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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1120 on: October 16, 2017, 01:45:34 PM »
Apparently Hillary Clinton, in addition to "accepting responsibility" but blaming Russia, Comey, racism, sexism, Obama, Bernie Sanders, the media and The New York Times :laugh:, Jill Stein, women, Netflix, Facebook, Twitter, Assange, Campaign Financing (despite having outspent Trump 2:1), and The DNC, is apparently now adding Nigel Farage to the list.

And people said Trump would have a hard time accepting the results and lacked temperament!

This from a candidate who ignored all warnings from Dems on the ground in the Midwest, her own 2-term husband-former President, rally sizes, lack of book sales, trusted in Hollywood and celebrities, and refused to meet her supporters on election night and concede.

Obama would have wiped the floor with Trump. Biden would have won in a walk. Sanders would probably have won a narrow race. This result is on her and her campaign.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1121 on: October 16, 2017, 02:02:08 PM »

Nope, nope and nope.

Any post that starts with "i'm guessing" is probably going to be BS. No probably here.

Russian McDonald's commercial that's just like US ones: https://vimeo.com/50607995

Not even close.

You've  now posted how umpteen times the russkis had NO influence on the election. So how about some  proof beyond your silly analogies.


How's this for proof-

Dem ad: "Russia tricked you. Don't let them get away with it again. Take back this country from the Russians. Hillary lost because of Russian interference and we need you to be with Her. Vote Democratic in 2018".

Republican ad: "All the Democrats have done for the last 2 years is say you were tricked by the Russians and voted for Trump because of this ad (show graphic of facebook ad). Really? Make America Great Again in 2018."

Everyone in America (including much of the left and MSM that indulges in the Russia thing for ratings, would just look at the Democrats and be like "Are you insane?"

Now compare that with say a Dem ad that had something like this-

"We know why you voted the way you did in 2018. It wasn't Russia, it wasn't Comey, it wasn't racism. It's because you're hurting and you're angry. It's because you're working two jobs and are still in debt. It's because you once had a respectable job that let you take the family on vacation and now you're serving fries behind a counter to the friends of your children. It's because politicians in DC seem to be more interested in cozying up to Wall St. and outsourcing your jobs than caring about the millions of Americans all over the U.S. who were once part of our great middle class. It's because some of us have focused more on what skin color or gender you are than the fact that we're all Americans and we're all in this together. We've heard you and it is our mission to fight for you."

That's what Bill Clinton would have ran on. That's what Biden would have ran on. That's what Sanders was running on. And they'd have won. Guess what? That's what Trump ran on.

But go and run with Russia.

Let's have each side go with what they believe to be true. I think the results that would follow on such a campaign would be reflective of the truth- No one in America voted the way they did because of some Russian facebook ad.

I would LOVE, LOVE for the Democratic Party to make Russian "interference" the central issue in the 2018 campaign. After all, it apparently decided an election, not the economy, wars, jobs, trade, taxes, some shitty Obamacare Bronze plan that you have to buy or eat a tax penalty, SJW nonsense, and sanctuary cities. Nope, go with Russian interference.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1122 on: October 16, 2017, 02:16:18 PM »
Chris Matthews gets it-

The Core of Trump Support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dO9u8n4s3M

The Incentive for Many Trump Supporters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFr-kLhO_0o

Election Night Analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7zV5_8leuE

What's Ailing the Democratic Party
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOFDDtIEpS4

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1123 on: October 16, 2017, 02:35:54 PM »
I mean, if anything fans the flames of social divide across the world, it's our own pop culture exports and our pressures on various countries around the world to adopt "our" values. We're talking billions of dollars worth of movies, TV, and music. You want influence from another country?
Well... yes. I don't think that anybody denies the existence of cultural warfare, and that Hollywood is one of the West's most effective weapons in said war. There's a reason why the Great Firewall of China exists.
There's a reason why Hollywood blacklisted those with suspected Communist sympathies.
There's a reason why K-Pop is heavily subsidized by the government.
I could go on and on.

