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« Reply #2620 on: November 22, 2016, 10:56:46 AM »
Also, if you have trouble with chopsticks, most places do keep forks for when kids or tourists are eating.

ummm .... it's not the chopstick use i struggle with. read my post again. clearly no-one struggles with a spoon.

but you know, if you struggle with reading comprehension i am an English teacher, and would be more than happy to give you some lessons. my usual price is 50k per hour,  but i'll give you the special 'intellectually challenged' discount i give to my kids with Down Syndrome etc.

That made me laugh out loud  :laugh:

Between those two guys rippin each other and everyone else randomly taking a giant dump on food in the U.K, this thread is gold  :laugh: :laugh:  :laugh:

But then I remember I'm from the U.K.....  :cry:

Naysayers, who haven't enjoyed the fine British dining experience that is Nando's.

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« Reply #2621 on: November 22, 2016, 12:57:34 PM »
Erm... snails, pate (minced liver) Foie Grois (essentially Goose hapatitis), Cow's tongue, Tetines (cow's udders), calf pancreas.  I could go on, but there is no point.  All culture keep "peasant food" even after prosperity has arrived.  Frankly, i think they are the best examples of a culture food.  Give me haggis or a hotpot over a quiche anyday!

have you ever eaten any of those dishes? i've had all of them, and all of them are superb. the difference is the way in which they're prepared, which is what gives them their flavor. if you took those things and just tossed them in a pot with some red pepper paste they would taste like garbage, of course.

and that was my entire point to begin with. that the way korean food is prepared is just super-lazy.

to give you another example - samgyetang. i love samgyetang, i think it tastes great, and i could eat it all day. but why is a half chicken just thrown in there? why do i have to struggle with a ****** spoon and chopsticks to try and get the meat off the bone? the soup should be cooked with the chicken in, the chicken removed, the edible meat properly cut from the bone and then placed back in the soup. but that would take effort and skill, something that is severely lacking from a lot (most?) of korean cooking.

Yeah, I agree with you. Part of what puts me off of Korean food is how hard it is to get to the actual good stuff. I don't like trying to eat around bones and cartilage. Where I'm from, that stuff goes in the garbage. It's unpleasant to eat if you're not used to it. Even if the food tastes good, I'm not interested in doing all the work that should have been done in the prep stages. The entire experience of eating a meal counts. And nothing wrong with putting it up to a lack of culinary evolution, either. If we can put just about everything else they do up to the fact that this is a recently developed & isolated nation, why wouldn't the food be similarly affected?


I will try some other things suggested in this thread, but I am rarely impressed by Korean food so even some of the suggestions y'all gave me are ones I've had and did not care for. I don't really care how many countries you have been to, though, it's still your own personal opinion. If Korean people can travel with suitcases full of kimchi and ramen so they don't have to eat the local foods of the countries they visit, I'm allowed to be unimpressed.


I've made japchae before and it took forever just because you have to cut up and cook everything separately, but honestly you're doing almost the same thing to all of the ingredients. Kind of hard to mess up.

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« Reply #2622 on: November 22, 2016, 01:07:55 PM »
I'm British and even I think the food here is shit, that must be saying something.

Just how dare you Jack.  The cheek of the Roxby.  Us Brits are all over the good food.  Cornish pasties and fish and chips, and pies.  Oh, the pies.  Did you eat all the pies Jack?  Is that it?


I've become sooooo defensive about British food since living here. I will sing the praises of every single British dish to any Korean that dare tell me our food is bad. Even if, and sometimes especially if, I think that food is bad myself.

 :laugh: :laugh: This reminds me...

I met a Korean guy who lived abroad in England for most of his uni experience. He came back hating the food, but then went on to say that England had achieved nothing in any area of history or culture.

According to him, the UK had done nothing of note in the world of music, art, education, literature, pop culture... nothing. He told me the UK has excelled at nothing.

I wanted to ask him if that's the case, why are your parents spending their life savings to send you there for education?

Oh and another bit of cultural wisdom from him, Busan deserves the title of "City of Light" more than any other country in the world.

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« Reply #2623 on: November 22, 2016, 01:26:20 PM »
Yeah, to add to the never-ending debate on personal preference, Korean food is just not my jam.

Either it's fried without any seasoning whatsoever, thus defeating the purpose of fried food or it's stuff that's universally good anywhere but still not exceptional here (marinated meat, stir-fried noodles) or it's just whole fish or some sort of inedible pork or beef or who knows what plopped in some gochujang slurry. Oh and gotta love those roadside weeds that are cooked beyond recognition. No thanks.

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« Reply #2624 on: November 22, 2016, 01:29:07 PM »
I'm British and even I think the food here is shit, that must be saying something.

Just how dare you Jack.  The cheek of the Roxby.  Us Brits are all over the good food.  Cornish pasties and fish and chips, and pies.  Oh, the pies.  Did you eat all the pies Jack?  Is that it?


I've become sooooo defensive about British food since living here. I will sing the praises of every single British dish to any Korean that dare tell me our food is bad. Even if, and sometimes especially if, I think that food is bad myself.

 :laugh: :laugh: This reminds me...

I met a Korean guy who lived abroad in England for most of his uni experience. He came back hating the food, but then went on to say that England had achieved nothing in any area of history or culture.

According to him, the UK had done nothing of note in the world of music, art, education, literature, pop culture... nothing. He told me the UK has excelled at nothing.

I wanted to ask him if that's the case, why are your parents spending their life savings to send you there for education?

Oh and another bit of cultural wisdom from him, Busan deserves the title of "City of Light" more than any other country in the world.

This reads like a guy who is extremely backed up.

Poor, stupid, stupid, celibate guy.
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« Reply #2625 on: November 22, 2016, 01:42:44 PM »
I would be interested in watching a blind taste test to see how well people could name the dishes they had just tasted.

Of course, they would have to keep their mouths closed while chewing and wait to swallow before answering ;)


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« Reply #2626 on: November 22, 2016, 02:09:26 PM »
Yeah, to add to the never-ending debate on personal preference, Korean food is just not my jam.

Either it's fried without any seasoning whatsoever, thus defeating the purpose of fried food or it's stuff that's universally good anywhere but still not exceptional here (marinated meat, stir-fried noodles) or it's just whole fish or some sort of inedible pork or beef or who knows what plopped in some gochujang slurry. Oh and gotta love those roadside weeds that are cooked beyond recognition. No thanks.

I'm totally with you on that. A lot of the food here is really mediocre, at best. Bulgogi is the biggest offender. It's just a sugar and soy sauce marinade on really low quality, thinly sliced meat. Most of the time, bulgogi is junk. Like, below most Korean BBQ in terms of quality. And the fact that there are infinite variations of actual culinary dishes that are just variations of the 'gochujang slurry' that all basically taste the same is pretty disappointing. The biggest killer is lack of variety.

Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:

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« Reply #2627 on: November 22, 2016, 02:33:13 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

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« Reply #2628 on: November 22, 2016, 02:39:00 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

I had shabu-shabu once and I looooove it

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« Reply #2629 on: November 22, 2016, 02:49:05 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:
Like what?  Intestinal cramping, diarrhea, explosive bowels, bloody stool? ;)

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« Reply #2630 on: November 22, 2016, 02:52:08 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

Ahh okay I forgot about shabu-shabu, thanks. And it's not really about picky eating, it's just most of what I've come across is spicy soup with mussel shells and no discernible flavor or noodles with sweet sauce or chicken parts in sweet sauce or or or. I'm just not very jazzed to eat most Korean foods.  Which is why the only thing I could get excited about on your list is Japanese...

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« Reply #2631 on: November 22, 2016, 02:56:01 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:

My dad has come to Korea for a week for the last three years.  You'd be surprised how showing someone else around makes you realise there are interesting things to do, that maybe you take for granted.  Admittedly, I live rurally about two hours from Seoul so there is more countryside and coast to see. 

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« Reply #2632 on: November 22, 2016, 02:56:37 PM »
I must be one of the few who likes that the meat is still on the bone (in stews or whatever).

Except for fish bones. Those are annoying. If it's grilled or fried (not in a soup) then I don't mind as much but fish bones in general are irksome.

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« Reply #2633 on: November 22, 2016, 03:00:53 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

Ahh okay I forgot about shabu-shabu, thanks. And it's not really about picky eating, it's just most of what I've come across is spicy soup with mussel shells and no discernible flavor or noodles with sweet sauce or chicken parts in sweet sauce or or or. I'm just not very jazzed to eat most Korean foods.  Which is why the only thing I could get excited about on your list is Japanese...

To be fair you admitted you dont eat out a lot because you aren't interested but because you aren't interested you might be missing out on some great dishes if that makes sense.
 :azn:

One thing you could do is ask your Korean friends, or Korean co workers for recommendations. Food and restaurants. Explain your preferences and I am sure they can come up with something or Just check naver blogs.

I've found some great things that way.

and not having a go at you, just mean this in general....I feel like so many GET/NETs here judge Korean food by the food they eat at school  :blank: Which is always going to be a bit crappy.


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« Reply #2634 on: November 22, 2016, 03:09:08 PM »
...they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:
Like what?  Intestinal cramping, diarrhea, explosive bowels, bloody stool? ;)
:laugh:    I've been here for a while, I eat at new places whenever I can, and have never experienced any of that, thankfully!!
   (And if you're getting explosive bowels and bloody stools after eating jeon, then you're doing something seriously wrong! :huh:)

Anyway, it might be that I was brought up on some seriously... lackluster continental fare, but while food here can certainly be hit or miss -- I definitely won't argue that it's grande cuisine -- but I do enjoy a lot of it.
    People can choose how they approach things, and often that mindset will determine what they get out of the experience. Food is definitely one of those things!  :smiley:
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« Reply #2635 on: November 22, 2016, 03:10:11 PM »
I hate when I can clearly see how infrequently they clean the bathrooms at my school.

There has been a spray of piss all down the back of the only "western style" toilet in the bathroom near me for over a week. I have seen the "cleaning" lady go in there many times to change the trashes, but her bucket full of empty water bottles and dry rags is just for looks. She has not lifted a finger to clean the toilets or sinks. She leaves the pee covered toilet completely alone. Not sure she even checks the state of the toilets. HOW is this acceptable?

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« Reply #2636 on: November 22, 2016, 03:12:31 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

I had shabu-shabu once and I looooove it

Gamjatang is one of my favorite foods ever. Shabu shabu, dalkgalbi, chapchae, pajeon etc. are also awesome.

Near my school is this awesome lil mom and pop place that does smoked pork bulgogi-ish (sans horrendous amount of sweet sauce). I can't recall the exact name of the dish but it's literally one of the best things I've eaten in Seoul.

It took a lot of experimenting but there are a ton of little restaurants that are amazing but it took me awhile to go through all the restaurants nearby and sort wheat from chaff.

Oh and bossam. Bossam is amazing.

I will agree with whoever said samgyetang is nasty. That is one that I can't stand. (Though I'm not a big fan of the 'clear' soups in general.)

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« Reply #2637 on: November 22, 2016, 03:13:10 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

Ahh okay I forgot about shabu-shabu, thanks. And it's not really about picky eating, it's just most of what I've come across is spicy soup with mussel shells and no discernible flavor or noodles with sweet sauce or chicken parts in sweet sauce or or or. I'm just not very jazzed to eat most Korean foods.  Which is why the only thing I could get excited about on your list is Japanese...

To be fair you admitted you dont eat out a lot because you aren't interested but because you aren't interested you might be missing out on some great dishes if that makes sense.
 :azn:

One thing you could do is ask your Korean friends, or Korean co workers for recommendations. Food and restaurants. Explain your preferences and I am sure they can come up with something or Just check naver blogs.

I've found some great things that way.

and not having a go at you, just mean this in general....I feel like so many GET/NETs here judge Korean food by the food they eat at school  :blank: Which is always going to be a bit crappy.

A very good point. Basic school lunches when I was a student were generally always quite subpar. But I still kinda miss those hexagonal fiesta pizzas even though I know they're probably only vaguely more nutritious than cardboard.

As for Korean school lunches... I think I've been lucky that mine have generally been decent if not good (it's never been slop), but gamjatang in a school cafeteria is a far cry from gamjatang at a proper restaurant.

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« Reply #2638 on: November 22, 2016, 03:28:56 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

yeh fussy people are the worst. big, overgrown children. The only people worse than them are fat, fussy people, who whine about the local food and so go to macdonalds. Awful slime

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« Reply #2639 on: November 22, 2016, 06:26:58 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

I had shabu-shabu once and I looooove it

Gamjatang is one of my favorite foods ever. Shabu shabu, dalkgalbi, chapchae, pajeon etc. are also awesome.

Near my school is this awesome lil mom and pop place that does smoked pork bulgogi-ish (sans horrendous amount of sweet sauce). I can't recall the exact name of the dish but it's literally one of the best things I've eaten in Seoul.

It took a lot of experimenting but there are a ton of little restaurants that are amazing but it took me awhile to go through all the restaurants nearby and sort wheat from chaff.

Oh and bossam. Bossam is amazing.

I will agree with whoever said samgyetang is nasty. That is one that I can't stand. (Though I'm not a big fan of the 'clear' soups in general.)

Came here to say, Gamjatang <3  :-* :-* :-*
One of the few things I genuinely miss since I left Korea