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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7140 on: November 27, 2017, 09:02:32 AM »
1) No, I'm using the ****** classroom computer whether you want me to or not. I'm the one who made it run better to begin with because you guys had a crap-ton of malware and unnecessary software installed on the betch, so if it's running slow, it's not because of me, it's because of something you or a student ****** did. Look, see? I found a shit-ton of malware, and no, it wasn't put there by me. Stop ****** blaming the foreigner every time something isn't working right. Oh, you mean no one else has had access to this computer? Are you ****** sure about that? Because you guys leave this ****** computer unattended and unlocked all the ****** time so that anyone can get to it. Oh, the students would never get on the computer without permission and you're positive that none of the other teachers have been ****** around it (including yourself)? Okay, Ima install this motion detection software on this ****** thing to see who gets on and then we'll see about that. *comes in next week to KT insisting that I just sit in the classroom and stare at the ****** desk instead of using the computer because it's running slow again and they're positive that's MY fault* It's not my fault, I left the computer in more than perfect working order last week, and it just so happened to crap out in the middle of the week while I wasn't even here? Have YOU done anything to the computer? No, you haven't been on it? What about the students? You've already told me that the students would never touch it without permission? Okay, okay. *checks backlog of saved recordings, finds a TON of vids of KTs and students using the computer throughout the week, shows everyone, continues using the computer without any more arguments, removes all the ****** software installed by the students and the malware that got installed along with them* ****** children. And not even talking about the students.

Our school computers have the passwords written on sticky notes attached to the monitor. Boggles the mind.
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« Reply #7141 on: November 27, 2017, 09:41:13 AM »
1) No, I'm using the ****** classroom computer whether you want me to or not. I'm the one who made it run better to begin with because you guys had a crap-ton of malware and unnecessary software installed on the betch, so if it's running slow, it's not because of me, it's because of something you or a student ****** did. Look, see? I found a shit-ton of malware, and no, it wasn't put there by me. Stop ****** blaming the foreigner every time something isn't working right. Oh, you mean no one else has had access to this computer? Are you ****** sure about that? Because you guys leave this ****** computer unattended and unlocked all the ****** time so that anyone can get to it. Oh, the students would never get on the computer without permission and you're positive that none of the other teachers have been ****** around it (including yourself)? Okay, Ima install this motion detection software on this ****** thing to see who gets on and then we'll see about that. *comes in next week to KT insisting that I just sit in the classroom and stare at the ****** desk instead of using the computer because it's running slow again and they're positive that's MY fault* It's not my fault, I left the computer in more than perfect working order last week, and it just so happened to crap out in the middle of the week while I wasn't even here? Have YOU done anything to the computer? No, you haven't been on it? What about the students? You've already told me that the students would never touch it without permission? Okay, okay. *checks backlog of saved recordings, finds a TON of vids of KTs and students using the computer throughout the week, shows everyone, continues using the computer without any more arguments, removes all the ****** software installed by the students and the malware that got installed along with them* ****** children. And not even talking about the students.

Our school computers have the passwords written on sticky notes attached to the monitor. Boggles the mind.

Bonus points if they are “strong” passwords.

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« Reply #7142 on: November 27, 2017, 09:47:53 AM »
That is too funny.  I had the same type of conversation about the computer I had to share ages ago (blame the NET game).

The password thing is SO true.  What is the point?

At every computer in the school, all you have to do is lift the keyboard to find the passwords.

Pretty ridiculous.

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« Reply #7143 on: November 27, 2017, 09:52:40 AM »
when i worked at public school, i complained about my computer being slow a few times. the IT person would come and 'fix' it, by intstalling a lot of korean bloatware onto it, after which it would run even slower! needless to say, after i re-uninstalled them, it 'magically' sped up again. made no sense

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« Reply #7144 on: November 27, 2017, 10:38:15 AM »
I can't believe these 6th graders think the Han river is bigger than the Amazon river.

And Jeju is bigger than Hawaii.


They act shocked and offended when I show them the comparisons.

Do they do Geography in elementary school? Not sure they do. They don't learn History until the 2nd grade of middle school.
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« Reply #7145 on: November 27, 2017, 10:39:49 AM »
I can't believe these 6th graders think the Han river is bigger than the Amazon river.

And Jeju is bigger than Hawaii.


They act shocked and offended when I show them the comparisons.

