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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #380 on: September 03, 2014, 05:43:18 PM »


No one has aired this man's video but the interviewer seems to have seen it because he asks about the man speaking on the video saying that Brown was punchng on the officer. Brady backtracks about saying that - but the FBI has this video - and the media outlets have it as well. I wonder why it isn't being aired.

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #381 on: September 03, 2014, 05:45:44 PM »
It's not police protocol to not mow the lawn after being punched in the face. Or are you saying that he should have been treated at the scene? For a swollen face?  That's just stupid. What is an EMT supposed to do about a swollen face? Who said he was dazed and confused? Who said he wasn't seen by an EMT before leaving for the hospital with the chief? One of the witnesses does describe a tussle at the window of the SUV and in his video he states that Brown was punching on him - regardless of what the autopsy showed or didn't show.

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Darren Wilson supposedly suffered an injury at the scene and should have been treated for that injury at the scene either by the first responder or an ambulance crew...so we can avoid situations like this one

http://www.in.gov/ctb/files/section301.pdf

Every coroner or law enforcement officer responding to a crime scene, or possible crime scene, is to render aid to the victim(s). This aid may vary from calming an emotionally distraught victim to calling for an ambulance and/or the services of an Emergency Medical Team (EMT).

Now for the really interesting part....HOW did Darren Wilson obtain this swollen face. Are you suggesting if someone were to get blunt force trauma to the head, they wouldn't be dazed? Is that what you're saying?

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #382 on: September 03, 2014, 05:58:07 PM »
This aid may vary... That doesn't sound very definite. There was an EMT at the scene, he can be seen looking at Brown. Can anyone say for a certainty that this EMT didn't briefly see the swollen face and told the chief to take the officer to the hospital?
He got a swollen face because Brown punched him.

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #383 on: September 03, 2014, 06:02:52 PM »
This aid may vary... That doesn't sound very definite. There was an EMT at the scene, he can be seen looking at Brown. Can anyone say for a certainty that this EMT didn't briefly see the swollen face and told the chief to take the officer to the hospital?
He got a swollen face because Brown punched him.

No, there is no evidence whatsoever of Wilson receiving medical care/assistance at the scene.

If Michael Brown punched Wilson, especially hard enough to cause swelling on Wilson's face, there should be some bruising on Brown's fist(s), which there is no evidence of.

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #384 on: September 03, 2014, 06:06:58 PM »
Except the pesky video in which Brady says that Brown was punching on him.

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #385 on: September 03, 2014, 06:10:28 PM »
This aid may vary... That doesn't sound very definite. There was an EMT at the scene, he can be seen looking at Brown. Can anyone say for a certainty that this EMT didn't briefly see the swollen face and told the chief to take the officer to the hospital?
He got a swollen face because Brown punched him.

No, there is no evidence whatsoever of Wilson receiving medical care/assistance at the scene.

If Michael Brown punched Wilson, especially hard enough to cause swelling on Wilson's face, there should be some bruising on Brown's fist(s), which there is no evidence of.

Michael,
We haven't been given all of the evidence, you mean.

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #386 on: September 03, 2014, 06:11:09 PM »
Except the pesky video in which Brady says that Brown was punching on him.

Brady was looking at the incident from his house window from a difficult angle from a long distance. Not only that, he also had to move position and missed some of the action....and his story STILL correlates with the other witnesses.

Why not quote the other witnesses that were closer to the scene? Tiffany Mitchell saw everything from her car in the street....why not quote her?

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #387 on: September 03, 2014, 06:13:20 PM »
Except the pesky video in which Brady says that Brown was punching on him.

Yeah, it's funny how stories have changed, isn't it.

The reason this video is not on the other networks is because this guy is so unclear that it's a total mess.  He says something totally different on the video than his interview, then backtracks as he explains, then says another thing when he realizes that what he said damns Brown, then he makes up something else that makes no sense.

Confusing as heck.

And that confusion, compared to what he actually says in the video, just looks baaad.
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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #388 on: September 03, 2014, 06:14:26 PM »
This aid may vary... That doesn't sound very definite. There was an EMT at the scene, he can be seen looking at Brown. Can anyone say for a certainty that this EMT didn't briefly see the swollen face and told the chief to take the officer to the hospital?
He got a swollen face because Brown punched him.

No, there is no evidence whatsoever of Wilson receiving medical care/assistance at the scene.

If Michael Brown punched Wilson, especially hard enough to cause swelling on Wilson's face, there should be some bruising on Brown's fist(s), which there is no evidence of.

Michael,
We haven't been given all of the evidence, you mean.

http://online.wsj.com/articles/independent-autopsy-shows-no-sign-of-struggle-in-michael-browns-shooting-1408381747

A former New York City medical examiner found "no evidence of a struggle" between Michael Brown and the police officer who shot him at least six times on Aug. 9—an encounter that has sparked more than a week of unrest in this St. Louis suburb.

I didn't know dead people could heal...at record recovery time!

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #389 on: September 03, 2014, 06:16:32 PM »
That paid, independent autopsy did not even reveal where the entry and exit of the bullets were.  Do you know how obvious that is?  The reason it was not revealed is because it doesn't help his boss (the paying client)'s case.

