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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4380 on: March 03, 2017, 03:49:45 PM »
I have about a month left on my gym membership, but I'm seriously considering not renewing because of the men there. One in particular really makes me uncomfortable. At the same time, though, I'd hate to give up the machines available and convenient location just because of a few perverted assholes.

Teetering on this decision, angry that it's not as easy as it should be.

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« Reply #4381 on: March 03, 2017, 04:22:17 PM »
I have about a month left on my gym membership, but I'm seriously considering not renewing because of the men there. One in particular really makes me uncomfortable. At the same time, though, I'd hate to give up the machines available and convenient location just because of a few perverted assholes.

Teetering on this decision, angry that it's not as easy as it should be.

Were you the person who gets guys farting on you while you were exercising? Or was that someone else here?

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« Reply #4382 on: March 03, 2017, 04:31:38 PM »
I have about a month left on my gym membership, but I'm seriously considering not renewing because of the men there. One in particular really makes me uncomfortable. At the same time, though, I'd hate to give up the machines available and convenient location just because of a few perverted assholes.

Teetering on this decision, angry that it's not as easy as it should be.

Were you the person who gets guys farting on you while you were exercising? Or was that someone else here?

LMFAO

No, but I remember reading about that and found the original thread for you to relive.


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« Reply #4383 on: March 03, 2017, 06:55:43 PM »
Has Korea recently passed new regulations on importing cosmetics?

I've lost count of the amount of times recently when I've tried to stock up on stuff only to see "This item does not ship to your selected country".

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« Reply #4384 on: March 03, 2017, 08:29:51 PM »
Has Korea recently passed new regulations on importing cosmetics?

I've lost count of the amount of times recently when I've tried to stock up on stuff only to see "This item does not ship to your selected country".

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My zany theory is because Korean cosmetics are not doing the same business in China because of import restrictions, they need to pick up the slack domestically.
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« Reply #4385 on: March 06, 2017, 11:53:12 AM »
Apparently my principal thinks it's perfectly logical to shift my CT from last year, one of two teachers at my school who could speak English, into homeroom teacher's position which any Korean teacher could do, and replace her with someone who doesn't speak a lick of English.


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« Reply #4386 on: March 06, 2017, 02:56:12 PM »
Apparently my principal thinks it's perfectly logical to shift my CT from last year, one of two teachers at my school who could speak English, into homeroom teacher's position which any Korean teacher could do, and replace her with someone who doesn't speak a lick of English.


This literally happens every school year for me, and also sometimes between semesters, too.

Just need to get used to it. It's annoying as heck.

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« Reply #4387 on: March 06, 2017, 03:00:03 PM »
Apparently my principal thinks it's perfectly logical to shift my CT from last year, one of two teachers at my school who could speak English, into homeroom teacher's position which any Korean teacher could do, and replace her with someone who doesn't speak a lick of English.


This literally happens every school year for me, and also sometimes between semesters, too.

Just need to get used to it. It's annoying as heck.

My CT from last year was livid when the principal took her off English and put in the 4th grade teacher who legit didn't speak a word to me all of last year. They don't get a native teacher this year so those kids are doomed. He said "see you tomorrow" on my last day cuz he thought it was the same as saying goodbye. My elementary third graders knew more and were more confident than him...

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4388 on: March 06, 2017, 04:53:39 PM »
One thing I never look forward to when starting a new school year is the hurr hurr Americans are so fat jokes the students/coteachers make right in front of me. They always make me start with an intro about myself and my country, and whenever food comes up they scream "ahh delicious! but americans are so fat haha!"

1. It's RUDE. I'll never understand why they think they can drag other countries through the mud to our faces but just mention you don't like the smell of kimchi and it's like you've taken a shit on their ancestors' graves.
2. There are quite a few chubby kids in these classes as well. They probably don't feel great when size is brought up as the butt of a joke in class. It's totally inappropriate and irresponsible for teachers to allow/encourage this behavior. 
3. I have been skinnier than every single one of my co teachers. Countdown until they whine again about how thin my legs are "it's not fair you are American!!" Guess what! There are people from all over the world who are thinner than you, healthier than you, smarter than you, so stop trying to feel superior by repeating these obnoxious stereotypes. It's not going to make your place in the world any better.


