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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7000 on: September 11, 2017, 08:45:09 AM »
Dangerous weather?

Not sure, but I, and everyone else in the office, got the emergency message this morning about something. It's all in Korean, so I can't read it, and my co-workers wouldn't tell me.

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« Reply #7001 on: September 11, 2017, 08:57:25 AM »
Dangerous weather?

It's raining today.

It's a little more than just raining where I am.
The streets around my school are totally flooded, lights are out and cars can't get through. There are cops everywhere blocking off roads that can't be used and the ones that can be used are bumper to bumper unmoving traffic. My school is separated by a bridge and the water under it has reached the bottom and is even covering the bridge in some areas. If this rain keeps up getting home is seriously going to be a bitch.

I just walked around the school, Most teachers are not even here. Some students are just sitting in empty classrooms playing phone games. No lunch today, lovely.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7002 on: September 11, 2017, 09:33:43 AM »
Dangerous weather?

Not sure, but I, and everyone else in the office, got the emergency message this morning about something. It's all in Korean, so I can't read it, and my co-workers wouldn't tell me.

Both of them were warning of the rain that causes flooding. Im in Dongnae and it tends to flood pretty badly here (in Korean standards at least). Was up to my shins

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7003 on: September 11, 2017, 09:43:07 AM »
Mine have to get physical authorisation before they can enter anything (for their trips and my own). They get grilled by the head-teacher and/or VP about it.

Depending on the teacher they have to make lots of trips up and down stairs.
THIS!!!

It is seems so defeatist to have this online system when so many can't let go of the old way of doing things.

Anyone know of any other reason for it to be done in that way (seeking prior approval, before submitting)?


I assume it's just the cultural hierarchy thing.  My coT and I would go together to ask the principal permission for special things like my vacation dates.  He was super chill though; my coT said she was sure everything was fine but that it was just the polite thing to do. 

But for basic requests like just going to a travel school? I just have to request approval from the head teacher via NEIS.  We don't bother the principal over something so minor as that.  (If we did, we'd be bothering him thrice a week)

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7004 on: September 11, 2017, 12:02:33 PM »
 I'm so done with work and Korea in general, I want to just sleep until my contract is up.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7005 on: September 11, 2017, 12:03:56 PM »
I found out today that some students at my middle school have complained about teachers cutting in the lunch line and eating first. Today, the vice principal was in the cafeteria talking to students as we teachers cut in line.  There is also a sign that reminds students that teachers eat first.

SMH  :huh:

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7006 on: September 11, 2017, 12:08:16 PM »
Mine have to get physical authorisation before they can enter anything (for their trips and my own). They get grilled by the head-teacher and/or VP about it.

Depending on the teacher they have to make lots of trips up and down stairs.
THIS!!!

It is seems so defeatist to have this online system when so many can't let go of the old way of doing things.

Anyone know of any other reason for it to be done in that way (seeking prior approval, before submitting)?


I assume it's just the cultural hierarchy thing.  My coT and I would go together to ask the principal permission for special things like my vacation dates.  He was super chill though; my coT said she was sure everything was fine but that it was just the polite thing to do. 

But for basic requests like just going to a travel school? I just have to request approval from the head teacher via NEIS.  We don't bother the principal over something so minor as that.  (If we did, we'd be bothering him thrice a week)

I get why people do their own NEIS, I do my own for the things that I repetitively do, I know who to add, and the other bits. 

I also get why some teachers have to go to the VP to check if it is ok.  What is the point of writing out a whole NEIS thing and surprising the VP/P and for them to decline it?  Holidays? Ok.  Most of my VPs have no idea about the ins and outs of my contract.  So my co-t will go and say that I'm going to take x amount of days.  He'll say ok.  My co-teacher explains I have 18 days + 5 extra for renewing, so it's all possible.  If there is anything done wrong it is his name that'll be drawn into it, and it could affect promotion.  I shouldn't just be able to make my own NEIS with all my vacation dates on it and then just send it to the Co-T/Department head/VP and P.  In an ideal world, yes, but in Korea, it doesn't work like that.  To my mind there is no feedback part for NEIS, if it is done wrong then the VP has to come and find the teacher to tell them to submit again and deleting it is a bit of a hassle.  I get the feeling, I contradicted myself in this post, but I can't be bothered going back and re-reading it. 

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7007 on: September 11, 2017, 12:15:39 PM »
I found out today that some students at my middle school have complained about teachers cutting in the lunch line and eating first. Today, the vice principal was in the cafeteria talking to students as we teachers cut in line.  There is also a sign that reminds students that teachers eat first.

SMH  :huh:

They should be happy they are even getting food! My school didn't even feed the students who came to (a closed) school today. The cafeteria only prepared food for the teachers.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7008 on: September 11, 2017, 12:27:01 PM »
I'm so done with work and Korea in general, I want to just sleep until my contract is up.

Same. Seven more weeks.

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« Reply #7009 on: September 11, 2017, 01:36:02 PM »
I'm pretty bummed about this whole subscription/paywall thing. I don't get much in the way of positive feedback at work, neither from my coworkers nor from my students, so the positive responses I get in here when I upload the materials I create is often the only indication I have that my efforts are worth it.

I can't in good conscience keep my content on this site knowing that people will have to pay to access it, knowing that my original intent was to share it freely with my fellow teachers. I just finished going through all of the topics I've started in the lesson plan/template section and removing all of the attachments, and doing so was a real downer.

While I was doing it, I saw a comment I made in one of the threads in response to someone thanking me for my efforts. It mentioned the "warm fuzzies" I get from knowing I did a good job and that my efforts are helpful an appreciated. Now I can not longer get that here, and that's genuinely unfortunate.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7010 on: September 11, 2017, 02:23:44 PM »
Mine have to get physical authorisation before they can enter anything (for their trips and my own). They get grilled by the head-teacher and/or VP about it.

Depending on the teacher they have to make lots of trips up and down stairs.

man that's harsh. it sounds like a power trip thing from the P and/or VP. "you must come and beg and bow deeply for your time off".

my school is huge, there's like 50 teachers here. i think the P and VP would have an endless stream of teachers coming into and out of their office if they had to get in-person approval for everything.

at my school we are only made to grovel if we want to take a whole day off sick (even if we don't have any classes), or if we have to miss class for some reason.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7011 on: September 11, 2017, 02:23:44 PM »
I found out today that some students at my middle school have complained about teachers cutting in the lunch line and eating first. Today, the vice principal was in the cafeteria talking to students as we teachers cut in line.  There is also a sign that reminds students that teachers eat first.

SMH  :huh:

I always line up with the students. It sets an example, and lining up is something that needs to be installed in society here. If teachers can cut in line what message does that send?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7012 on: September 11, 2017, 02:27:21 PM »
I found out today that some students at my middle school have complained about teachers cutting in the lunch line and eating first. Today, the vice principal was in the cafeteria talking to students as we teachers cut in line.  There is also a sign that reminds students that teachers eat first.

SMH  :huh:

I always line up with the students. It sets an example, and lining up is something that needs to be installed in society here. If teachers can cut in line what message does that send?

What are you even talking about? Lining up is obviously instilled in the students if you line up with them. Who cares if a few teachers get to cut in before the students? It's not like the lunch ladies run out of food or the students don't have enough time to eat.

I don't see how this is a issue.

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« Reply #7013 on: September 11, 2017, 02:27:44 PM »
If teachers can cut in line what message does that send?

it sends the message that what's actually needed is a separate line at that school for teachers and students.

it also sends the message that teachers are to be respected, and that teachers shouldn't kowtow to the whims and demands of students. teachers in SK have already lost almost all respect with the students due to a number of things, mainly the fact that students now think they have authority over the teachers, and that the teachers must acquiesce to their every desire.

let the teachers eat first, it's basically the last bastion of authority that many are holding on to.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7014 on: September 11, 2017, 02:30:39 PM »
I found out today that some students at my middle school have complained about teachers cutting in the lunch line and eating first. Today, the vice principal was in the cafeteria talking to students as we teachers cut in line.  There is also a sign that reminds students that teachers eat first.

SMH  :huh:

I always line up with the students. It sets an example, and lining up is something that needs to be installed in society here. If teachers can cut in line what message does that send?

I always line up behind the students but they always insist I go ahead of them. 

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« Reply #7015 on: September 11, 2017, 03:02:27 PM »
I went on a nice trip this weekend but one of the people who went would not shut up. I donít understand people who feel the need to vocalize every thought and make everything about them. I spent the whole weekend with that chatty Cathy, and at school my coteacher still wonít stop talking eithe.  After each class she giggles and says, ďI think I talk too muchĒ but she wonít stop. She knows her constant blathering is a problem but nothing changes. And Iím so done with her ďKorea is the best!Ē attitude. I donít want to wish away the time I have left, and Iím going to try and enjoy my last six months here, but Iím ready to be gone.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7016 on: September 11, 2017, 03:26:19 PM »
Just had my G3 class at my main school (middle school).
They are really friendly to me outside of class time, but during class, 3 of the girls want to participate, the other girls + the boys, don't want to do anything in class and are super rowdy.
Today, I was trying to get them to quieten down, to no avail. Asked my co-T politely for help, who looked up, shrugged, told me I'm not allowed to do any form of discipline, and then went back to her phone games. She snapped at me when I tried doing the for every 1 min of my time you waste, I'll waste a minute of your time. Team based point system hasn't worked.

After class, she had a long talk with me about me needing to control the students better, even though she admits that she can't do it in her own class. She said they all hate studying, and so are like this in every class. Every other class I have this year is okay. >.< 

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7017 on: September 11, 2017, 04:06:38 PM »
I always line up with the students. It sets an example, and lining up is something that needs to be installed in society here. If teachers can cut in line what message does that send?
But how can you lead by example when you're standing in the back?
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« Reply #7018 on: September 11, 2017, 04:25:14 PM »
I thought Paypal didn't even work well in Korea...?

I don't mind the idea of a subscription, but I do wish major contributors would have received a personal warning even three days before- "Hey, we're doing this, please move your content offsite so you can have unrestricted access." This is stealing, yo.

I went on a nice trip this weekend but one of the people who went would not shut up. I donít understand people who feel the need to vocalize every thought and make everything about them. I spent the whole weekend with that chatty Cathy...

I feel you. A friend from high school came to visit me in China and she talked so much, so long, and so loudly that I lost my voice just trying to keep up and I ended up having to take a day off work after she left because I was physically exhausted from all the talking.

Not talking wasn't even an option. I'd tell her we were changing or taking a nap, and she'd shout through the door. Ditto for showering, pooping, etc.

If you are sharing a small space and/or the majority of your time with someone, HECK OFF OCCASIONALLY!

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #7019 on: September 11, 2017, 09:29:15 PM »
This has been bugging me for a while. It's not a rant. It's more a confused question: why, for the love of Mike, would someone use the recycle bin as a storage folder?!