I told a class of students that a tomato was a fruit on friday.  The look of shock, horror and disbelief on their faces was amazing.  It was if i was perfoming sorcery in the class.  Their minds were exploding.

I teach in a university!

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« Reply #7146 on: November 27, 2017, 10:49:05 AM »
I can't believe these 6th graders think the Han river is bigger than the Amazon river.

And Jeju is bigger than Hawaii.


They act shocked and offended when I show them the comparisons.

I told a class of students that a tomato was a fruit on friday.  The look of shock, horror and disbelief on their faces was amazing.  It was if i was perfoming sorcery in the class.  Their minds were exploding.

I teach in a university!
Why the f do they put it in the fruit salads then???????????
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« Reply #7147 on: November 27, 2017, 10:52:33 AM »
I can't believe these 6th graders think the Han river is bigger than the Amazon river.

And Jeju is bigger than Hawaii.


They act shocked and offended when I show them the comparisons.

Do they do Geography in elementary school? Not sure they do. They don't learn History until the 2nd grade of middle school.

Nope, when teaching comparatives I showed a side by side picture of Africa and South America.
I asked which continent had more countries. Even the HR teacher (no CT teacher for that class), could tell which was South America and which was Africa.

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« Reply #7148 on: November 27, 2017, 11:28:38 AM »
I can't believe these 6th graders think the Han river is bigger than the Amazon river.

And Jeju is bigger than Hawaii.


They act shocked and offended when I show them the comparisons.

I told a class of students that a tomato was a fruit on friday.  The look of shock, horror and disbelief on their faces was amazing.  It was if i was perfoming sorcery in the class.  Their minds were exploding.

I teach in a university!

Almost every Korean I've ever met has considered a tomato a fruit.

What a strange thing to ask every Korean you meet.

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« Reply #7149 on: November 27, 2017, 11:40:23 AM »
I told a class of students that a tomato was a fruit on friday.  The look of shock, horror and disbelief on their faces was amazing.

Did you know that peanuts are legumes (beans)?
That vanilla is a fruit?
Strawberries, apples and pears are technically not actual fruit?
Coffee beans are berries?
Rhubarb is a vegetable?

One could make a pretty interesting goldenbell ppt out of food/plant facts.  :smiley:

Also, as Miles Kington once said: “Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.”

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« Reply #7150 on: November 27, 2017, 11:44:24 AM »
I told a class of students that a tomato was a fruit on friday.  The look of shock, horror and disbelief on their faces was amazing.

Did you know that peanuts are legumes (beans)?
That vanilla is a fruit?
Strawberries, apples and pears are technically not actual fruit?
Coffee beans are berries?
Rhubarb is a vegetable?

One could make a pretty interesting goldenbell ppt out of food/plant facts.  :smiley:

Also, as Miles Kington once said: “Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.”

That moment when one realizes I've no idea what I've really been eating all these years  :shocked:

Vanilla is the most shocking

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« Reply #7151 on: November 27, 2017, 11:49:43 AM »
I can't believe these 6th graders think the Han river is bigger than the Amazon river.
And Jeju is bigger than Hawaii.
They act shocked and offended when I show them the comparisons.

I'm not at all surprised that people here (not just kids) would think that Jeju is bigger than Hawaii. How well do most citizens know the relative size of obscure islands belonging to foreign nations?

For example, I wouldn't be at all surprised or offended if some random English speaking expat didn't know that Vancouver Island is bigger than the Hawaiian islands.  :undecided:

...on the other hand, thinking that a tiny river like the Han is bigger than the Amazon is a bit mind-boggling. The Amazon discharges around 350 times as much water per second.
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« Reply #7152 on: November 27, 2017, 12:08:35 PM »
Vancouver Island is practically the same size as the Republic of Korea.

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« Reply #7153 on: November 27, 2017, 12:15:08 PM »
Vancouver Island is practically the same size as the Republic of Korea.

Really?? Because I'm getting 100 000km2 for S Korea and 31 200km2 for Van Island.
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« Reply #7154 on: November 27, 2017, 12:16:57 PM »
Vancouver Island is practically the same size as the Republic of Korea.
Well, about 1/3 the size of south Korea. It's actually only about 8% larger than Hawai'i, which is why I used it for my example.  :smiley:

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« Reply #7155 on: November 27, 2017, 12:22:57 PM »
I told a class of students that a tomato was a fruit on friday.  The look of shock, horror and disbelief on their faces was amazing.