How about our various celebrities/politicians who pick up twitter followers from around the world and then tweet something about Brexit or various wars or social causes across the globe. That's just as much "foreign interference on social media" and with far greater impact than anything Russia has ever done. And those can certainly "fan the flames." And if it's okay for our citizens/politicians to do that, why is it wrong for other countries? I mean, Pope Francis and Obama have massive global followings and they can influence millions around the world when it comes to political and social issues.
This treads close to Whataboutism (careful else you'll get painted a Ruskie!) but the question is reasonable.

    Personally, I feel that there are a couple answers. The first -- and most obvious -- reason is that the West generally uses it's soft power in a passive sense. Hollywood bombards the planet with suffrage, egalitarianism, democracy, and Coca Cola through all sorts of media. But receivers of all that culture stuff can, generally speaking, opt to turn off the television. Nobody is forcing the average Thai to drink carbonated poison water, buy smog producing automobiles, or save up every last Baht to send their offspring to an internationally recognized school. Russia, on the other hand, is actively using anonymous social media accounts to create divisiveness as a tool for cultural sabotage. The difference is in methods and intent.

If indeed there were issues that were simmering and then got "pushed" by Russia, what were those issues? Every issue I can think of that was "simmering" was pushed by our own internal divisions and disagreements, and any amplification got far more energy from ourselves than Russia. We saw this with Limbaugh and the rise of FOXNews. Then we saw it from the left during the Bush years with stuff like The Daily Show and Colbert. We saw it from endless Hollywood and MSM 'lecturing'. Then during Obama we saw it from the Tea Party and Birthers and Alex Jones followed up by SJWS, trigger warnings, mansplaining, and 'Ban Bossy'. Not to mention we still have lingering resentments from the Vietnam War.

I understand the concern and it's certainly something to monitor, but I simply disagree that it's effects have been significant beyond the outrage/scapegoating. As with any situation where people fight amongst themselves, it's far more likely that the people themselves are the cause, not any outside agency, especially when the outside agent's interference is as limited as Russia's was (it's not like they're funneling weapons and such).
I think that it is very difficult to properly assess how much cultural damage has been done by foreign agents. It's not like they're immediately identifiable as pro-russian-trolls.
And somebody seeking to deliberately cause damage will always be infinitely more dangerous than somebody posting inflammatory materials due to outrage etc. Cyberwarfare can cause far longer lasting problems than a truck full of AR15s.

As for the possibility that Trump is a Russian agent, while it certainly is plausible that he is sympathetic and positively disposed due to a history of deals, outright collusion seems rather implausible because he'd be risking getting hanged. At some point he would have bowed out.
I agree. Laughable.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1124 on: October 16, 2017, 02:53:17 PM »
Apparently Hillary Clinton, in addition to "accepting responsibility" but blaming Russia, Comey, racism, sexism, Obama, Bernie Sanders, the media and The New York Times :laugh:, Jill Stein, women, Netflix, Facebook, Twitter, Assange, Campaign Financing (despite having outspent Trump 2:1), and The DNC, is apparently now adding Nigel Farage to the list.

And people said Trump would have a hard time accepting the results and lacked temperament!

This from a candidate who ignored all warnings from Dems on the ground in the Midwest, her own 2-term husband-former President, rally sizes, lack of book sales, trusted in Hollywood and celebrities, and refused to meet her supporters on election night and concede.

Obama would have wiped the floor with Trump. Biden would have won in a walk. Sanders would probably have won a narrow race. This result is on her and her campaign.
trump is the president and the subject of this thread. Let's not derail it with hialry and pointless and probably incorrect predictions.

Why do YOU still support trumped up?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1125 on: October 16, 2017, 02:55:31 PM »

Nope, nope and nope.

Any post that starts with "i'm guessing" is probably going to be BS. No probably here.

Russian McDonald's commercial that's just like US ones: https://vimeo.com/50607995

Not even close.

You've  now posted how umpteen times the russkis had NO influence on the election. So how about some  proof beyond your silly analogies.


How's this for proof-

Dem ad: "Russia tricked you. Don't let them get away with it again. Take back this country from the Russians. Hillary lost because of Russian interference and we need you to be with Her. Vote Democratic in 2018".

