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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1160 on: December 06, 2017, 05:27:32 PM »
It doesn't take watching you play the good German for anyone whose eyes are open to see the parallels between Nazi Germany and the US under trumped up.

From "The German always before the foreigner and the Jews!" to America First is no stretch at all (just replace Jews with Muslims).

There aren't ANY parallels. Unless you think "Art of the Deal" is comparable to "Mein Kampf".

You could write up Trump's presidency as having parallels to The Fellowship of the Ring, Berlusconi, The Island of Misfit Toys, G.R.O.S.S., Charles II, The Klingon High Council, The Duke of Brunswick, Trajan, King Tut, Jahangir, Tojo, The Gambino Family, Pee Wee's Playhouse, or anything else under the frickin sun.

That doesn't mean it really is like that.

Nothing says "Nazi Germany" where hundreds of thousands of people march dressed up as vulvas and whatnot, while absolutely jack shit happens and the police provide them with extensive security. Totally Nazi Germany dude.
Posting nonsense, which is your forte, does nothing to disprove my point.

If you could, I assume that you would. But since you didn't, you obviously can't.

I'll throw you a bone--trump's MAGA and American first pitch are exactly why so many good Germans lined up behind Hitler. They were embarrassed that Germany was no longer a world power and wanted to right what they perceived as a wrong. The Jews, the Poles, the Slavs were to blame, and so...

In the US, it's the Mexicans, Muslims, the liberals and Obama, all trying to destroy America. (amerika?) Don;t let the veneer of civility fool you. anyone who supports roy moore is all about power (and misogyny).

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1161 on: December 06, 2017, 05:32:03 PM »
You could write up Trump's presidency as having parallels to The Fellowship of the Ring, Berlusconi, The Island of Misfit Toys, G.R.O.S.S., Charles II, The Klingon High Council, The Duke of Brunswick, Trajan, King Tut, Jahangir, Tojo, The Gambino Family, Pee Wee's Playhouse, or anything else under the frickin sun.

I think this presidency is a little more like the Three Stooges........only difference being was they were actually geniuses.



See there we go. I mean, I may disagree, but I can certainly see this interpretation and not dismiss it as hysterical ravings. Shoddy and amateurish seems much more plausible when it comes to gold-plated Trump than "It's like Nazi Germany!!!!!!"
That's sillier than the Three Stooges. Racists can't be shoddy and amateurish? Presidents and prime ministers can't be?

And of course you're contradicting yourself. Earlier you were lauding his acumen as a business man and calling those who opposed him losers.

Trolls can be shoddy and amateurish as well.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1162 on: December 07, 2017, 09:17:16 AM »
The flynn business is getting nastier and nastier as they've now got him promising sanctions will be lifted so his cronies could make a fortune selling nuclear power in the ME.

And they've unsealed records of a class action suit against bozo bone spurs for not paying undocumented Polish workers who worked on clearing the site for the Trump Tower in NYC. he knew they were undocumented--they were making $4 an hour while working 12 hour days, stiffed them and then reported them to immigration. He had to settle the lawsuit.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1163 on: December 19, 2017, 12:31:38 PM »
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US outnumbered 14 to 1 as it vetoes UN vote on status of Jerusalem

A UN security council resolution calling for the withdrawal of Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital has been backed by every council member except the US, which used its veto.

The unanimity of the rest of the council was a stark rebuke to the Trump administration over its unilateral move earlier this month, which upended decades of international consensus.

The Egyptian-drafted resolution did not specifically mention the US or Trump but expressed “deep regret at recent decisions concerning the status of Jerusalem”.

A spokesman for the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, responded to the veto by saying it was “unacceptable and threatens the stability of the international community because it disrespects it”.

The UK and France had indicated in advance that they would would back the text, which demanded that all countries comply with pre-existing UNSC resolutions on Jerusalem, dating back to 1967, including requirements that the city’s final status be decided in direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.

