzzFeed News. “The evidence we've collected shows a highly engaged and far-reaching Tumblr propaganda-op targeting mostly teenage and twenty-something African Americans. This appears to have been part of an ongoing campaign since early 2015,” said Albright, research director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia University.
Rob Porter, the White House staff secretary, was accused by his first wife of being "physically abusive" during their marriage and was accused by his second wife of pulling her out of a shower and calling her a "****** bitch" on their honeymoon. "A man of true integrity," said the chief of staff, hours before a reporter published photos of Porter's first wife with a black eye. US president Donald Trump, who once said it "doesn't matter" what journalists write about him if he has a "piece of ass" that is "young," blamed the press coverage of the abuse allegations on the White House communications director, whom Trump has reportedly called a "piece of tail" and asked to steam a pair of pants he was wearing. Porter submitted his resignation, the press secretary said Porter was not "pressured" to resign, the chief of staff reportedly told White House employees that he fired Porter "forty minutes" after he learned of the allegations, and it was reported that the chief of staff was informed of the abuse by the FBI months earlier. The press secretary said the White House didn't act on the accusation because the FBI's investigation into Porter was still "ongoing," and the FBI director testified to Congress that the agency had submitted to the White House a "partial report" in March, a "completed background investigation" in July, and a "follow-up" in November. The press secretary told reporters that "every day" the White House "can learn from the day before," and a speechwriter for Trump resigned after he was accused of grabbing his wife by the hair, throwing her into a wall, putting a cigarette out on her hand, and driving a car over her foot. "Is there no such thing any longer as due process?" tweeted Trump, whose former Kentucky campaign manager and Oklahoma campaign chair were each convicted of child sex trafficking, who was himself accused in a divorce filing of pulling his first wife's hair out and raping her because he was upset about a painful scalp surgery performed to conceal his hair loss, and who has refused to apologize for calling for the execution of five black and Latino teenagers wrongly convicted of rape.
More evidence on russki interference:QuoteThe use of Facebook and Twitter by Russians to push political propaganda is now fairly well-known. What many folks don’t know is that Russian trolls took to micro-blogging platform Tumblr to wreak more havoc, posing as Black activists to post anti-Hillary and pro-Bernie content. This is according to an investigation by researcher Jonathan Albright and BuzzFeed News. “The evidence we've collected shows a highly engaged and far-reaching Tumblr propaganda-op targeting mostly teenage and twenty-something African Americans. This appears to have been part of an ongoing campaign since early 2015,” said Albright, research director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia University.
Quote from: gogators! on February 14, 2018, 09:24:37 AMMore evidence on russki interference:QuoteThe use of Facebook and Twitter by Russians to push political propaganda is now fairly well-known. What many folks don’t know is that Russian trolls took to micro-blogging platform Tumblr to wreak more havoc, posing as Black activists to post anti-Hillary and pro-Bernie content. This is according to an investigation by researcher Jonathan Albright and BuzzFeed News. “The evidence we've collected shows a highly engaged and far-reaching Tumblr propaganda-op targeting mostly teenage and twenty-something African Americans. This appears to have been part of an ongoing campaign since early 2015,” said Albright, research director of the Tow Center for Digital Journalism at Columbia University.Tumblr cost Hillary the election!The Russians wanted to sow chaos into America on a $500,000 budget with a bunch of people retweeting stuff from Don Jr. and sharing a few memes on facebook. What a master plan!You do realize that YOU are the one enabling Russian chaos by actually buying into this crap and giving it more attention than it deserves, right?
Wow! Steels knows more than the heads of the US Intelligence agencies.
Quote from: Savant on February 14, 2018, 10:37:49 AMWow! Steels knows more than the heads of the US Intelligence agencies.The head of the US intelligence agencies are in the business of exaggerating threats so they can get more funding for their department.You do know how government works, right?
And somehow I think that as long as Trump continues to deny Russian interference in the election then they won't get more funding for dealing with the Russian threat.
Apparently email spam and popup ads don't exist.