One of the worst parts about teaching here is having to see these kids be indoctrinated into such ignorant ways of viewing the world outside of Korea. The inaccurate and stereotypical ways text books portray other cultures juxtaposed with the way every mention of Korea/Koreans is one big circle jerk (like textbooks with paragraphs in English about some Korean cultural point that ended the blurb with "Aren't Koreans so smart?") would be pathetic if it didn't actually work. The stuff that is allowed and even encouraged... I'm not surprised by how uncouth even educated, well traveled Koreans have been in even everyday conversations with me and other non Koreans. Sure, the weight thing is pretty insignificant (and yes Americans are very fat, I know it's true) but it doesn't stop there. The us v them rhetoric is encouraged by blanket statements used to portray Korea/Koreans in a positive light while demeaning others.  This is why the nationalistic egos here are so damn fragile. They are built on bullshit, and once they grow up, it seems like there is nothing to counteract everything they've already learned no matter how much they hate their lives. Hell Joseon, but Korea is still the best!





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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4389 on: March 06, 2017, 05:03:01 PM »
One thing I never look forward to when starting a new school year is the hurr hurr Americans are so fat jokes the students/coteachers make right in front of me. They always make me start with an intro about myself and my country, and whenever food comes up they scream "ahh delicious! but americans are so fat haha!"

1. It's RUDE. I'll never understand why they think they can drag other countries through the mud to our faces but just mention you don't like the smell of kimchi and it's like you've taken a shit on their ancestors' graves.
2. There are quite a few chubby kids in these classes as well. They probably don't feel great when size is brought up as the butt of a joke in class. It's totally inappropriate and irresponsible for teachers to allow/encourage this behavior. 
3. I have been skinnier than every single one of my co teachers. Countdown until they whine again about how thin my legs are "it's not fair you are American!!" Guess what! There are people from all over the world who are thinner than you, healthier than you, smarter than you, so stop trying to feel superior by repeating these obnoxious stereotypes. It's not going to make your place in the world any better.


One of the worst parts about teaching here is having to see these kids be indoctrinated into such ignorant ways of viewing the world outside of Korea. The inaccurate and stereotypical ways text books portray other cultures juxtaposed with the way every mention of Korea/Koreans is one big circle jerk (like textbooks with paragraphs in English about some Korean cultural point that ended the blurb with "Aren't Koreans so smart?") would be pathetic if it didn't actually work. The stuff that is allowed and even encouraged... I'm not surprised by how uncouth even educated, well traveled Koreans have been in even everyday conversations with me and other non Koreans. Sure, the weight thing is pretty insignificant (and yes Americans are very fat, I know it's true) but it doesn't stop there. The us v them rhetoric is encouraged by blanket statements used to portray Korea/Koreans in a positive light while demeaning others.  This is why the nationalistic egos here are so damn fragile. They are built on bullshit, and once they grow up, it seems like there is nothing to counteract everything they've already learned no matter how much they hate their lives. Hell Joseon, but Korea is still the best!


Painfully accurate.

The fact that it's so habitual to refer to Koreans and 'foreigners,' which essentially is a catchall for all the literal billions of other people in the world who aren't one of 35ish million Koreans, is ridiculous.

I can't believe that the only way they've figured out how to draw other nationalities in textbooks is take the most stereotypical costume of that country and slap it on a cartoon character. Fact: a person can be from China and not wear a qipao. A person can be from Japan without being in a kimono or yukata. Not all Americans wear cowboy hats. Africans don't live in huts. Ugh.

Like - just have a person. And say this person is from this country. Or have them standing under their flag. Don't cartoonify literally every other nationality.

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« Reply #4390 on: March 06, 2017, 05:11:48 PM »
Elem. coT introduced me to all the newbies today. And told them I didn't know any Korean other than "Hello."  Ironically I understood basically all she was telling them (where I'm from, that I don't speak Korean, how long I've been here, etc.).

