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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4720 on: December 21, 2017, 07:29:52 AM »
I received a very well written email from one of my former middle school students.  Wishing me Merry Christmas and saying she misses me and thanking me for helping her get into a study abroad program in the states next year (I'm sure it honestly had little to do with me; she's a very bright student and I'm certain she studies a lot.  All I did was practice interviewing her a couple times outside of class).  She also included some photos of her class on field trips.  This was one of my favorite classes. 

[DELUGE OF FEELINGS]  :cry:

It's nice, isn't it?  I had similar with two of my students who had English interviews for their university entrance this year.  We practised a lot.  Both got 합격 (Pass) for their chosen courses after their interview.  In fact, I went out into the corridor when one student was checking her result for the first time.  When she saw her result she stood up, hugged me and then started crying for two minutes.  Awwww!

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4721 on: December 21, 2017, 12:15:57 PM »
Let me see a show of hands for those who feel as though they have done absolutely NOTHING all year. Come on, up with your hands.  Here I sit, surfing the Internet and drinking Maxim coffee (shudder) on full-pay, yet again. It's been like this for weeks.

How many actual classes have I taught this year? F ALL! This job has been one big day off from the start. National holidays, school holidays, school festivals, contractual vacation days, test days, self-study test days, days off so students can practice dancing, days off for mock SAT tests, swimming days, sports day.....man, I'm getting paid to do nothing!!!

I don't mind the odd day off from teaching, but this job is the odd day of teaching in an ocean of days off.

How is one meant to pimp up this job on a resume? Cross-cultural skills? Help me here.

How is one meant to ever "work" again? I mean, getting asked to do ANYTHING in the future by an employer will be a huge stress.

 


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4722 on: December 21, 2017, 01:12:48 PM »
How is one meant to ever "work" again? I mean, getting asked to do ANYTHING in the future by an employer will be a huge stress.

YES. My Co-Teacher asked me to make a sign for a disabled student so he can wave it around in the Xmas plays tomorrow.

Immediate thought?  :rolleyes:  :huh: Oh, man..................

7 seconds later: Kevin, you don't do shit. Just shut up and make it.
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4723 on: December 21, 2017, 01:23:04 PM »
Let me see a show of hands for those who feel as though they have done absolutely NOTHING all year. Come on, up with your hands.  Here I sit, surfing the Internet and drinking Maxim coffee (shudder) on full-pay, yet again. It's been like this for weeks.

How many actual classes have I taught this year? F ALL! This job has been one big day off from the start. National holidays, school holidays, school festivals, contractual vacation days, test days, self-study test days, days off so students can practice dancing, days off for mock SAT tests, swimming days, sports day.....man, I'm getting paid to do nothing!!!

I don't mind the odd day off from teaching, but this job is the odd day of teaching in an ocean of days off.

How is one meant to pimp up this job on a resume? Cross-cultural skills? Help me here.

How is one meant to ever "work" again? I mean, getting asked to do ANYTHING in the future by an employer will be a huge stress.

Trust me, I don't think you want to learn what the other side of that equation looks like. Learn a new skill, start a blog, use your free time well.
Of the 8 hours I work, I'm effectively teaching, planning, or helping out in some way for all 8 of them. Just this week I finally get a bit of a break due to Christmas stuff, but... damn.
I wish I did nothing here at school because there isn't enough hours after for me to accomplish everything I want to in a day.

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4724 on: December 21, 2017, 01:29:32 PM »
Let me see a show of hands for those who feel as though they have done absolutely NOTHING all year. Come on, up with your hands.  Here I sit, surfing the Internet and drinking Maxim coffee (shudder) on full-pay, yet again. It's been like this for weeks.

How many actual classes have I taught this year? F ALL! This job has been one big day off from the start. National holidays, school holidays, school festivals, contractual vacation days, test days, self-study test days, days off so students can practice dancing, days off for mock SAT tests, swimming days, sports day.....man, I'm getting paid to do nothing!!!

I don't mind the odd day off from teaching, but this job is the odd day of teaching in an ocean of days off.

How is one meant to pimp up this job on a resume? Cross-cultural skills? Help me here.

How is one meant to ever "work" again? I mean, getting asked to do ANYTHING in the future by an employer will be a huge stress.

Amen brother. I've got haemorrhoids from sitting here doing nothing for the last 2 months.
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4725 on: December 26, 2017, 09:22:34 AM »
It's really good that elderly people in Korea get out and exercise so much.