The resolution was denounced in furious language by the US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, who described it as “an insult” that would not be forgotten. “The United States will not be told by any country where we can put our embassy,” she said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/18/us-outnumbered-14-to-1-as-it-vetoes-un-vote-on-status-of-jerusalem

Hey, Nikki, this will be popular with the rest of the UN.  Not to be forgotten?  Wow!
United we stand, divided we fall. trump and his administration are taking us for a big fall.

Try and avoid the crossfire.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1164 on: December 19, 2017, 01:52:05 PM »
United we stand, divided we fall. trump and his administration are taking us for a big fall.

Try and avoid the crossfire.

When this happened, everyone was predicting a massive conflagration. Instead, by Middle East standards, it's been pretty mild. Not even a general intifada. The rest of the Middle East is too busy dealing with Iran, Yemen, the Sinai, mopping up ISIS, and reforms to care much about some symbolic move when it's obvious that Israel and Jerusalem isn't going anywhere.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1165 on: December 19, 2017, 04:06:02 PM »
United we stand, divided we fall. trump and his administration are taking us for a big fall.

Try and avoid the crossfire.

When this happened, everyone was predicting a massive conflagration. Instead, by Middle East standards, it's been pretty mild. Not even a general intifada. The rest of the Middle East is too busy dealing with Iran, Yemen, the Sinai, mopping up ISIS, and reforms to care much about some symbolic move when it's obvious that Israel and Jerusalem isn't going anywhere.
Who's everyone, mr. hyperbole? Give it time.

Reforms? Where?

Funny how you left out Syria, where trumped up has put putin in the driver's seat.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1166 on: December 19, 2017, 08:41:19 PM »
https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/

It amazes me that Obama wasn't impeached.

I'm surprised Politico printed this.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1167 on: December 19, 2017, 09:18:58 PM »
https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/

It amazes me that Obama wasn't impeached.

I'm surprised Politico printed this.
Politics sometimes take precedence, though it's a bitter pill to swallow. But Obama's ME strategy certainly wasn't without flaws. Tough to drain the swamp, though, when it's full of alligators put there by bush.

I'd love to see the DEA do more about the opioid crisis in the US, but they seem content with giving the drug companies/distributors slaps on the wrist.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1168 on: December 20, 2017, 09:43:43 AM »
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US outnumbered 14 to 1 as it vetoes UN vote on status of Jerusalem

A UN security council resolution calling for the withdrawal of Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital has been backed by every council member except the US, which used its veto.

The unanimity of the rest of the council was a stark rebuke to the Trump administration over its unilateral move earlier this month, which upended decades of international consensus.

The Egyptian-drafted resolution did not specifically mention the US or Trump but expressed “deep regret at recent decisions concerning the status of Jerusalem”.

A spokesman for the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, responded to the veto by saying it was “unacceptable and threatens the stability of the international community because it disrespects it”.

The UK and France had indicated in advance that they would would back the text, which demanded that all countries comply with pre-existing UNSC resolutions on Jerusalem, dating back to 1967, including requirements that the city’s final status be decided in direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.

The resolution was denounced in furious language by the US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, who described it as “an insult” that would not be forgotten. “The United States will not be told by any country where we can put our embassy,” she said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/18/us-outnumbered-14-to-1-as-it-vetoes-un-vote-on-status-of-jerusalem

Hey, Nikki, this will be popular with the rest of the UN.  Not to be forgotten?  Wow!

It's essentially handing over all of the US's middle eastern allies over to China on a silver platter.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1169 on: December 20, 2017, 10:57:24 AM »
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US outnumbered 14 to 1 as it vetoes UN vote on status of Jerusalem

A UN security council resolution calling for the withdrawal of Donald Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital has been backed by every council member except the US, which used its veto.

The unanimity of the rest of the council was a stark rebuke to the Trump administration over its unilateral move earlier this month, which upended decades of international consensus.

The Egyptian-drafted resolution did not specifically mention the US or Trump but expressed “deep regret at recent decisions concerning the status of Jerusalem”.

A spokesman for the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, responded to the veto by saying it was “unacceptable and threatens the stability of the international community because it disrespects it”.

The UK and France had indicated in advance that they would would back the text, which demanded that all countries comply with pre-existing UNSC resolutions on Jerusalem, dating back to 1967, including requirements that the city’s final status be decided in direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.