Republican ad: "All the Democrats have done for the last 2 years is say you were tricked by the Russians and voted for Trump because of this ad (show graphic of facebook ad). Really? Make America Great Again in 2018."

Everyone in America (including much of the left and MSM that indulges in the Russia thing for ratings, would just look at the Democrats and be like "Are you insane?"

Now compare that with say a Dem ad that had something like this-

"We know why you voted the way you did in 2018. It wasn't Russia, it wasn't Comey, it wasn't racism. It's because you're hurting and you're angry. It's because you're working two jobs and are still in debt. It's because you once had a respectable job that let you take the family on vacation and now you're serving fries behind a counter to the friends of your children. It's because politicians in DC seem to be more interested in cozying up to Wall St. and outsourcing your jobs than caring about the millions of Americans all over the U.S. who were once part of our great middle class. It's because some of us have focused more on what skin color or gender you are than the fact that we're all Americans and we're all in this together. We've heard you and it is our mission to fight for you."

That's what Bill Clinton would have ran on. That's what Biden would have ran on. That's what Sanders was running on. And they'd have won. Guess what? That's what Trump ran on.

But go and run with Russia.

Let's have each side go with what they believe to be true. I think the results that would follow on such a campaign would be reflective of the truth- No one in America voted the way they did because of some Russian facebook ad.

I would LOVE, LOVE for the Democratic Party to make Russian "interference" the central issue in the 2018 campaign. After all, it apparently decided an election, not the economy, wars, jobs, trade, taxes, some shitty Obamacare Bronze plan that you have to buy or eat a tax penalty, SJW nonsense, and sanctuary cities. Nope, go with Russian interference.
What's with more fake news?

Why do YOU support trumped up and now the repugnicans? Just to have something to argue about, to try and fail to show how smart you are?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1126 on: October 16, 2017, 03:00:26 PM »
Chris Matthews gets it-

The Core of Trump Support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dO9u8n4s3M

The Incentive for Many Trump Supporters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFr-kLhO_0o

Election Night Analysis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7zV5_8leuE

What's Ailing the Democratic Party
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOFDDtIEpS4
A lot has come out (with more to come) since those videos were made so they are not rally applicable.

AND WHAT ABOUT YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR TRUMP?

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1127 on: October 16, 2017, 03:34:35 PM »
What about it? I have soft support for him. The economy is looking good. I enjoy how he's aggressively attacking the SJW-left and the MSM (I still rely on them, but I think they need their biases confronted), I like the pressure he is putting on the NK issue. I like how we're less confrontational with Russia. I agree with his position on DACA (tie protection in with border security), and tearing up TPP.

Is Trump perfect? No. I disagree with him on several issues- Obamacare reform and getting rid of the Iran deal. I wish he was focused more on tax reform and infrastructure. I think the travel ban was sloppy.

He was right to call out the violence on both sides when it comes to our protests (apparently both sides means 'only one side' to lefties :rolleyes:), his response to Puerto Rico has been mixed.

Most importantly, the left, outside of say Bernie Sanders, is completely unhinged, even more so than some of Trump's clownish supporters. Imagining things that aren't real, doubling down on SJW stuff, and just seemingly having no direction. We're talking serious levels of mass delusion and hysteria. Salem Witch Trial level stuff. By the way they talk, you'd think America was on the verge of some sort of Hitler-Stalin takeover and mass death, but it isn't.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1128 on: October 16, 2017, 05:54:26 PM »
What about it? I have soft support for him. The economy is looking good. I enjoy how he's aggressively attacking the SJW-left and the MSM (I still rely on them, but I think they need their biases confronted), I like the pressure he is putting on the NK issue. I like how we're less confrontational with Russia. I agree with his position on DACA (tie protection in with border security), and tearing up TPP.

Is Trump perfect? No. I disagree with him on several issues- Obamacare reform and getting rid of the Iran deal. I wish he was focused more on tax reform and infrastructure. I think the travel ban was sloppy.

He was right to call out the violence on both sides when it comes to our protests (apparently both sides means 'only one side' to lefties :rolleyes:), his response to Puerto Rico has been mixed.