Not a huge deal as I probably won't speak to these people much as I only ever see them in passing on occasion but I'm capable of introducing myself in Korean and similarly basic stuff.  :lipsrsealed:

Oh well.  Better to be underestimated?

It's funny because at middle school they let me introduce myself.  Guess elem is full of coddling for everyone.

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« Reply #4391 on: March 06, 2017, 05:17:38 PM »
One thing I never look forward to when starting a new school year is the hurr hurr Americans are so fat jokes the students/coteachers make right in front of me. They always make me start with an intro about myself and my country, and whenever food comes up they scream "ahh delicious! but americans are so fat haha!"

1. It's RUDE. I'll never understand why they think they can drag other countries through the mud to our faces but just mention you don't like the smell of kimchi and it's like you've taken a shit on their ancestors' graves.
2. There are quite a few chubby kids in these classes as well. They probably don't feel great when size is brought up as the butt of a joke in class. It's totally inappropriate and irresponsible for teachers to allow/encourage this behavior. 
3. I have been skinnier than every single one of my co teachers. Countdown until they whine again about how thin my legs are "it's not fair you are American!!" Guess what! There are people from all over the world who are thinner than you, healthier than you, smarter than you, so stop trying to feel superior by repeating these obnoxious stereotypes. It's not going to make your place in the world any better.


One of the worst parts about teaching here is having to see these kids be indoctrinated into such ignorant ways of viewing the world outside of Korea. The inaccurate and stereotypical ways text books portray other cultures juxtaposed with the way every mention of Korea/Koreans is one big circle jerk (like textbooks with paragraphs in English about some Korean cultural point that ended the blurb with "Aren't Koreans so smart?") would be pathetic if it didn't actually work. The stuff that is allowed and even encouraged... I'm not surprised by how uncouth even educated, well traveled Koreans have been in even everyday conversations with me and other non Koreans. Sure, the weight thing is pretty insignificant (and yes Americans are very fat, I know it's true) but it doesn't stop there. The us v them rhetoric is encouraged by blanket statements used to portray Korea/Koreans in a positive light while demeaning others.  This is why the nationalistic egos here are so damn fragile. They are built on bullshit, and once they grow up, it seems like there is nothing to counteract everything they've already learned no matter how much they hate their lives. Hell Joseon, but Korea is still the best!


Painfully accurate.

The fact that it's so habitual to refer to Koreans and 'foreigners,' which essentially is a catchall for all the literal billions of other people in the world who aren't one of 35ish million Koreans, is ridiculous.

I can't believe that the only way they've figured out how to draw other nationalities in textbooks is take the most stereotypical costume of that country and slap it on a cartoon character. Fact: a person can be from China and not wear a qipao. A person can be from Japan without being in a kimono or yukata. Not all Americans wear cowboy hats. Africans don't live in huts. Ugh.

Like - just have a person. And say this person is from this country. Or have them standing under their flag. Don't cartoonify literally every other nationality.

Yeah it's so horrible for Korean books to stereotype countries. What they need to do is build a  4 minute childrens ride that feels like 4 hours with horrifying animatronics then build that same stereotyping trash ride in every other country they open a theme park in :D


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4392 on: March 06, 2017, 05:18:47 PM »
One thing I never look forward to when starting a new school year is the hurr hurr Americans are so fat jokes the students/coteachers make right in front of me. They always make me start with an intro about myself and my country, and whenever food comes up they scream "ahh delicious! but americans are so fat haha!"

1. It's RUDE. I'll never understand why they think they can drag other countries through the mud to our faces but just mention you don't like the smell of kimchi and it's like you've taken a shit on their ancestors' graves.
2. There are quite a few chubby kids in these classes as well. They probably don't feel great when size is brought up as the butt of a joke in class. It's totally inappropriate and irresponsible for teachers to allow/encourage this behavior. 
3. I have been skinnier than every single one of my co teachers. Countdown until they whine again about how thin my legs are "it's not fair you are American!!" Guess what! There are people from all over the world who are thinner than you, healthier than you, smarter than you, so stop trying to feel superior by repeating these obnoxious stereotypes. It's not going to make your place in the world any better.


