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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3600 on: December 27, 2016, 02:40:53 PM »
Not a rant, but more relevant to the recent discussion of deskwarming...

So my coT isn't gonna be here for camp this time (which is fine, these are responsible middle school kids. If it was elementary, I'd be a little stressed out) and today asked if I could keep track of attendance throughout camp. No problem.

Then she asked if I could keep attendance of... myself. Haha? Apparently some higher ups are requiring sign-in sheets for NETs. Idk if it's just my county or what. I guess they don't trust NETs to show up and deskwarm. Kind of annoying, not a huge deal, but really?  :undecided:

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3601 on: December 28, 2016, 10:30:05 AM »
Staff dinner last night.  Samgyapsal.  Now my winter coat smells like fried pork.

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« Reply #3602 on: December 28, 2016, 11:02:43 AM »
Finding a decent place to live in Seoul is miserable. Everything that's new or remodeled has awful built-in washing machines and gas / electric ranges. Everything older is scummy and dirty.

And everything is offensively expensive.

Buying or renting? 

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« Reply #3603 on: December 28, 2016, 11:09:30 AM »
Finding a decent place to live in Seoul is miserable. Everything that's new or remodeled has awful built-in washing machines and gas / electric ranges. Everything older is scummy and dirty.

And everything is offensively expensive.

why don't you like built in washing machines or cooking ranges?

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« Reply #3604 on: December 28, 2016, 11:15:01 AM »
Staff dinner last night.  Samgyapsal.  Now my winter coat smells like fried pork.

At least you didn't have live abalone... :huh:

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« Reply #3605 on: December 28, 2016, 11:16:01 AM »
 :cheesy: : Hey, I know you wanted to see my camp materials, but since you wanted me to focus on speaking, it's not really using a lot of powerpoints
 :smiley: : I agree, since it is speaking it doesn't need powerpoint
 :cheesy: : So, I wrote out my camp plan to show you
 :undecided: : But I already wrote the camp plan...
 :cheesy: : I mean the plan for my section of the camp
 :smiley: : Oh ok
 :cheesy: : (showing the plan) So, on the first day first thing I want to ask them if there's anything they want to learn about
 :undecided: : I don't think that's a good idea
 :huh: : ??
 :undecided: : They are first graders
 :cheesy: : I know they might not have anything they want to learn about, but I want to ask them just in case, to make it fun for them
 :undecided: : But there is not enough time to make a lesson
 :cheesy: : Oh, well I wouldn't change the whole camp for that. Maybe just one lesson. I'd have enough time for that
 :undecided: : But you are the teacher. You should have already planned all the lessons
 :huh: : I... I did already plan all the lessons. I'm showing you my plan right now

Seriously, what?

 

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« Reply #3606 on: December 28, 2016, 11:37:27 AM »
:cheesy: : Hey, I know you wanted to see my camp materials, but since you wanted me to focus on speaking, it's not really using a lot of powerpoints
 :smiley: : I agree, since it is speaking it doesn't need powerpoint
 :cheesy: : So, I wrote out my camp plan to show you
 :undecided: : But I already wrote the camp plan...
 :cheesy: : I mean the plan for my section of the camp
 :smiley: : Oh ok
 :cheesy: : (showing the plan) So, on the first day first thing I want to ask them if there's anything they want to learn about
 :undecided: : I don't think that's a good idea
 :huh: : ??
 :undecided: : They are first graders
 :cheesy: : I know they might not have anything they want to learn about, but I want to ask them just in case, to make it fun for them
 :undecided: : But there is not enough time to make a lesson
 :cheesy: : Oh, well I wouldn't change the whole camp for that. Maybe just one lesson. I'd have enough time for that
 :undecided: : But you are the teacher. You should have already planned all the lessons
 :huh: : I... I did already plan all the lessons. I'm showing you my plan right now

Seriously, what?

 


I see what you're going for there, but I can get your coteacher's reaction, too. Back when I first started teaching here, I thought I'd try the whole 'self-motivated / choose your own lesson' thing, and it was poorly received by coworkers and students. In another educational environment, it might work well, but here it comes across as confusing and ill-prepared. Not your fault - like I said, I tried it, too.

I'm just like baffled by her insinuation that I didn't have a plan, because the plan was literally right in front of her and I was running through it.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3607 on: December 28, 2016, 11:46:29 AM »
Staff dinner last night.  Samgyapsal.  Now my winter coat smells like fried pork.

At least you didn't have live abalone... :huh:

I'm just not a fan of seafood... I know it's expensive though!

Well, I don't see how anyone could complain after eating abalone. So good.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3608 on: December 28, 2016, 11:52:42 AM »
God I can't wait until I'm done with this. Jerk boss just accosted me about some work I was never told to do asking why it wasn't done. They had apparently wanted me to write questions for 28 stories from this story book, but I had initially been told - very specifically - to only write questions for 10. I showed them those, and they said that it wasn't enough questions. These are super simple stories like the tortoise and the hare, and I'd only been able to think up 5-6 questions for each because they're just so simple.

For once in her entire life she actually gave some helpful suggestions on how to write more ridiculously simple questions for these simple stories but... ugh. They way she tells me to do anything is super abrasive and confrontational and it puts me on edge.