Most importantly, the left, outside of say Bernie Sanders, is completely unhinged, even more so than some of Trump's clownish supporters. Imagining things that aren't real, doubling down on SJW stuff, and just seemingly having no direction. We're talking serious levels of mass delusion and hysteria. Salem Witch Trial level stuff. By the way they talk, you'd think America was on the verge of some sort of Hitler-Stalin takeover and mass death, but it isn't.
So you like the culture war stuff and you're giving him a pass on everything else. What's important to you is not that he accomplishes anything as president that moves the country forward but that he pokes the left in the eye with a sharp stick.

No wonder you spent most of your answer attacking the left rather than addressing issues of substance. Birds of a feather and all that.




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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1129 on: October 16, 2017, 05:56:08 PM »
This could get interesting:

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Larry Flynt, the creator of Hustler Magazine and producer of a galaxy of XXX-rated porn films, has announced a reward of $10 million for "information leading to the impeachment and removal from office of Donald J. Trump.” In a full-page ad in Sunday's Washington Post, Flynt provided details on the kind of information he thinks could serve this purpose, as well as his reasons for wanting the business reality star-turned-head of state removed from office.

Those apprentice tapes may see the light of day yet.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1130 on: October 16, 2017, 05:57:39 PM »
More russki interference:

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Along with Facebook, YouTube, Google, and Twitter, it seems that Nintendo's most popular augmented reality game was also used to exert foreign influence over American voters last year.

CNN reported yesterday that the mobile game Pokémon Go was involved in an online attempt to sway users' politics, and potentially to incite racial conflict. According to CNN, a Tumblr page linked to Russia's far-reaching Internet Research Agency was found to have promoted a contest for Pokémon Go players in July of 2016, and which seemingly sought to mimic aspects of the Black Lives Matter movement in order to engage users sympathetic to that cause.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/10/13/russia-reportedly-tried-to-enflame-u-s-with-pokemon-go-too/#41acc40472c9

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1131 on: October 16, 2017, 06:12:35 PM »
What about it? I have soft support for him. The economy is looking good. I enjoy how he's aggressively attacking the SJW-left and the MSM (I still rely on them, but I think they need their biases confronted), I like the pressure he is putting on the NK issue. I like how we're less confrontational with Russia. I agree with his position on DACA (tie protection in with border security), and tearing up TPP.

Is Trump perfect? No. I disagree with him on several issues- Obamacare reform and getting rid of the Iran deal. I wish he was focused more on tax reform and infrastructure. I think the travel ban was sloppy.

He was right to call out the violence on both sides when it comes to our protests (apparently both sides means 'only one side' to lefties :rolleyes:), his response to Puerto Rico has been mixed.

Most importantly, the left, outside of say Bernie Sanders, is completely unhinged, even more so than some of Trump's clownish supporters. Imagining things that aren't real, doubling down on SJW stuff, and just seemingly having no direction. We're talking serious levels of mass delusion and hysteria. Salem Witch Trial level stuff. By the way they talk, you'd think America was on the verge of some sort of Hitler-Stalin takeover and mass death, but it isn't.
So you like the culture war stuff and you're giving him a pass on everything else. What's important to you is not that he accomplishes anything as president that moves the country forward but that he pokes the left in the eye with a sharp stick.

No wonder you spent most of your answer attacking the left rather than addressing issues of substance. Birds of a feather and all that.

That makes sense only if you didn't read what I wrote.

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Along with Facebook, YouTube, Google, and Twitter, it seems that Nintendo's most popular augmented reality game was also used to exert foreign influence over American voters last year.