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #390 on: September 03, 2014, 06:24:42 PM »
Brady was looking at the incident from his house window from a difficult angle from a long distance. Not only that, he also had to move position and missed some of the action....and his story STILL correlates with the other witnesses.

Why not quote the other witnesses that were closer to the scene? Tiffany Mitchell saw everything from her car in the street....why not quote her?


Because she didn't see the tussle at the window. She arrived as the shooting began. Brady is the only one who saw the tussle at the window.


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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #391 on: September 03, 2014, 06:26:09 PM »
That paid, independent autopsy did not even reveal where the entry and exit of the bullets were.  Do you know how obvious that is?  The reason it was not revealed is because it doesn't help his boss (the paying client)'s case.

Because Michael Baden Would just throw all that away! - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Baden

http://www.newsweek.com/what-we-learned-michael-browns-autopsy-265247 - Dr. Baden said he had waived his usual $10,000 fee for the autopsy

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #392 on: September 03, 2014, 06:28:47 PM »
Brady was looking at the incident from his house window from a difficult angle from a long distance. Not only that, he also had to move position and missed some of the action....and his story STILL correlates with the other witnesses.

Why not quote the other witnesses that were closer to the scene? Tiffany Mitchell saw everything from her car in the street....why not quote her?


Because she didn't see the tussle at the window. She arrived as the shooting began. Brady is the only one who saw the tussle at the window.


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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #393 on: September 03, 2014, 06:43:31 PM »
Brady was looking at the incident from his house window from a difficult angle from a long distance. Not only that, he also had to move position and missed some of the action....and his story STILL correlates with the other witnesses.

Why not quote the other witnesses that were closer to the scene? Tiffany Mitchell saw everything from her car in the street....why not quote her?


Because she didn't see the tussle at the window. She arrived as the shooting began. Brady is the only one who saw the tussle at the window.



This just goes to show, that nobody in the USA will accept any unscrupulous treatment from any police officer. If you ask me I think the police officer who shot Mike Brown is a moral equivalent to North Korean guards.

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #394 on: September 03, 2014, 06:44:22 PM »
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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #395 on: September 03, 2014, 06:51:58 PM »
The big problem with Tiffany's version is that she states that she tried to get her phone to take video when she saw the tussle at the window. But her video doesn't begin rolling until 8 minutes after the shooting. She also states that she had her phone so she could call Crenshaw (she had called to say she arrived). So which is it? She was looking for her phone to take video or she had her phone in hand as she pulled up? And why wait 8 minutes to begin taking video when that was the reason she was looking for her phone?

Also, her viewing angle was the worst of the bunch. Her car was about 175 feet from the shooting in a direct line behind Wilson's SUV.

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #396 on: September 03, 2014, 07:01:19 PM »
The big problem with Tiffany's version is that she states that she tried to get her phone to take video when she saw the tussle at the window. But her video doesn't begin rolling until 8 minutes after the shooting. She also states that she had her phone so she could call Crenshaw (she had called to say she arrived). So which is it? She was looking for her phone to take video or she had her phone in hand as she pulled up? And why wait 8 minutes to begin taking video when that was the reason she was looking for her phone?

Also, her viewing angle was the worst of the bunch. Her car was about 175 feet from the shooting in a direct line behind Wilson's SUV.

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Did your stupidity level just take a quantum leap? Or are you just a terrible liar?

Why did she have her phone with her in the car? To call her friend who she was supposed to pick up. Did you expect Mitchell to have her phone in-hand while driving?

She tried to get her phone.....it did not take 8 minutes from the struggle to Brown's death...it was less than 2-3 minutes if that.

Mitchell said she was 10-20 feet away (1:47 in the video).

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #397 on: September 03, 2014, 07:07:42 PM »
You might want to take a look at the map of the area. Her car is parked pretty far away from the shooting. 

Ok, so you say she had her phone to call her friend. Why then does she have to look for her phone to take video. And why does the video begin about 8 minutes after the shooting if she was looking for her phone to take video?

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Re: Michael Brown- Another Trayvon?
« Reply #398 on: September 03, 2014, 07:09:13 PM »
She tried to get her phone.....it did not take 8 minutes from the struggle to Brown's death...it was less than 2-3 minutes if that.
 8 minutes after the shooting is when she began filming. That's the point.

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« Reply #399 on: September 03, 2014, 07:33:49 PM »
You might want to take a look at the map of the area. Her car is parked pretty far away from the shooting. 

Ok, so you say she had her phone to call her friend. Why then does she have to look for her phone to take video. And why does the video begin about 8 minutes after the shooting if she was looking for her phone to take video?

So basically you're quoting - http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/08/29/the-instigator-how-one-saint-louis-man-originated-the-hands-up-dont-shoot-mike-brown-controversy-and-created-the-eye-witness-testimonials/

"Remember, Brady was an actual witness to at least part of the event – Tiffany and Piaget were witnesses to the aspect *AFTER* the shots were fired."

Even though Mitchell clearly stated she was 10-20 feet behind Wilson's car....look at the map yourself. Her car IS closer to Wilson's car than Michael Brown's body is.

Your "8-10 minutes after the shooting" point also stems from this site....again, where is the proof they started videoing 8-10mins after...and not 2-3 mins after?

Where does your "175 feet from the shooting" come from? Your butt hole?
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