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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4480 on: March 28, 2017, 08:18:55 AM »
I'm not sure I'd call a language having multiple words for the same thing a "huge failing," but different strokes, I guess.
It's not so much that one meaning has multiple words (which adds a lot of tasteful flavour to a language, especially when it comes to poetry and literature), but that one meaning has multiple words which are shared by related but very different meanings.
Imagine a hypothetical language where the word for 'blue' and 'green' was the same. Moreover, imagine that there were also two words for 'blue', but that the second word was shared by the meaning 'purple'.
I feel that that's just sloppy coding.


And by 'hypothetical language', I mean Japanese (for the first part, at least). :smiley:

Haha I was gonna say...

Korean, too, if my former CoT is to be believed. He said that until relatively recently (50 years or so ago, maybe), Korean didn't really distinguish between certain shades of green and blue, and that there are still some older Korean people who don't/can't. He specifically gave traffic lights as an example of something they might call "blue," to give an idea of what shades he meant, I guess.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4481 on: March 28, 2017, 11:38:51 AM »
The soup at lunch today smelled like dirty sea water and wet dog.

I feel this. Today I thought a kindergartener pissed in the cafeteria, because the miso paste soup smelled so foul.

Reading this while eating my homemade chicken biryani, with basmati rice ;D.
Life's too short to eat crap.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4482 on: March 28, 2017, 11:44:11 AM »
The soup at lunch today smelled like dirty sea water and wet dog.

I feel this. Today I thought a kindergartener pissed in the cafeteria, because the miso paste soup smelled so foul.

Reading this while eating my homemade chicken biryani, with basmati rice ;D.
Life's too short to eat crap.

I just finished my ham and cheese sandwich:
Homecured ham
homebaked bread
homemade tomato relish

Learn cheesemaking is my next goal.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4483 on: March 28, 2017, 12:02:40 PM »
"Your next class is a class that none of the Korean teachers can handle, even the strictest Korean teacher can't handle them. So I won't be coming to this class with you anymore, none of the other Korean teachers want to be with you for this class either. Goodluck." Teacher then leaves the class, and says for the rest of my time here, won't be helping me with this 1 class >.<

Also, done 2 hours of work only to get some bizarre saving error, that wiped all my work that I had done. >.<

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4484 on: March 28, 2017, 12:20:16 PM »
I just finished my ham and cheese sandwich:
Homecured ham
homebaked bread
homemade tomato relish

Learn cheesemaking is my next goal.


I just went down to visit 최참판댁 near Hadong and there's a small shop along the approaching road called 상남치즈 which sells a variety of hand-made goat cheeses. They are as good any I've had in or out of Korea, although aside from Imsil Cheese I can't say I know of any other domestic cheeses here. The guy was trained in Switzerland and couldn't have been nicer. Perhaps he offers courses (or apprenticeships). :azn:

http://sncheese.com/
https://sncheese.modoo.at/
Map: http://naver.me/FujvlPWI
« Last Edit: March 28, 2017, 12:22:10 PM by donovan »

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4485 on: March 28, 2017, 12:23:45 PM »
I just finished my ham and cheese sandwich:
Homecured ham
homebaked bread
homemade tomato relish

Learn cheesemaking is my next goal.


I just went down to visit 최참판댁 near Hadong and there's a small shop along the approaching road called 상남치즈 which sells a variety of hand-made goat cheeses. They are as good any I've had in or out of Korea, although aside from Imsil Cheese I can't say I know of any other domestic cheeses here. The guy was trained in Switzerland and couldn't have been nicer. Perhaps he offers courses (or apprenticeships). :azn:

http://sncheese.com/
https://sncheese.modoo.at/
Map: http://naver.me/FujvlPWI

I might just check that out.  Cheers dude.

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« Reply #4486 on: March 28, 2017, 12:30:40 PM »
"Your next class is a class that none of the Korean teachers can handle, even the strictest Korean teacher can't handle them. So I won't be coming to this class with you anymore, none of the other Korean teachers want to be with you for this class either. Goodluck." Teacher then leaves the class, and says for the rest of my time here, won't be helping me with this 1 class >.<

Also, done 2 hours of work only to get some bizarre saving error, that wiped all my work that I had done. >.<

You could be a hardass about it and point out that, unless it's an after school class, you're contractually obligated to have a teacher in the room with you. You could also take it up with your POE, if someone working there is the helpful type.

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« Reply #4487 on: March 28, 2017, 12:51:37 PM »
"Your next class is a class that none of the Korean teachers can handle, even the strictest Korean teacher can't handle them. So I won't be coming to this class with you anymore, none of the other Korean teachers want to be with you for this class either. Goodluck." Teacher then leaves the class, and says for the rest of my time here, won't be helping me with this 1 class >.<

Also, done 2 hours of work only to get some bizarre saving error, that wiped all my work that I had done. >.<

You could be a hardass about it and point out that, unless it's an after school class, you're contractually obligated to have a teacher in the room with you. You could also take it up with your POE, if someone working there is the helpful type.