CNN reported yesterday that the mobile game Pokémon Go was involved in an online attempt to sway users' politics, and potentially to incite racial conflict. According to CNN, a Tumblr page linked to Russia's far-reaching Internet Research Agency was found to have promoted a contest for Pokémon Go players in July of 2016, and which seemingly sought to mimic aspects of the Black Lives Matter movement in order to engage users sympathetic to that cause.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/10/13/russia-reportedly-tried-to-enflame-u-s-with-pokemon-go-too/#41acc40472c9

It was all because of Russia and Pokemon Go! That'll win back the Senate.  :rolleyes:

No wonder the Republicans can run someone like Kid Rock and stand a decent chance of winning.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1132 on: October 16, 2017, 06:20:09 PM »
What about it? I have soft support for him. The economy is looking good. I enjoy how he's aggressively attacking the SJW-left and the MSM (I still rely on them, but I think they need their biases confronted), I like the pressure he is putting on the NK issue. I like how we're less confrontational with Russia. I agree with his position on DACA (tie protection in with border security), and tearing up TPP.

Is Trump perfect? No. I disagree with him on several issues- Obamacare reform and getting rid of the Iran deal. I wish he was focused more on tax reform and infrastructure. I think the travel ban was sloppy.

He was right to call out the violence on both sides when it comes to our protests (apparently both sides means 'only one side' to lefties :rolleyes:), his response to Puerto Rico has been mixed.

Most importantly, the left, outside of say Bernie Sanders, is completely unhinged, even more so than some of Trump's clownish supporters. Imagining things that aren't real, doubling down on SJW stuff, and just seemingly having no direction. We're talking serious levels of mass delusion and hysteria. Salem Witch Trial level stuff. By the way they talk, you'd think America was on the verge of some sort of Hitler-Stalin takeover and mass death, but it isn't.
So you like the culture war stuff and you're giving him a pass on everything else. What's important to you is not that he accomplishes anything as president that moves the country forward but that he pokes the left in the eye with a sharp stick.

No wonder you spent most of your answer attacking the left rather than addressing issues of substance. Birds of a feather and all that.

That makes sense only if you didn't read what I wrote.

More russki interference:

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Along with Facebook, YouTube, Google, and Twitter, it seems that Nintendo's most popular augmented reality game was also used to exert foreign influence over American voters last year.

CNN reported yesterday that the mobile game Pokémon Go was involved in an online attempt to sway users' politics, and potentially to incite racial conflict. According to CNN, a Tumblr page linked to Russia's far-reaching Internet Research Agency was found to have promoted a contest for Pokémon Go players in July of 2016, and which seemingly sought to mimic aspects of the Black Lives Matter movement in order to engage users sympathetic to that cause.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/10/13/russia-reportedly-tried-to-enflame-u-s-with-pokemon-go-too/#41acc40472c9

It was all because of Russia and Pokemon Go! That'll win back the Senate.  :rolleyes:

No wonder the Republicans can run someone like Kid Rock and stand a decent chance of winning.
It's exactly what you wrote. But go ahead and lie. That's your and trumped up's stock in trade.

It's not just Pokemon, of course. That's just one more piece of evidence you're dead set on ignoring because it doesn't suit your narrative.

Kid rock and the like can run because the repugs have spent countless billions making the American people hate and mistrust the government. And now the russkis are in on the game too.

You still don't know what's going on, do you Mr. Jones? Or is it Kim?


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1133 on: October 17, 2017, 10:08:57 AM »
Gregg Popovich:
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    “I’ve been amazed and disappointed by so much of what this President had said, and his approach to running this country, which seems to be one of just a never-ending divisiveness. But his comments today about those who have lost loved ones in times of war and his lies that previous presidents Obama and Bush never contacted their families, is so beyond the pale, I almost don’t have the words.”

    “This man in the Oval Office is a soulless coward who thinks that he can only become large by belittling others. This has of course been a common practice of his, but to do it in this manner – and to lie about how previous presidents responded to the deaths of soldiers – is as low as it gets.  We have a pathological liar in the White House: unfit intellectually, emotionally, and psychologically to hold this office and the whole world knows it, especially those around him every day. The people who work with this President should be ashamed because they know it better than anyone just how unfit he is, and yet they choose to do nothing about it. This is their shame most of all.”

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1134 on: October 17, 2017, 10:36:19 AM »
What about it? I have soft support for him. The economy is looking good. I enjoy how he's aggressively attacking the SJW-left and the MSM (I still rely on them, but I think they need their biases confronted), I like the pressure he is putting on the NK issue. I like how we're less confrontational with Russia. I agree with his position on DACA (tie protection in with border security), and tearing up TPP.

Is Trump perfect? No. I disagree with him on several issues- Obamacare reform and getting rid of the Iran deal. I wish he was focused more on tax reform and infrastructure. I think the travel ban was sloppy.

He was right to call out the violence on both sides when it comes to our protests (apparently both sides means 'only one side' to lefties :rolleyes:), his response to Puerto Rico has been mixed.

Most importantly, the left, outside of say Bernie Sanders, is completely unhinged, even more so than some of Trump's clownish supporters. Imagining things that aren't real, doubling down on SJW stuff, and just seemingly having no direction. We're talking serious levels of mass delusion and hysteria. Salem Witch Trial level stuff. By the way they talk, you'd think America was on the verge of some sort of Hitler-Stalin takeover and mass death, but it isn't.
So you like the culture war stuff and you're giving him a pass on everything else. What's important to you is not that he accomplishes anything as president that moves the country forward but that he pokes the left in the eye with a sharp stick.

No wonder you spent most of your answer attacking the left rather than addressing issues of substance. Birds of a feather and all that.

That makes sense only if you didn't read what I wrote.

More russki interference:

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Along with Facebook, YouTube, Google, and Twitter, it seems that Nintendo's most popular augmented reality game was also used to exert foreign influence over American voters last year.

CNN reported yesterday that the mobile game Pokémon Go was involved in an online attempt to sway users' politics, and potentially to incite racial conflict. According to CNN, a Tumblr page linked to Russia's far-reaching Internet Research Agency was found to have promoted a contest for Pokémon Go players in July of 2016, and which seemingly sought to mimic aspects of the Black Lives Matter movement in order to engage users sympathetic to that cause.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/10/13/russia-reportedly-tried-to-enflame-u-s-with-pokemon-go-too/#41acc40472c9

It was all because of Russia and Pokemon Go! That'll win back the Senate.  :rolleyes:

No wonder the Republicans can run someone like Kid Rock and stand a decent chance of winning.
It's exactly what you wrote. But go ahead and lie. That's your and trumped up's stock in trade.

gogators! It's right there in bold. You said I "gave him a pass on everything else", yet I specifically cited stuff I did not give him a pass on.

Anyone with eyes can look at those two sentences in bold and realize I'm not lying.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1135 on: October 17, 2017, 07:27:47 PM »
What about it? I have soft support for him. The economy is looking good. I enjoy how he's aggressively attacking the SJW-left and the MSM (I still rely on them, but I think they need their biases confronted), I like the pressure he is putting on the NK issue. I like how we're less confrontational with Russia. I agree with his position on DACA (tie protection in with border security), and tearing up TPP.

Is Trump perfect? No. I disagree with him on several issues- Obamacare reform and getting rid of the Iran deal. I wish he was focused more on tax reform and infrastructure. I think the travel ban was sloppy.

He was right to call out the violence on both sides when it comes to our protests (apparently both sides means 'only one side' to lefties :rolleyes:), his response to Puerto Rico has been mixed.

Most importantly, the left, outside of say Bernie Sanders, is completely unhinged, even more so than some of Trump's clownish supporters. Imagining things that aren't real, doubling down on SJW stuff, and just seemingly having no direction. We're talking serious levels of mass delusion and hysteria. Salem Witch Trial level stuff. By the way they talk, you'd think America was on the verge of some sort of Hitler-Stalin takeover and mass death, but it isn't.
So you like the culture war stuff and you're giving him a pass on everything else. What's important to you is not that he accomplishes anything as president that moves the country forward but that he pokes the left in the eye with a sharp stick.

No wonder you spent most of your answer attacking the left rather than addressing issues of substance. Birds of a feather and all that.

That makes sense only if you didn't read what I wrote.

More russki interference:

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Along with Facebook, YouTube, Google, and Twitter, it seems that Nintendo's most popular augmented reality game was also used to exert foreign influence over American voters last year.

CNN reported yesterday that the mobile game Pokémon Go was involved in an online attempt to sway users' politics, and potentially to incite racial conflict. According to CNN, a Tumblr page linked to Russia's far-reaching Internet Research Agency was found to have promoted a contest for Pokémon Go players in July of 2016, and which seemingly sought to mimic aspects of the Black Lives Matter movement in order to engage users sympathetic to that cause.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/janetwburns/2017/10/13/russia-reportedly-tried-to-enflame-u-s-with-pokemon-go-too/#41acc40472c9

It was all because of Russia and Pokemon Go! That'll win back the Senate.  :rolleyes:

No wonder the Republicans can run someone like Kid Rock and stand a decent chance of winning.
It's exactly what you wrote. But go ahead and lie. That's your and trumped up's stock in trade.

gogators! It's right there in bold. You said I "gave him a pass on everything else", yet I specifically cited stuff I did not give him a pass on.

Anyone with eyes can look at those two sentences in bold and realize I'm not lying.
LOL. "Sloppy"--that's tough criticism!?!

BTW the TPP was dead long before trump--killed by liberals like myself, not xenophobes like you.

You are very confused, comrade.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1136 on: October 17, 2017, 08:06:50 PM »
Not according to Chris Matthews, that oh so Republican voice of MSNBC.

"She didn't come out against TPP until right at the very end, and nobody really believed her."

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1137 on: October 17, 2017, 08:24:47 PM »
Not according to Chris Matthews, that oh so Republican voice of MSNBC.

"She didn't come out against TPP until right at the very end, and nobody really believed her."

It was dead. Funny how now the mainstream media is your best friend.

No way the TPP was going anywhere.

BTW, in case you hadn't noticed, a malignant narcissist named trump is president and he's being investigated for colluding with the russkis. You might want to catch up.

And stop the derail.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1138 on: October 18, 2017, 07:28:53 AM »
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last checked in on Donald Trump's approval numbers when they were rising modestly. They've now been retreating, at least by FiveThirtyEight's estimate, for the last three weeks, and he's now back down to 37.7 percent approval. Some of this movement could just be random fluctuation, and the exact estimates are different from various poll averagers; RealClearPolitics, for example, has him slightly higher. But the basic story is about the same.

Trump is (again per FiveThirtyEight) back in last place in approval ratings at this number of days after being sworn in of any president in the polling era.

And his "net" approval (subtracting disapproval) has been the worst among those 13 presidents every day of his presidency, and it's never been particularly close. Currently he's within a single percentage point of same-day Gerald Ford in approval, but at -18.3, his net approval is 9 percentage points worse than Ford's, and every other president was in positive territory at this point.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-10-16/trump-s-numbers-are-really-really-bad?cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #1139 on: October 18, 2017, 02:15:51 PM »
No wonder he had to be shamed into calling families of soldiers killed in action:
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A Florida congresswoman described President Donald Trump’s phone call to the widow of a soldier killed during an ambush in Niger as “insensitive” after the president reportedly said the man “must’ve known what he signed up for.”

Rep. Frederica Wilson (D-Fla.) was in the car with Myeshia Johnson, the pregnant widow of Army Sgt. La David Johnson, when Trump called her Tuesday and spoke for about five minutes, according to South Florida’s NBC affiliate.

“Sarcastically he said: ‘But you know he must have known what he signed up for,’” Wilson recounted to NBC6. “How could you say that to a grieving widow? I couldn’t believe... and he said it more than once. I said this man has no feelings for anyone. This is a young woman with child who is grieved to her soul.”

Can you spell malignant narcissist boys and girls?

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He then used the opportunity to falsely assert that his predecessors “didn’t make calls” themselves.

Former President Barack Obama frequently called the families of soldiers killed in action and visited those wounded during his administration. President George W. Bush visited troops at the Walter Reed medical center 16 times before he left office.
Trump returned to the subject Tuesday, using the death of Chief of Staff John Kelly’s son in 2010 to illustrate Obama’s record on calling bereaved families, saying his predecessor did not call in that instance. Obama invited Kelly and his wife, Karen, to a breakfast in 2011 for Gold Star families who have lost children in combat. They were seated at a table with first lady Michelle Obama.

Can you spell pathological liar, boys and girls?