The resolution was denounced in furious language by the US ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley, who described it as “an insult” that would not be forgotten. “The United States will not be told by any country where we can put our embassy,” she said.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/18/us-outnumbered-14-to-1-as-it-vetoes-un-vote-on-status-of-jerusalem

Hey, Nikki, this will be popular with the rest of the UN.  Not to be forgotten?  Wow!

It's essentially handing over all of the US's middle eastern allies over to China on a silver platter.
Don't forget russia, which has taken the lead on syria.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1170 on: December 20, 2017, 11:38:31 AM »
Russia is a bit player in the long game. China can and will eat the Ruskies for breakfast once their mutual enemy has been dealt with.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1171 on: December 21, 2017, 09:49:57 AM »
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NikkiHaley:

At the UN we're always asked to do more & give more. So, when we make a decision, at the will of the American ppl, abt where to locate OUR embassy, we don't expect those we've helped to target us. On Thurs there'll be a vote criticizing our choice. The US will be taking names.

What a truly ridiculous thing to say to get people to side with you.  Vote for our stupid idea or we'll fook you.  Such a lovely, dignified way of doing things. 

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The vote in the emergency session of the general assembly follows an annual vote on Tuesday where members voted 176-7 to affirm the Palestinian right to self-determination, suggesting the level of support the draft resolution could potentially command on Thursday.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/20/us-take-names-united-nations-vote-to-reject-jerusalem-recognition

We'll see...

The USA has become the "niceguy" neckbeard of international politics
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1172 on: December 22, 2017, 06:03:06 PM »
Wonder what the UN will do when China invades Taiwan....something hypocritical I assume.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1173 on: December 23, 2017, 10:32:32 AM »
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NikkiHaley:

At the UN we're always asked to do more & give more. So, when we make a decision, at the will of the American ppl, abt where to locate OUR embassy, we don't expect those we've helped to target us. On Thurs there'll be a vote criticizing our choice. The US will be taking names.

What a truly ridiculous thing to say to get people to side with you.  Vote for our stupid idea or we'll fook you.  Such a lovely, dignified way of doing things. 

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The vote in the emergency session of the general assembly follows an annual vote on Tuesday where members voted 176-7 to affirm the Palestinian right to self-determination, suggesting the level of support the draft resolution could potentially command on Thursday.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/20/us-take-names-united-nations-vote-to-reject-jerusalem-recognition

We'll see...

Trump started writing the 176 names in crayon but gave up at Afghanistan.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1174 on: December 25, 2017, 01:08:26 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZAPwfrtAFY

I know it is not a surprise but really? Can you really defend this? Is the problem of american discourse now just a derailing of real facts.

Seeing  this now makes me sad. That is what it is.

This is just the beginning. The new tax bill that takes away as much environmental protections that it can. It was a tax bill that stripped eco safety and also gave the millionaires a good tax deduction.  But the middle class should pay more. #draintheswamp #devos 

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1175 on: January 04, 2018, 11:14:42 AM »
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President Trump excommunicated his onetime chief strategist, Stephen K. Bannon, from his circle on Wednesday, ending for now a partnership of convenience that transformed American politics while raising questions about the future of the nationalist-populist movement they cultivated together.

The rupture came after Mr. Bannon was quoted in a new book disparaging the president’s children, asserting that Donald Trump Jr. had been “treasonous” in meeting with Russians and calling Ivanka Trump “dumb as a brick.” Mr. Trump, described by his spokeswoman as “furious, disgusted,” fired back by saying that Mr. Bannon had “lost his mind.”

In a written statement, the president excoriated Mr. Bannon as a self-promoting exaggerator who had “very little to do with our historic victory” in the 2016 presidential election and was “only in it for himself.” Rather than representing Mr. Trump’s hard-core political base or supporting his agenda to “make America great again,” Mr. Bannon was “simply seeking to burn it all down,” the president said.

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“The three senior guys in the campaign thought it was a good idea to meet with a foreign government inside Trump Tower in the conference room on the 25th floor — with no lawyers. They didn’t have any lawyers,” Mr. Bannon said after The Times revealed the meeting in July 2017, according to Mr. Wolff’s book.