Honestly, it's not worth the hassle 'cause I'm leaving in 4.5 weeks. I don't have any problems with them but, today's questions were a little too challenging, so I needed her help with a few translations. Also, once my school cut my job, the only person in my POE that speaks English stopped taking my calls / returning emails. :\
« Last Edit: March 28, 2017, 01:15:08 PM by Kayos »

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4488 on: March 28, 2017, 01:08:27 PM »
I just finished my ham and cheese sandwich:
Homecured ham
homebaked bread
homemade tomato relish

Learn cheesemaking is my next goal.


I just went down to visit 최참판댁 near Hadong and there's a small shop along the approaching road called 상남치즈 which sells a variety of hand-made goat cheeses. They are as good any I've had in or out of Korea, although aside from Imsil Cheese I can't say I know of any other domestic cheeses here. The guy was trained in Switzerland and couldn't have been nicer. Perhaps he offers courses (or apprenticeships). :azn:

http://sncheese.com/
https://sncheese.modoo.at/
Map: http://naver.me/FujvlPWI

I might just check that out.  Cheers dude.

It's not uncommon to find local farmers sell goat cheese over here. Unfortunately, it's on an extremely small scale and it's pretty much by word of mouth.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4489 on: March 28, 2017, 01:13:59 PM »
The soup at lunch today smelled like dirty sea water and wet dog.

I feel this. Today I thought a kindergartener pissed in the cafeteria, because the miso paste soup smelled so foul.

Hahaha I am so sorry. That is a hilarious visual and thank you for the laugh as I struggle to stay awake at my desk today. That sounds horrendous. No one else at lunch seems to notice it though...downing it, no problem. Meanwhile I'm holding my breath each time I go in to take a bite of rice. Today was better...

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4490 on: March 28, 2017, 01:40:14 PM »
I just finished my ham and cheese sandwich:
Homecured ham
homebaked bread
homemade tomato relish

Learn cheesemaking is my next goal.


I just went down to visit 최참판댁 near Hadong and there's a small shop along the approaching road called 상남치즈 which sells a variety of hand-made goat cheeses. They are as good any I've had in or out of Korea, although aside from Imsil Cheese I can't say I know of any other domestic cheeses here. The guy was trained in Switzerland and couldn't have been nicer. Perhaps he offers courses (or apprenticeships). :azn:

http://sncheese.com/
https://sncheese.modoo.at/
Map: http://naver.me/FujvlPWI
Best goat cheese to be had in Korea is from Waeg Farm https://www.facebook.com/waegfarm/

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4491 on: March 28, 2017, 02:48:44 PM »
Why is my CT always punching herself?

and

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/05/schools-behavior-discipline-collaborative-proactive-solutions-ross-greene

Someone posted this on FB.

Of course, I know the usual punishments don't really do anything to help students who have emotional issues and learning disabilities, but this article really just brushes over the other students' rights to have a safe and comfortable classroom environment. Is simply talking to kids who have emotional outbursts really the only option? I think it's not just "momentary peace" that comes from removing the disruptive student from the classroom, it's peace all year long that will be felt by all the students if they know their teacher will remove violent students from the classroom.

Back home, the schools I worked in developed a special room for students with emotional problems. When those students acted out the teacher sent them to the room, or the student just went on their own, and the room was like... full of pillows and shit and had places for them to do their work. I think that's a good start for handling those types of students, because lets be real, teachers with ~30 students don't have all the free time in the world to stop their class and talk a child out of his or her rage. But I don't know if that's actually helpful to the child or not.

In Korea, I've seen a lot of children with emotional problems who are just allowed to act out and destroy things in their classroom. I've seen these types of students throw their desks, stab their books, rip apart their papers, hit and bite other students, all while being allowed to remain the the classroom. No one does anything. We just wait until they stop and the student sulks at his desk for the rest of the period. The room is tense afterwards, the students who have to sit next to the ones with the outbursts are legitimately afraid of them. They have to let the angry student get away with smaller, often more petty emotional outbursts out of fear that it will escalate. 

I had 3rd and 4th graders with major issues who were just allowed to sit next to other students and bite/scratch them all period long. The teachers didn't do anything when this kid started his angry outbursts. It was so strange to watch. Are all teachers this helpless?


I have no answer to what to do with these students, I just wish these schools would do something instead of just ignoring it. The classroom shouldn't be a scary place.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4492 on: March 28, 2017, 03:07:21 PM »
Why is my CT always punching herself?

This reminds me of a coworker who lightly beats himself with a mallet. 

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4493 on: March 28, 2017, 03:45:56 PM »
re: the kids with behavioral problems.

my experience in korea is that a lot of the time the answer to something is simply: laziness.

why can't you get adequate medical treatment? doctor's too lazy to do the work required for adequate treatment and diagnosis.

go to the bank and someone tells you something is 'impossible' when you know it isn't? person is too lazy to do the paperwork required to get you what you want.

kids acting up in class with behavioral issues? they could be helped/sorted out but it would require actual effort and work. far easier to just say 'they have ADHD' or 'they have a hard family life' and leave it alone.

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« Reply #4494 on: March 28, 2017, 03:47:20 PM »
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my experience in korea is that a lot of the time the answer to something is simply: laziness.

Yep, the same reason for teaching in Korean all the time, though they will claim otherwise.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4495 on: March 28, 2017, 08:07:00 PM »
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« Reply #4496 on: March 28, 2017, 09:24:57 PM »
I'm a teacher in China(legally obligated to state that when posting on here  ;D)

I was talking about working at the same school with one of my co-workers what she would think if I worked at the same school for a new contract and she said it would be nice since they seem to like me enough but I need to improve a lot as a teacher as well.

Which is fair enough. I don't think I ever claimed to be a good teacher and whenever a class didn't go well I would feel genuinely upset...I mean, up to a certain point. Honestly, it just kind of felt like the school stopped caring how well I did or how well my classes went based on how much help I was getting or how little people were saying. But, ya know, we live in a world where people don't like talking to each other directly, so I was honestly pretty appreciative of this kind of honest feedback.

Though, the one thing she said that made me pause for thought...no, actually, I just blatantly disagreed was the fact that "all of the students are eager to talk with you and learn English" which is just...like...huh? That kind of statement makes me think she's never worked with a student before...especially a middle school student...she pointed out one of her students as an example of someone who's eager to learn English...the good student, the one who was going to try to learn regardless.

I've dealt with high school students in the US and I'm dealing with middle school students in this country and a lot of kids really just don't give a shit at all. I remember in the middle school I went to in the US, we had a substitute teacher whose English ability was really low and he had a hard to communicating with the students. Also, it seemed like we were dealing with the fact that he was afraid of losing his job if he complained too much. Anyway, I'm basically that person here because the students are giving me the same respect that that substitute had at my middle school. Give the students no reason to care and not care they will.

I don't really want to complain too much about my students and my school because I know these are just challenges I need to overcome, but a statement like that is just so... -_-
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« Reply #4499 on: March 29, 2017, 08:10:32 AM »
I'm a teacher in China(legally obligated to state that when posting on here  ;D)

I was talking about working at the same school with one of my co-workers what she would think if I worked at the same school for a new contract and she said it would be nice since they seem to like me enough but I need to improve a lot as a teacher as well.

Which is fair enough. I don't think I ever claimed to be a good teacher and whenever a class didn't go well I would feel genuinely upset...I mean, up to a certain point. Honestly, it just kind of felt like the school stopped caring how well I did or how well my classes went based on how much help I was getting or how little people were saying. But, ya know, we live in a world where people don't like talking to each other directly, so I was honestly pretty appreciative of this kind of honest feedback.

Though, the one thing she said that made me pause for thought...no, actually, I just blatantly disagreed was the fact that "all of the students are eager to talk with you and learn English" which is just...like...huh? That kind of statement makes me think she's never worked with a student before...especially a middle school student...she pointed out one of her students as an example of someone who's eager to learn English...the good student, the one who was going to try to learn regardless.

I've dealt with high school students in the US and I'm dealing with middle school students in this country and a lot of kids really just don't give a shit at all. I remember in the middle school I went to in the US, we had a substitute teacher whose English ability was really low and he had a hard to communicating with the students. Also, it seemed like we were dealing with the fact that he was afraid of losing his job if he complained too much. Anyway, I'm basically that person here because the students are giving me the same respect that that substitute had at my middle school. Give the students no reason to care and not care they will.

I don't really want to complain too much about my students and my school because I know these are just challenges I need to overcome, but a statement like that is just so... -_-

I'm pretty much in the same boat as you, I think. Based on my experience, students tend to take the NET's English class as seriously as the co-teacher you are with. Last year, I had 4 co-teachers, the elementary classes I had to teach (no book, was up to me what we would do) went the best, because the co-teacher gave a crap, and if the students showed me any less respect, than what they showed her, she got on their case real quick.
My co-teacher that spoke no English, would just nap / kakao / facebook game on her phone at the back of the class... the kids would be rowdy, loud, wouldn't calm down, she would calm them down if they disturbed her too much, but the peace would last for about 60 seconds. My other 2 co-teachers, to some degree care, so it's kind of a mixed bag about how well something goes with them.