Quote from: MayorHaggar on February 14, 2018, 11:50:13 AMApparently email spam and popup ads don't exist.Yeah, those Russian companies are really booming and taking over the market!
This red herring doesn't smell any better just because you keep re-using it. Could it be that sanctions against russia stops their companies from doing well in the US? Or is it that russia's economy has been historically bad and continues to be so? That all the wealth is concentrated in the hands of a very few? That no one wants to buy crappy russki goods when they can get better from china for less?Bots and algorithms don't work? So now you've bought into trumpy's anti-science agenda.
Quote from: gogators! on February 14, 2018, 02:32:55 PMThis red herring doesn't smell any better just because you keep re-using it. Could it be that sanctions against russia stops their companies from doing well in the US? Or is it that russia's economy has been historically bad and continues to be so? That all the wealth is concentrated in the hands of a very few? That no one wants to buy crappy russki goods when they can get better from china for less?Bots and algorithms don't work? So now you've bought into trumpy's anti-science agenda.The U.S. isn't the entire global market. If Russian twitter bots were truly that magical when it comes to influence, then Russia could do this all over the world. Russia's economy being bad proves my point- That the Russians don't have magical influence and advertising prowess through twitter and facebook. These bots didn't influence people and are just a scapegoat for the failures of the Democrats during 2016. Why is it so hard to admit that Russian twitter bots didn't have any influence? As for being "anti-science", is there any evidence that they actually persuaded people to vote differently when all other variables are taken into account?
A Vox analysis of hiring records for seasonal workers at three Trump properties in New York and Florida revealed that only one out of 144 jobs went to a US worker from 2016 to the end of 2017. Foreign guest workers with H-2B visas got the rest.
America First!https://www.vox.com/2018/2/13/16466542/trump-h-2b-guest-workersQuoteA Vox analysis of hiring records for seasonal workers at three Trump properties in New York and Florida revealed that only one out of 144 jobs went to a US worker from 2016 to the end of 2017. Foreign guest workers with H-2B visas got the rest.Argh, treasonous liberals filling the country with third world immigrants yet again! Why can't we just elect a strongman who hates political correctness to the presidency? That'll finally end this madness! U-S-A! U-S-A!
They ARE doing it all over the world. russki economic problems greatly predate facebook et al. They did influence people and continue to do so. Wake up and smell the kimchi.
Quote from: gogators! on February 14, 2018, 04:04:09 PMThey ARE doing it all over the world. russki economic problems greatly predate facebook et al. They did influence people and continue to do so. Wake up and smell the kimchi.Dude, you think $200k of Russian facebook ads, I think ONE of which went minorly viral, and some retweets was magically more effective than the $100s of millions of ads, including online ones, and domestically made viral shares? Most of the Russian ads not only didn't go viral, they weren't even a sneeze. These things didn't operate in a vacuum. There were tons of other influences. They were #999 out of 1000. Again, if these Russian facebook ads are so magically influential compared to other domestic ads, why isn't Madison Ave. bankrupt and every corporation around the world employing Russian trolls? Because they aren't effective and they weren't effective. It's just an excuse that people use. Seriously, how can you claim to posses critical thinking skills yet somehow believe that $200k of Russian facebook ads overwhelmed $100s of millions of Democratic ads? Trump's wave built long before Russia was an issue. I also love the idea that somehow Vladimir Putin, in 2015, was somehow able to predict that Donald Trump of all people, would be able to launch a successful bid for the presidency, when everyone else at the time treated his campaign as a joke. This, the same Donald Trump that is accused of being simultaneously a buffoon, suffering from dementia, so narcissistic he doesn't listen to anyone, monumentally stupid, controlled by David Duke, etc.gogators!, you are aware that blaming Russians for everything and believing that the Russians have magical controls that are brainwashing people is not exactly a new thing in this country, right? Which is more likely A) $200k of Russian facebook ads overwhelmed $100s of millions of domestic advertising (despite almost none of them going viral)B) Russia is a scapegoat yet again, just like previous red scares.