“Even if you thought that this was not treasonous, or unpatriotic, or bad shit, and I happen to think it’s all of that, you should have called the F.B.I. immediately,” Mr. Bannon continued, according to the book.

He also said that the chance that Donald Trump Jr. did not introduce the Russians to his father “is zero,” a supposition rather than an assertion but one that would contradict the president’s insistence that he knew nothing about the meeting at the time.

Do you ever get the idea that this whole administration is mess?  Or the possibility that Trump is a terrible judge of character when it comes to choosing people?  I mean this is an important job, and there are people that have years of experience in politics and he makes choices that months later look to be terrible.  Ivanka Trump is 'as dumb as a brick' though.  Would be nice if Bannon went after Trump with his Breitbart shit.
Breitbart is distancing itself from Bannon.

The wolff book would be quite disturbing if much of what he writes about trumpy wasn't so obvious. But maybe confirmation such as this will disenchant more of his base.

And the possibility that trumpy committed treason has entered the conversation.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1176 on: January 04, 2018, 11:24:42 AM »
Breitbart is distancing itself from Bannon.

Is that possible?  He is their executive chairman.
It's readers:
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People hammered Bannon on Wednesday in the comments section about the book on Breitbart.com—the website Bannon himself runs.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1177 on: January 08, 2018, 10:53:07 AM »
"Citing his success in business and on television, as well as his victory in presidential politics on 'my first try,' Trump tweeted that his record 'would qualify as not smart, but genius....and a very stable genius at that!' He suggested that the 'Fake News Mainstream Media' are trying to smear him by using the 'playbook' on President Ronald Reagan, who some believed suffered from mental deterioration due to age in the latter years of his two terms. Reagan was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease after leaving office."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-boasts-that-hes-like-really-smart-and-a-very-stable-genius-amid-questions-over-his-mental-fitness/2018/01/06/f166c8e8-f314-11e7-b3bf-ab90a706e175_story.html?utm_term=.060cb823da4f

I don't believe that he could have accomplished what he has in life without being significantly smarter than average. Chris Langan (who has an estimated IQ of 200) explains:

"Trump’s IQ is probably at least as high as that of the typical professional academic, and higher than that of the typical Harvard student.

"When a sample of 86 Harvard undergraduates was given an abbreviated version of the WAIS, their mean IQ came up as 128.1, with a range of 97-148 (lower than would be estimated from the SAT scores of Harvard students, but the SAT is not an IQ test). The mean IQ of tenured college professors is probably around 135.

"Anyone who thinks that Donald Trump couldn’t easily work as a high-functioning professor at a top business school like the one from which he graduated (Wharton) hasn’t been watching him very closely. Success of that magnitude doesn’t lie, not even with four strategic bankruptcies (The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991; Trump Plaza Hotel, 1992; Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts, 2004; Trump Entertainment Resorts, 2009). Anyone who would walk down a university hallway and pass by a business management course taught by Trump in order to reach one taught by almost anyone else either has a bee in his bonnet, or rocks in his head.

"One can disagree with Trump’s politics and dislike his personal style all one likes, but his detractors need to stop fooling themselves about how sharp he is."
https://www.quora.com/What-is-your-honest-estimation-of-Trumps-IQ

There may have been some cognitive decline due to age. That would not be so unusual for someone who is 71. But not enough to be removed from office.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1178 on: January 08, 2018, 11:00:09 AM »
It's 2018 and Trump is still president. So the 65 people who chose the "2017  Hell Yea!" option were wrong. Was gogators one of them? How many more people will be proven wrong?
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1179 on: January 08, 2018, 11:57:39 AM »
It's 2018 and Trump is still president. So the 65 people who chose the "2017  Hell Yea!" option were wrong. Was gogators one of them? How many more people will be proven wrong?
No. Dems don't want to waste political capital on what would be mostly a symbolic gesture. And no wants crazy homo-hating pence taking over.

The House is up for grabs and that's what Dems are focusing on. We're looking for more of this: