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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4540 on: March 31, 2017, 03:08:26 PM »
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It's my co-teachers husbands grandfather  :blank:

Admittedly It's unusual to go but there was originally a dinner planned with that coteacher tonight so everyone feels awkward about not going, then they were like, let's go together! So now I am going to some random dudes funeral and I really cant be arsed. I just can't handle the awkwardness.

I have an out, I am the foreigner, they said it's okay if I have another plan (but they know I don't) but I dont want to be the dick that didn't go when everyone else did, also I want that coteacher to come to my wedding whenever it is.......sooooooo..... >:(

Just remember to keep your phone in your pocket when you are in the room with him.

Just follow the person in front when they do the ritual bowing and kiss.

I went to one recently after work (I was kinda dragged into it, but whatever.) All we did was bow to the picture in a special alcove at the funeral home and then the funeral director offered us food in a different room. Supposedly the viewing of the body is reserved for family members, so it won't be too awkward if that's the case.


Yeah I went to my other co workers fathers funeral last year so I've experienced it before. In that case I didn't feel awkward because we we're close and I wanted to show her I was thinking about her.

My coworkers husbands grandfather tho....anyway It'll be fine. Thankfully we should be in and out within an hour or so.

Ahh okay. This was my first one. It was a coworker's wife's mother. Equally awkward, but it was just me and my coteacher that went so we were there for maybe 15 minutes tops.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4541 on: March 31, 2017, 03:12:00 PM »
Pissed off at myself for not studying Korean more diligently. Pissed off at myself for not being more observant. If I had been more observant, or I could understand Korean enough, I could've noticed the two boys about to start physically fighting in the beginning of my class.

I really feel like such a shit teacher when this happens.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4542 on: March 31, 2017, 03:14:37 PM »
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It's my co-teachers husbands grandfather  :blank:

Admittedly It's unusual to go but there was originally a dinner planned with that coteacher tonight so everyone feels awkward about not going, then they were like, let's go together! So now I am going to some random dudes funeral and I really cant be arsed. I just can't handle the awkwardness.

I have an out, I am the foreigner, they said it's okay if I have another plan (but they know I don't) but I dont want to be the dick that didn't go when everyone else did, also I want that coteacher to come to my wedding whenever it is.......sooooooo..... >:(

Just remember to keep your phone in your pocket when you are in the room with him.

Just follow the person in front when they do the ritual bowing and kiss.

I went to one recently after work (I was kinda dragged into it, but whatever.) All we did was bow to the picture in a special alcove at the funeral home and then the funeral director offered us food in a different room. Supposedly the viewing of the body is reserved for family members, so it won't be too awkward if that's the case.


Yeah I went to my other co workers fathers funeral last year so I've experienced it before. In that case I didn't feel awkward because we we're close and I wanted to show her I was thinking about her.

My coworkers husbands grandfather tho....anyway It'll be fine. Thankfully we should be in and out within an hour or so.

Ahh okay. This was my first one. It was a coworker's wife's mother. Equally awkward, but it was just me and my coteacher that went so we were there for maybe 15 minutes tops.

Aaah yeah they're pretty awkward. Lucky about the 15 mins tho!

Apparently the principal is also going and he likes to stay at least 2 hours  :cry: :cry: Nooooooooooooooooooo

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4543 on: March 31, 2017, 03:29:13 PM »
I really hate how little respect is paid to the English language in the sense that Koreans allow/encourage themselves to twist it around to fit neatly into their culture instead of trying to understand the culture it comes from.

I'm not saying when they actually use English they should adopt a different culture, but in the classroom I think they should use the language and it is intended. None of that konglish bs, and I think the teachers should explain the differences between English and Korean words like "friend".

There is no way that a Korean teacher teaching Korean abroad would fail to mention that in Korea, chingu is used for same-age friends. It's so basic. Even if the students learning Korean didn't use it in that way all the time, I'm sure the teacher would make sure they knew. So... why do teachers here use the word "friend" as if it designates age too? It doesn't. It's not the exact same word as chingu and it shouldn't be treated as such.

So when I talk to students in English about a "friend" in a storybook who isn't the same age as the main character, they think they need to correct me. And when I do try to explain to the students that "friend" doesn't mean "same age" in English, it's almost as if the Korean teachers don't want me to tell them. It's like if I let them know there is a life outside of their age hierarchy before they are fully brainwashed, I'm going to completely destroy their world view. I've tried to explain the difference between friend and chingu to students before and noticed my CTs just refuse to translate what I said. It's so weird.

I don't exactly like calling my older friends "unnie" but if I'm speaking Korean to a Korean person, that's the way to do it! Yet people here think they can just bend English to fit their social norms. I don't know. I just don't think the classroom should encourage that.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4544 on: March 31, 2017, 03:48:59 PM »
Pissed off at myself for not studying Korean more diligently. Pissed off at myself for not being more observant. If I had been more observant, or I could understand Korean enough, I could've noticed the two boys about to start physically fighting in the beginning of my class.