But...my heart is always in my throat when I see them walking backwards.  I wish they wouldn't do that  :sad:

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4726 on: December 26, 2017, 09:32:57 AM »
It's really good that elderly people in Korea get out and exercise so much.

But...my heart is always in my throat when I see them walking backwards.  I wish they wouldn't do that  :sad:

I kind of understand it when going up hills, but just going down the normal side walk....  :undecided: :huh: :cry:

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4727 on: December 26, 2017, 09:53:46 AM »
I learned how to say "playboy" in Chinese.

I'm sure this will come in handy?  :laugh:

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4728 on: December 26, 2017, 02:58:54 PM »
How is one meant to ever "work" again? I mean, getting asked to do ANYTHING in the future by an employer will be a huge stress.

YES. My Co-Teacher asked me to make a sign for a disabled student so he can wave it around in the Xmas plays tomorrow.

Immediate thought?  :rolleyes:  :huh: Oh, man..................

7 seconds later: Kevin, you don't do shit. Just shut up and make it.

I was like that too. My school decided that they wanted an extra curricular English class, 2 periods a week, for any student who wanted that too.
At first I thought, man, I can't be bothered with that, but then immediately thought, great, something more to do.

Then they said, it will be after 5pm twice a week. They haven't asked if I want to do that, but have said I will be doing this. I've been trying to negotiate to get it within the school day, as my teaching hours every week is in the single digits, but my school offers a lot of extra stuff, and keep saying that it's impossible to put before 5pm, and are willing to pay OT for it.
I don't need extra money, so I don't really want to do it, unless it is between the 9 - 5 :o

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4729 on: December 26, 2017, 03:03:48 PM »
How is one meant to ever "work" again? I mean, getting asked to do ANYTHING in the future by an employer will be a huge stress.

YES. My Co-Teacher asked me to make a sign for a disabled student so he can wave it around in the Xmas plays tomorrow.

Immediate thought?  :rolleyes:  :huh: Oh, man..................

7 seconds later: Kevin, you don't do shit. Just shut up and make it.

I was like that too. My school decided that they wanted an extra curricular English class, 2 periods a week, for any student who wanted that too.
At first I thought, man, I can't be bothered with that, but then immediately thought, great, something more to do.

Then they said, it will be after 5pm twice a week. They haven't asked if I want to do that, but have said I will be doing this. I've been trying to negotiate to get it within the school day, as my teaching hours every week is in the single digits, but my school offers a lot of extra stuff, and keep saying that it's impossible to put before 5pm, and are willing to pay OT for it.
I don't need extra money, so I don't really want to do it, unless it is between the 9 - 5 :o

Ah man I really hate stuff like this and actually think it's a bit sneaky of schools to do it.  Your regular teaching hours are under 22 I assume so your actual overtime pay for this will be something like 6,000 per hour.  I can't think of anyone who would want to stay after 5pm for that little amount.  Definitely not worth it.

But...apparently we can't refuse it. 

Awful situation that; I really feel for you  :sad:

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4730 on: December 26, 2017, 03:09:50 PM »
How is one meant to ever "work" again? I mean, getting asked to do ANYTHING in the future by an employer will be a huge stress.

YES. My Co-Teacher asked me to make a sign for a disabled student so he can wave it around in the Xmas plays tomorrow.

Immediate thought?  :rolleyes:  :huh: Oh, man..................

7 seconds later: Kevin, you don't do shit. Just shut up and make it.

I was like that too. My school decided that they wanted an extra curricular English class, 2 periods a week, for any student who wanted that too.
At first I thought, man, I can't be bothered with that, but then immediately thought, great, something more to do.

Then they said, it will be after 5pm twice a week. They haven't asked if I want to do that, but have said I will be doing this. I've been trying to negotiate to get it within the school day, as my teaching hours every week is in the single digits, but my school offers a lot of extra stuff, and keep saying that it's impossible to put before 5pm, and are willing to pay OT for it.
I don't need extra money, so I don't really want to do it, unless it is between the 9 - 5 :o

Ah man I really hate stuff like this and actually think it's a bit sneaky of schools to do it.  Your regular teaching hours are under 22 I assume so your actual overtime pay for this will be something like 6,000 per hour.  I can't think of anyone who would want to stay after 5pm for that little amount.  Definitely not worth it.