Did you know that peanuts are legumes (beans)? Yes, more of a pea than a nut
That vanilla is a fruit? As it is a seed pod, it fits the definition perfectly
Strawberries, apples and pears are technically not actual fruit? technically they are berries - a pod holding multiple seeds, which ironically mmeans most fruit we call "berries" are not actually berries - The strawberry is actually a "false fruit" as the seeds are not encased withing the flesh/casing
Coffee beans are berries? no, the coffee cherry is a berry (multiple seeds in a pod/case), but the coffee "bean" is the stone inside.  Akin to a peach pitt if you will.
Rhubarb is a vegetable? Rhubarb is indeed a vegetable.  I come from the area known as "The Rhubarb triangle"!

One could make a pretty interesting goldenbell ppt out of food/plant facts.  :smiley:

Also, as Miles Kington once said: “Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.”
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« Reply #7156 on: November 27, 2017, 02:10:22 PM »
Coffee beans are berries? no, the coffee cherry is a berry (multiple seeds in a pod/case), but the coffee "bean" is the stone inside.  Akin to a peach pitt if you will.
Good catch. Your absolutely right: I meant to say / should have said "from a berry".


First of all, it's not a matter of taking offence. It's just an example of how small of a world view people can have. Secondly, most adult Koreans know that their country is very small. Even if adult Koreans didnt know the relative size of Hawaii, they wouldn't be shocked to hear that it's bigger than any place in Korea. I think the students just haven't realised it yet. Third, Hawaii is not an obscure island. They know what Hawaii is. Whenever I ask my students what they know about the USA, Hawaii is always up there with L.A./California, NY, Texas etc.

Not knowing something is different than being shocked/unaccepting of the information. I don't think they understand the relative size of anything in Korea to anywhere else in the world.
     Knowing about a place, doesn't mean that one necessarily knows much about its geography.
I know a fair bit about the Azores, the Falklands, Sicily, the Shetlands, and Guam, but without access to google, I would be hesitant about ranking them from largest to smallest (I have an idea, but I wouldn't put a lot of money on it).
     Whether something is obscure or not really is a matter of perspective. Most North Americans will know a fair amount about Hawai'i and Vancouver Island and not so much about the Shetlands and the Falklands. Most folk from the UK will be the opposite.
     Most Koreans are constantly told that Jeju-do is the biggest and most tropical island in Korea, so I'm not surprised that that would figure in their comparisons with other Islands elsewhere. Tie a generous dollop of nationalism to that, and their impressions will be even more skewed.

And you're right: it's not a matter of offence. I meant that sentence to apply to me personally, not to people in general -- I apologize if I gave the wrong impression.  :smiley:

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« Reply #7157 on: November 28, 2017, 07:50:34 AM »
I can't believe these 6th graders think the Han river is bigger than the Amazon river.

And Jeju is bigger than Hawaii.


They act shocked and offended when I show them the comparisons.

Very interesting.  And completely different from my experience in five or six years of teaching comparisons to sixth graders.  I have a PPT where students must make sentences based on the pictures and the positive adjective.  Not even once has a group said the Han is wider than the Amazon or Namsan Tower is taller than Eiffel Tower.  Nowadays, they usually even know that Hyperion Tower is taller than 63 building.

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« Reply #7158 on: November 28, 2017, 07:53:43 AM »
I can't believe these 6th graders think the Han river is bigger than the Amazon river.

And Jeju is bigger than Hawaii.


They act shocked and offended when I show them the comparisons.

I told a class of students that a tomato was a fruit on friday.  The look of shock, horror and disbelief on their faces was amazing.  It was if i was perfoming sorcery in the class.  Their minds were exploding.

I teach in a university!
Possibly because you decided to foist upon them one of the most tedious facts in the history of mankind?

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« Reply #7159 on: November 28, 2017, 07:57:17 AM »
I can't believe these 6th graders think the Han river is bigger than the Amazon river.

And Jeju is bigger than Hawaii.


They act shocked and offended when I show them the comparisons.

I told a class of students that a tomato was a fruit on friday.  The look of shock, horror and disbelief on their faces was amazing.  It was if i was perfoming sorcery in the class.  Their minds were exploding.

I teach in a university!
Possibly because you decided to foist upon them one of the most tedious facts in the history of mankind?


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