I really feel like such a shit teacher when this happens.
Fights break out all the time (my kids are so violent), so don't be too hard on yourself. My coteacher wouldn't see them coming either. We'd have to drag the boys away from each other and hold them back so they wouldn't go at it again. She would never have any idea why they started.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4545 on: March 31, 2017, 07:07:18 PM »
I hate the town I'm in.

There's nothing intrinsically wrong about it, it's nice enough, but I feel so isolated and lonely out here. There's not a lot to do, and there aren't many expats, and I wouldn't say I'm close with many of them. I don't speak enough Korean to just go out and find things to do, and going and partying in Daegu every weekend sounds like a wonderful recipe for burning out -- which I already am starting to feel. I also don't feel that close to the people I know from Daegu, and all my friends are 3 hours away in Busan.

I'm just so bored and lonely that there's no way for me to release from work, which makes it hard to focus on/care about that.

What the hell have I gotten myself into?

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4546 on: March 31, 2017, 08:15:12 PM »
China rant...

Please stop telling me how to learn Chinese and telling me the same things over and over again like I don't know what I'm doing. Learning English from Chinese is way different than learning Chinese from English. Yeah, I get it. It's nice that you were able to go to an English speaking country with a dictionary and be able to figure out things that way. English speakers just simply cannot do this when it comes to Chinese. It really seems like some Chinese people have no concept of this idea because two different people gifted me a Chinese dictionary...

If this language had a proper alphabet, this would be nice. -_-

Chinese people are really nice, honestly. But, do they have to be...that nice?  :undecided:

I know I usually get on to people who complain about learning a language, but Chinese not having an alphabet is probably something I complain about forever, even if I do get to the point where I can read and pronounce the language properly ^^
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4547 on: March 31, 2017, 08:30:11 PM »
I hate the town I'm in.

There's nothing intrinsically wrong about it, it's nice enough, but I feel so isolated and lonely out here. There's not a lot to do, and there aren't many expats, and I wouldn't say I'm close with many of them. I don't speak enough Korean to just go out and find things to do, and going and partying in Daegu every weekend sounds like a wonderful recipe for burning out -- which I already am starting to feel. I also don't feel that close to the people I know from Daegu, and all my friends are 3 hours away in Busan.

I'm just so bored and lonely that there's no way for me to release from work, which makes it hard to focus on/care about that.

What the hell have I gotten myself into?

Been there; done that.  Get a hobby.  I took up photography.  Study Korean, etc.  It'll kill the time and make it so you have something to look forward to.  Also, social media will let you keep in contact with folks back home, on other cities here, or whatever.  Kills the loneliness feeling.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4548 on: March 31, 2017, 08:41:52 PM »
I hate the town I'm in.

There's nothing intrinsically wrong about it, it's nice enough, but I feel so isolated and lonely out here. There's not a lot to do, and there aren't many expats, and I wouldn't say I'm close with many of them. I don't speak enough Korean to just go out and find things to do, and going and partying in Daegu every weekend sounds like a wonderful recipe for burning out -- which I already am starting to feel. I also don't feel that close to the people I know from Daegu, and all my friends are 3 hours away in Busan.

I'm just so bored and lonely that there's no way for me to release from work, which makes it hard to focus on/care about that.

What the hell have I gotten myself into?
Simply sounds like stage two of culture shock...

It's the most difficult for many to get through.

Read up and good luck.

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« Reply #4549 on: April 01, 2017, 02:52:53 AM »
I hate the town I'm in.

There's nothing intrinsically wrong about it, it's nice enough, but I feel so isolated and lonely out here. There's not a lot to do, and there aren't many expats, and I wouldn't say I'm close with many of them. I don't speak enough Korean to just go out and find things to do, and going and partying in Daegu every weekend sounds like a wonderful recipe for burning out -- which I already am starting to feel. I also don't feel that close to the people I know from Daegu, and all my friends are 3 hours away in Busan.

I'm just so bored and lonely that there's no way for me to release from work, which makes it hard to focus on/care about that.

What the hell have I gotten myself into?

I'm sorry you're feeling this way. Being isolated from others that you can regularly communicate with and not being used to it can make the culture shock that much worse.

To combat it, you really need to engage with yourself more. Take up some hobbies that keep you active, both physically and mentally, and challenge yourself more. Depending on what you choose to get into, you can even find many expat FB groups to interact with, too.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4550 on: April 03, 2017, 07:44:52 AM »
I don't understand the "You teach public school, shame on you" argument. It happened on here a week ago when I made an off-colour, sexual joke. "You teach kids, I can't believe it, OMG."

A better example would have been this weekend. As many of you know, I'm recently single, so on Friday night I had a bit too much beer. I texted this 10/10 Korean girl that I met years ago and told her that I would love to take her to a love motel and have some fun with her. NOW, if you want to criticise me for being a complete moron, go for it. It was a stupid thing to do and I apologised later to her and her BF, however, I got a message saying, "You teach elemenetary school, shame on you, you pervert."

I will never understand this. Do they think my sex drive will transfer over onto 11 year olds?
Unless they make posters of the chat and put them up all over the neighbourhood around the school, the kids and community are free from this. (They live in North rural Incheon, me I'm well south of Seoul.)