But...apparently we can't refuse it. 

Awful situation that; I really feel for you  :sad:

I'm in PS and in the contract, OT is at a fixed rate regardless of my weekly teaching hours. I could have 1 TH per week, and my OT rate is still 15,000 or 20,000 won (forget which) per lesson.
I'm pretty sure anything after 5pm has to be agreed upon by both parties though. However, it's been sprung on me at the end of the day (all the teachers have gone home early. It's just me and the admin lady left here), and I don't see my school until winter camp. >.< And even then, I don't think the person to talk to about this will be here then.
Apparently, everything about it has been decided, all the paperwork has been done (haven't signed anything about it), and it will start the first full week of school in March. >.<

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4731 on: December 26, 2017, 03:13:46 PM »
How is one meant to ever "work" again? I mean, getting asked to do ANYTHING in the future by an employer will be a huge stress.

YES. My Co-Teacher asked me to make a sign for a disabled student so he can wave it around in the Xmas plays tomorrow.

Immediate thought?  :rolleyes:  :huh: Oh, man..................

7 seconds later: Kevin, you don't do shit. Just shut up and make it.

I was like that too. My school decided that they wanted an extra curricular English class, 2 periods a week, for any student who wanted that too.
At first I thought, man, I can't be bothered with that, but then immediately thought, great, something more to do.

Then they said, it will be after 5pm twice a week. They haven't asked if I want to do that, but have said I will be doing this. I've been trying to negotiate to get it within the school day, as my teaching hours every week is in the single digits, but my school offers a lot of extra stuff, and keep saying that it's impossible to put before 5pm, and are willing to pay OT for it.
I don't need extra money, so I don't really want to do it, unless it is between the 9 - 5 :o

Ah man I really hate stuff like this and actually think it's a bit sneaky of schools to do it.  Your regular teaching hours are under 22 I assume so your actual overtime pay for this will be something like 6,000 per hour.  I can't think of anyone who would want to stay after 5pm for that little amount.  Definitely not worth it.

But...apparently we can't refuse it. 

Awful situation that; I really feel for you  :sad:

I'm in PS and in the contract, OT is at a fixed rate regardless of my weekly teaching hours. I could have 1 TH per week, and my OT rate is still 15,000 or 20,000 won (forget which) per lesson.
I'm pretty sure anything after 5pm has to be agreed upon by both parties though. However, it's been sprung on me at the end of the day (all the teachers have gone home early. It's just me and the admin lady left here), and I don't see my school until winter camp. >.< And even then, I don't think the person to talk to about this will be here then.
Apparently, everything about it has been decided, all the paperwork has been done (haven't signed anything about it), and it will start the first full week of school in March. >.<

Yeah I would have thought so too considering it's outside of your contracted hours. Damn.

Hopefully it might be that they forget all about it by the time March rolls around or no students show up so you can just leave.  Fingers crossed!

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4732 on: December 26, 2017, 03:16:39 PM »
How is one meant to ever "work" again? I mean, getting asked to do ANYTHING in the future by an employer will be a huge stress.

YES. My Co-Teacher asked me to make a sign for a disabled student so he can wave it around in the Xmas plays tomorrow.

Immediate thought?  :rolleyes:  :huh: Oh, man..................

7 seconds later: Kevin, you don't do shit. Just shut up and make it.

I was like that too. My school decided that they wanted an extra curricular English class, 2 periods a week, for any student who wanted that too.
At first I thought, man, I can't be bothered with that, but then immediately thought, great, something more to do.

Then they said, it will be after 5pm twice a week. They haven't asked if I want to do that, but have said I will be doing this. I've been trying to negotiate to get it within the school day, as my teaching hours every week is in the single digits, but my school offers a lot of extra stuff, and keep saying that it's impossible to put before 5pm, and are willing to pay OT for it.
I don't need extra money, so I don't really want to do it, unless it is between the 9 - 5 :o

Ah man I really hate stuff like this and actually think it's a bit sneaky of schools to do it.  Your regular teaching hours are under 22 I assume so your actual overtime pay for this will be something like 6,000 per hour.  I can't think of anyone who would want to stay after 5pm for that little amount.  Definitely not worth it.

But...apparently we can't refuse it. 