And apparently I have to make an English newspaper by the end of winter camp, yay.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3609 on: December 28, 2016, 11:56:05 AM »
:cheesy: : Hey, I know you wanted to see my camp materials, but since you wanted me to focus on speaking, it's not really using a lot of powerpoints
 :smiley: : I agree, since it is speaking it doesn't need powerpoint
 :cheesy: : So, I wrote out my camp plan to show you
 :undecided: : But I already wrote the camp plan...
 :cheesy: : I mean the plan for my section of the camp
 :smiley: : Oh ok
 :cheesy: : (showing the plan) So, on the first day first thing I want to ask them if there's anything they want to learn about
 :undecided: : I don't think that's a good idea
 :huh: : ??
 :undecided: : They are first graders
 :cheesy: : I know they might not have anything they want to learn about, but I want to ask them just in case, to make it fun for them
 :undecided: : But there is not enough time to make a lesson
 :cheesy: : Oh, well I wouldn't change the whole camp for that. Maybe just one lesson. I'd have enough time for that
 :undecided: : But you are the teacher. You should have already planned all the lessons
 :huh: : I... I did already plan all the lessons. I'm showing you my plan right now

Seriously, what?

 


I see what you're going for there, but I can get your coteacher's reaction, too. Back when I first started teaching here, I thought I'd try the whole 'self-motivated / choose your own lesson' thing, and it was poorly received by coworkers and students. In another educational environment, it might work well, but here it comes across as confusing and ill-prepared. Not your fault - like I said, I tried it, too.

I'm just like baffled by her insinuation that I didn't have a plan, because the plan was literally right in front of her and I was running through it.

I like to give my students choices, but I've learned that if it's super open ended then they sometimes have more difficulty. If you have a small selection of options for them to see if they learn more toward one or another, I think that can work fairly well.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3610 on: December 28, 2016, 12:27:56 PM »
I usually use a healthy cereal, like toasted muesli, however, I haven't been able to find it here, so I get the blueberry special K :P

I usually buy my muesli from a local store here, but I am positive I've seen it being sold in the cereal aisles in either Emart or Homeplus (could have been both, but definitely one of them).

Some bakeries will also have it, but not most -- this much seems really random, honestly.

Otherwise, there's always coupang or gmarket. xD

It's not in the homeplus in my town. I look everytime I go there, which is almost every day haha.

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« Reply #3611 on: December 28, 2016, 12:29:57 PM »
Man I am about ready to give up on this hospital business.

I finally got my MRI yesterday, nothing was amiss. After discussing the results with me the neurologist just went on again like "hmmmmm I don't know" and then told me I should go to a university hospital.

It's really hard to focus when you constantly feel like your head is spinning and like you're going to vomit. But I don't have that much work to do anymore, and the semester is almost over. Even if I feel sick I can just lump around or take a nap without worrying. But they told me this all needs to get done within a week. So....?????

Have you gone to see a dentist? I spent a year in agony going from doctor to doctor, to specialist to specialist and getting scan after scan done. Each referral took me closer and closer to Seoul and to bigger and bigger hospitals. The university hospital I went to put me on epilepsy medicine with the diagnosis being possible TM Neuralgia because nothing else came close to matching. That medicine was something else and then some. I decided I wanted my mommy before I stabbed myself in the head to stop the pain and flew home. Went to the dentist while I was there and found out I needed a root canal and had 7 additional holes.

Hmm that's possible. I'm a little worried about going to the dentist in Korea bc I've heard some horror stories about unanesthetized surgeries, but I'm due for a cleaning and it's cheaper than back home...

@kimchimandu - thanks, I'll try calling them

I've been to the dentist 3 times in my time here. All were very good, but they didn't look at the problem I went in about. I took my co-teacher all 3 times, he understood what I wanted, but they still didn't look at what I went in for. :\

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3612 on: December 28, 2016, 12:39:12 PM »
I am so physically and emotionally drained that I'm worried I'm going to take my frustration out on someone I care about.

I've been listening to the teachers talk about how glad they are that they don't have to work on Friday and vacation starts next week, and my co-teacher turns to me and says, "I'm sorry, but foreigners have to work on Friday."

I know it's all in the contract, but my God how pointless is deskwarming? I NEED a mental health day. And then camp for two weeks.... Why do we even have camp? One of the biggest appeals of teaching is the long vacations, but we have to fill them with camps here.

More like how great is deskwarming, am I right? Literally getting paid to read a book or study. And you get to use the school's heat, water, internet, etc.

I'd prefer to have vacation, but I mean, deskwarming is kind of a unique pleasure.

Deskwarming is better than Camp, but I'd still rather have more vacation.
Deskwarming is great because I can focus on studying when I don't have the time / motivation to do it at home, but I could easily be doing nothing at home.

I think they don't realise, we need breaks just as much as the Korean teachers. We may work less here compared to them (comparable amounts in some cases, I'm sure), but we have a lot of difficulties here compared to the Korean teachers that we should get a break from. At least, camp / deskwarming makes it feel like they 'don't understand our unique situation' haha.

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« Reply #3613 on: December 28, 2016, 12:53:21 PM »
Finding a decent place to live in Seoul is miserable. Everything that's new or remodeled has awful built-in washing machines and gas / electric ranges. Everything older is scummy and dirty.

And everything is offensively expensive.

Should have seen the gas range offered in my first apartment here (I'm not in Seoul). It sparked when it was turned on. So using the appliance allowance, I got a nice electric one now. :D

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #3614 on: December 28, 2016, 01:39:00 PM »
I am so physically and emotionally drained that I'm worried I'm going to take my frustration out on someone I care about.

I've been listening to the teachers talk about how glad they are that they don't have to work on Friday and vacation starts next week, and my co-teacher turns to me and says, "I'm sorry, but foreigners have to work on Friday."

I know it's all in the contract, but my God how pointless is deskwarming? I NEED a mental health day. And then camp for two weeks.... Why do we even have camp? One of the biggest appeals of teaching is the long vacations, but we have to fill them with camps here.

More like how great is deskwarming, am I right? Literally getting paid to read a book or study. And you get to use the school's heat, water, internet, etc.

I'd prefer to have vacation, but I mean, deskwarming is kind of a unique pleasure.

Deskwarming is better than Camp, but I'd still rather have more vacation.
Deskwarming is great because I can focus on studying when I don't have the time / motivation to do it at home, but I could easily be doing nothing at home.

I think they don't realise, we need breaks just as much as the Korean teachers. We may work less here compared to them (comparable amounts in some cases, I'm sure), but we have a lot of difficulties here compared to the Korean teachers that we should get a break from. At least, camp / deskwarming makes it feel like they 'don't understand our unique situation' haha.

There used to be no camps back in the day.  Those days are long, long gone now.  :(

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« Reply #3615 on: December 28, 2016, 01:48:50 PM »
"Robin Teacher, you need to have a video of a class."
"Okay."
"Can you do it tomorrow?"
"Well, we've finished the book. I guess I could prepare a review lesson but we're just watching a movie in all our classes..."
"Okay. Have a plan by 3pm." [5 mins ago]

It's 3rd grade who are my least favorite students and I am out of material. Thanks for the extra dose of stress as I'm trying to get camp ready. They could have filmed any of my book lessons but no, wait until we're completely finished and then make a lesson in 10 minutes.

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« Reply #3616 on: December 28, 2016, 02:36:13 PM »
I am so physically and emotionally drained that I'm worried I'm going to take my frustration out on someone I care about.

I've been listening to the teachers talk about how glad they are that they don't have to work on Friday and vacation starts next week, and my co-teacher turns to me and says, "I'm sorry, but foreigners have to work on Friday."

I know it's all in the contract, but my God how pointless is deskwarming? I NEED a mental health day. And then camp for two weeks.... Why do we even have camp? One of the biggest appeals of teaching is the long vacations, but we have to fill them with camps here.

More like how great is deskwarming, am I right? Literally getting paid to read a book or study. And you get to use the school's heat, water, internet, etc.

I'd prefer to have vacation, but I mean, deskwarming is kind of a unique pleasure.

Deskwarming is better than Camp, but I'd still rather have more vacation.
Deskwarming is great because I can focus on studying when I don't have the time / motivation to do it at home, but I could easily be doing nothing at home.

I think they don't realise, we need breaks just as much as the Korean teachers. We may work less here compared to them (comparable amounts in some cases, I'm sure), but we have a lot of difficulties here compared to the Korean teachers that we should get a break from. At least, camp / deskwarming makes it feel like they 'don't understand our unique situation' haha.

There used to be no camps back in the day.  Those days are long, long gone now.  :(

Why do you think they started camps? Pressure from the parents? Teachers complaining we have too much time off?

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« Reply #3617 on: December 28, 2016, 02:41:55 PM »
Why do you think they started camps? Pressure from the parents? Teachers complaining we have too much time off?

I've read it was because a bunch of NETs kept complaining about the amount of deskwarming they had to do, especially when comparing their own setups to other NETs who were permitted to stay home or take longer vacations at the discretion of their schools.

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« Reply #3618 on: December 28, 2016, 03:10:18 PM »
Why do you think they started camps? Pressure from the parents? Teachers complaining we have too much time off?

I've read it was because a bunch of NETs kept complaining about the amount of deskwarming they had to do, especially when comparing their own setups to other NETs who were permitted to stay home or take longer vacations at the discretion of their schools.

This would be a totally different job without camps. I can't imagine. Camp is easily the hardest part of this job.

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« Reply #3619 on: December 28, 2016, 03:13:41 PM »
Why do you think they started camps? Pressure from the parents? Teachers complaining we have too much time off?

I've read it was because a bunch of NETs kept complaining about the amount of deskwarming they had to do, especially when comparing their own setups to other NETs who were permitted to stay home or take longer vacations at the discretion of their schools.

This would be a totally different job without camps. I can't imagine. Camp is easily the hardest part of this job.

I'm curious why you think that? I've probably had it easy -- week long camp at most, I get to do what I want, and it usually involves candy. I'm not a superfan but it's not...awful?