If a teacher is clubbing and dancing with a guy/girl, are they to be shamed for that? Are teachers not allowed to have sex with people?

I'm an idiot, but it doesn't bleed over into a "Where are you from?" lesson.

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« Reply #4551 on: April 03, 2017, 07:54:26 AM »


Yea CO2 I completely agree with you!  That leap made by some people makes no sense at all.

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« Reply #4552 on: April 03, 2017, 08:03:09 AM »


Yea CO2 I completely agree with you!  That leap made by some people makes no sense at all.

I think it has to do with the idea that teachers are kind of like parents, and nobody wants to think of their parents having sex.


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« Reply #4553 on: April 03, 2017, 08:04:58 AM »
I don't understand the "You teach public school, shame on you" argument. It happened on here a week ago when I made an off-colour, sexual joke. "You teach kids, I can't believe it, OMG."

A better example would have been this weekend. As many of you know, I'm recently single, so on Friday night I had a bit too much beer. I texted this 10/10 Korean girl that I met years ago and told her that I would love to take her to a love motel and have some fun with her. NOW, if you want to criticise me for being a complete moron, go for it. It was a stupid thing to do and I apologised later to her and her BF, however, I got a message saying, "You teach elemenetary school, shame on you, you pervert."

I will never understand this. Do they think my sex drive will transfer over onto 11 year olds?
Unless they make posters of the chat and put them up all over the neighbourhood around the school, the kids and community are free from this. (They live in North rural Incheon, me I'm well south of Seoul.)

If a teacher is clubbing and dancing with a guy/girl, are they to be shamed for that? Are teachers not allowed to have sex with people?

I'm an idiot, but it doesn't bleed over into a "Where are you from?" lesson.

It probably goes back to the old pillars of community idea. The school teacher, the priest, the councilor etc...I guess the downside was they were supposed to behave in a more restrained, respectable manner but the upside was you wouldn't have got parents coming to the school threatening to beat them up, as you do nowadays.

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« Reply #4554 on: April 03, 2017, 09:30:37 AM »
CO2,

If you are not actually a licensed teacher, carry on.

However, if you are, then you would be fully aware of the standards, the professional ethics, codes of conduct, professional boundaries, etc. that we are required to maintain inside and outside of the school.

It is 24/7.

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« Reply #4555 on: April 03, 2017, 09:44:49 AM »
Teachers in the US have been reprimanded or even fired/forced to resign over photos on social media of them with alcohol. 

Can you imagine if teachers in Korea were fired for getting caught drinking?  There'd be hardly any teachers left. 

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« Reply #4556 on: April 03, 2017, 09:50:17 AM »
Just thinking about it a bit more...

Teachers shouldn't be shamed for doing things that every adult does (sex, drinking alcohol etc).

But on the other hand I wouldn't want people to know that I "texted this 10/10 Korean girl that I met years ago and told her that I would love to take her to a love motel and have some fun with her".  That reflects badly on you if you are a teacher I suppose.

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« Reply #4557 on: April 03, 2017, 09:58:35 AM »
Just thinking about it a bit more...

Teachers shouldn't be shamed for doing things that every adult does (sex, drinking alcohol etc).

But on the other hand I wouldn't want people to know that I "texted this 10/10 Korean girl that I met years ago and told her that I would love to take her to a love motel and have some fun with her".  That reflects badly on you if you are a teacher I suppose.


Basically.  But this forum can be an outlet with anonymity and I think CO2 was just being detailed in ranting to make a point.  I doubt he's telling people in real life.  Most all of us have done stupid stuff in our lives that we'd rather not make public. 

EDIT:  While I would hate to be the recipient of such a message, I can also sympathize with the frustration of "you are a teacher so you must be pious and perfect" attitude. 
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« Reply #4558 on: April 03, 2017, 10:07:09 AM »
Just thinking about it a bit more...

Teachers shouldn't be shamed for doing things that every adult does (sex, drinking alcohol etc).

But on the other hand I wouldn't want people to know that I "texted this 10/10 Korean girl that I met years ago and told her that I would love to take her to a love motel and have some fun with her".  That reflects badly on you if you are a teacher I suppose.


Basically.  But this forum can be an outlet with anonymity and I think CO2 was just being detailed in ranting to make a point.  I doubt he's telling people in real life.  Most all of us have done stupid stuff in our lives that we'd rather not make public. 

EDIT:  While I would hate to be the recipient of such a message, I can also sympathize with the frustration of "you are a teacher so you must be pious and perfect" attitude.

Oh yea I agree with you, I'm sure he isn't.  CO2, are you?!  :P

I can understand that girl's reaction because it probably is a little shocking to hear that from a teacher but I completely understand the rant about us having to be nuns and monks generally in the eyes of Koreans.

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« Reply #4559 on: April 03, 2017, 10:15:52 AM »
I completely understand the rant about us having to be nuns and monks generally in the eyes of Koreans.
Exaggerating for argument's sake?