Awful situation that; I really feel for you  :sad:

That's because they're not allowed to do it.  If you teach outside the contracted hours you get paid 20 000 won or over that, if it is different.  This year I had night classes at three different schools, one middle school was two classes from 7-8:30 pm and I got 30 000 won for each class.  I taught at one high school from 6:30 to 8pm and was paid 40 000 won for each hour.  At my high school, I taught from 6:50 to 8pm and got 55 000 won for that.  They were all because I was outside the contracted hours, even though I was teaching under 22 hours (18 hours to be exact). 

 Also, 6000 won is for non-teaching overtime, if they pay you that for teaching, it is wrong.  I judged at my school debate contest from 6pm to 9pm and got paid the 6000 won for each hour.  I was fine with that as that's what it's there for. 

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« Reply #4733 on: December 26, 2017, 03:16:59 PM »
I've found out I'll only have three 1st grade middle school students for my camp.  It's hard to be motivated for that.

I'll do my best to make it fun for them, but I'm not optimistic.

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« Reply #4734 on: December 26, 2017, 03:21:09 PM »
How is one meant to ever "work" again? I mean, getting asked to do ANYTHING in the future by an employer will be a huge stress.

YES. My Co-Teacher asked me to make a sign for a disabled student so he can wave it around in the Xmas plays tomorrow.

Immediate thought?  :rolleyes:  :huh: Oh, man..................

7 seconds later: Kevin, you don't do shit. Just shut up and make it.

I was like that too. My school decided that they wanted an extra curricular English class, 2 periods a week, for any student who wanted that too.
At first I thought, man, I can't be bothered with that, but then immediately thought, great, something more to do.

Then they said, it will be after 5pm twice a week. They haven't asked if I want to do that, but have said I will be doing this. I've been trying to negotiate to get it within the school day, as my teaching hours every week is in the single digits, but my school offers a lot of extra stuff, and keep saying that it's impossible to put before 5pm, and are willing to pay OT for it.
I don't need extra money, so I don't really want to do it, unless it is between the 9 - 5 :o

Ah man I really hate stuff like this and actually think it's a bit sneaky of schools to do it.  Your regular teaching hours are under 22 I assume so your actual overtime pay for this will be something like 6,000 per hour.  I can't think of anyone who would want to stay after 5pm for that little amount.  Definitely not worth it.

But...apparently we can't refuse it. 

Awful situation that; I really feel for you  :sad:

I'm in PS and in the contract, OT is at a fixed rate regardless of my weekly teaching hours. I could have 1 TH per week, and my OT rate is still 15,000 or 20,000 won (forget which) per lesson.
I'm pretty sure anything after 5pm has to be agreed upon by both parties though. However, it's been sprung on me at the end of the day (all the teachers have gone home early. It's just me and the admin lady left here), and I don't see my school until winter camp. >.< And even then, I don't think the person to talk to about this will be here then.
Apparently, everything about it has been decided, all the paperwork has been done (haven't signed anything about it), and it will start the first full week of school in March. >.<

Yeah I would have thought so too considering it's outside of your contracted hours. Damn.

Hopefully it might be that they forget all about it by the time March rolls around or no students show up so you can just leave.  Fingers crossed!

Thanks! I'll probably talk to the co-ordinator at the education office about it. I'm willing to do it during the work day, but not after 5pm.

At the same time, I don't want to rock the boat and hope no students sign up / join. (there is very little interest in English by the students at this school); although, I'm a little worried, thinking that might force some students to join in some way. >.< They want the students to act out plays in front of the school / parents / other schools at a multi-school festival (small rural area, so the schools in the area join together for festivals).

I also know nothing about acting, directing plays, putting on a play, and plays themselves. :P

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« Reply #4735 on: December 26, 2017, 03:22:14 PM »
How is one meant to ever "work" again? I mean, getting asked to do ANYTHING in the future by an employer will be a huge stress.

YES. My Co-Teacher asked me to make a sign for a disabled student so he can wave it around in the Xmas plays tomorrow.

Immediate thought?  :rolleyes:  :huh: Oh, man..................

7 seconds later: Kevin, you don't do shit. Just shut up and make it.

I was like that too. My school decided that they wanted an extra curricular English class, 2 periods a week, for any student who wanted that too.
At first I thought, man, I can't be bothered with that, but then immediately thought, great, something more to do.

Then they said, it will be after 5pm twice a week. They haven't asked if I want to do that, but have said I will be doing this. I've been trying to negotiate to get it within the school day, as my teaching hours every week is in the single digits, but my school offers a lot of extra stuff, and keep saying that it's impossible to put before 5pm, and are willing to pay OT for it.
I don't need extra money, so I don't really want to do it, unless it is between the 9 - 5 :o

Ah man I really hate stuff like this and actually think it's a bit sneaky of schools to do it.  Your regular teaching hours are under 22 I assume so your actual overtime pay for this will be something like 6,000 per hour.  I can't think of anyone who would want to stay after 5pm for that little amount.  Definitely not worth it.

But...apparently we can't refuse it. 

Awful situation that; I really feel for you  :sad:

That's because they're not allowed to do it.  If you teach outside the contracted hours you get paid 20 000 won or over that, if it is different.  This year I had night classes at three different schools, one middle school was two classes from 7-8:30 pm and I got 30 000 won for each class.  I taught at one high school from 6:30 to 8pm and was paid 40 000 won for each hour.  At my high school, I taught from 6:50 to 8pm and got 55 000 won for that.  They were all because I was outside the contracted hours, even though I was teaching under 22 hours (18 hours to be exact). 

 Also, 6000 won is for non-teaching overtime, if they pay you that for teaching, it is wrong.  I judged at my school debate contest from 6pm to 9pm and got paid the 6000 won for each hour.  I was fine with that as that's what it's there for.

I don't have my contract on me, but outside of contracted hours has to be agreed to by everyone, right Dave?

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« Reply #4736 on: December 26, 2017, 03:25:04 PM »
That's because they're not allowed to do it.  If you teach outside the contracted hours you get paid 20 000 won or over that, if it is different.  This year I had night classes at three different schools, one middle school was two classes from 7-8:30 pm and I got 30 000 won for each class.  I taught at one high school from 6:30 to 8pm and was paid 40 000 won for each hour.  At my high school, I taught from 6:50 to 8pm and got 55 000 won for that.  They were all because I was outside the contracted hours, even though I was teaching under 22 hours (18 hours to be exact). 

 Also, 6000 won is for non-teaching overtime, if they pay you that for teaching, it is wrong.  I judged at my school debate contest from 6pm to 9pm and got paid the 6000 won for each hour.  I was fine with that as that's what it's there for.

Your contract isn't the standard EPIK one right?

The EPIK contract is unfortunately really clear about overtime pay...20,000 only if you go above contracted teaching hours (22).  It specifically says that we are obliged to work outside normal working hours if required  :sad:

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« Reply #4737 on: December 26, 2017, 03:31:27 PM »
That's because they're not allowed to do it.  If you teach outside the contracted hours you get paid 20 000 won or over that, if it is different.  This year I had night classes at three different schools, one middle school was two classes from 7-8:30 pm and I got 30 000 won for each class.  I taught at one high school from 6:30 to 8pm and was paid 40 000 won for each hour.  At my high school, I taught from 6:50 to 8pm and got 55 000 won for that.  They were all because I was outside the contracted hours, even though I was teaching under 22 hours (18 hours to be exact). 

 Also, 6000 won is for non-teaching overtime, if they pay you that for teaching, it is wrong.  I judged at my school debate contest from 6pm to 9pm and got paid the 6000 won for each hour.  I was fine with that as that's what it's there for.

Your contract isn't the standard EPIK one right?

The EPIK contract is unfortunately really clear about overtime pay...20,000 only if you go above contracted teaching hours (22).  It specifically says that we are obliged to work outside normal working hours if required  :sad:

Mine's not EPIK, but I think it is pretty much close to a standard EPIK one. However, as of next year, EPIK is taking over the hiring of the area, so the contract might change.

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« Reply #4738 on: December 26, 2017, 05:42:24 PM »
My travel school has heated toilet seats!

One of my travel schools had not only heated toilet seats, but soap AND classical music.   :laugh:


Yeah, my workplace also has heated toilet seats -- it actually gets too hot sometimes. My toilet in my apartment also came with a heated toilet seat when I moved to that apartment, although I never use that heating function.

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« Reply #4739 on: December 27, 2017, 09:46:24 AM »

Yeah, my workplace also has heated toilet seats -- it actually gets too hot sometimes. My toilet in my apartment also came with a heated toilet seat when I moved to that apartment, although I never use that heating function.

Oh man. You're lucky. I would never leave the bathroom in the morning if I had one of those.

My school is frigid right now.