One of the worst parts about teaching here is having to see these kids be indoctrinated into such ignorant ways of viewing the world outside of Korea. The inaccurate and stereotypical ways text books portray other cultures juxtaposed with the way every mention of Korea/Koreans is one big circle jerk (like textbooks with paragraphs in English about some Korean cultural point that ended the blurb with "Aren't Koreans so smart?") would be pathetic if it didn't actually work. The stuff that is allowed and even encouraged... I'm not surprised by how uncouth even educated, well traveled Koreans have been in even everyday conversations with me and other non Koreans. Sure, the weight thing is pretty insignificant (and yes Americans are very fat, I know it's true) but it doesn't stop there. The us v them rhetoric is encouraged by blanket statements used to portray Korea/Koreans in a positive light while demeaning others.  This is why the nationalistic egos here are so damn fragile. They are built on bullshit, and once they grow up, it seems like there is nothing to counteract everything they've already learned no matter how much they hate their lives. Hell Joseon, but Korea is still the best!


Painfully accurate.

The fact that it's so habitual to refer to Koreans and 'foreigners,' which essentially is a catchall for all the literal billions of other people in the world who aren't one of 35ish million Koreans, is ridiculous.

I can't believe that the only way they've figured out how to draw other nationalities in textbooks is take the most stereotypical costume of that country and slap it on a cartoon character. Fact: a person can be from China and not wear a qipao. A person can be from Japan without being in a kimono or yukata. Not all Americans wear cowboy hats. Africans don't live in huts. Ugh.

Like - just have a person. And say this person is from this country. Or have them standing under their flag. Don't cartoonify literally every other nationality.

Yeah it's so horrible for Korean books to stereotype countries. What they need to do is build a  4 minute childrens ride that feels like 4 hours with horrifying animatronics then build that same stereotyping trash ride in every other country they open a theme park in :D

Haha, fair. Other countries do it, too. And on a much larger scale. But it's still not #based.

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« Reply #4393 on: March 06, 2017, 05:19:24 PM »

I can't believe that the only way they've figured out how to draw other nationalities in textbooks is take the most stereotypical costume of that country and slap it on a cartoon character. Fact: a person can be from China and not wear a qipao. A person can be from Japan without being in a kimono or yukata. Not all Americans wear cowboy hats. Africans don't live in huts. Ugh.


From a large map on the wall of the English classroom in an elementary school I worked at a couple years back:


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« Reply #4394 on: March 06, 2017, 05:19:37 PM »
Elem. coT introduced me to all the newbies today. And told them I didn't know any Korean other than "Hello."  Ironically I understood basically all she was telling them (where I'm from, that I don't speak Korean, how long I've been here, etc.).

Not a huge deal as I probably won't speak to these people much as I only ever see them in passing on occasion but I'm capable of introducing myself in Korean and similarly basic stuff.  :lipsrsealed:

Oh well.  Better to be underestimated?

It's funny because at middle school they let me introduce myself.  Guess elem is full of coddling for everyone.

I always tell people I can't speak Korean, too.

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« Reply #4395 on: March 06, 2017, 05:22:45 PM »

I can't believe that the only way they've figured out how to draw other nationalities in textbooks is take the most stereotypical costume of that country and slap it on a cartoon character. Fact: a person can be from China and not wear a qipao. A person can be from Japan without being in a kimono or yukata. Not all Americans wear cowboy hats. Africans don't live in huts. Ugh.


From a large map on the wall of the English classroom in an elementary school I worked at a couple years back:



I understand the blowback for this, I do, but there are a tonne of tribes in Africa who still live like this. It's not false information. I'm not sure what the solution is, put everyone is a 3 piece suit? 
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« Reply #4396 on: March 06, 2017, 05:26:05 PM »

I can't believe that the only way they've figured out how to draw other nationalities in textbooks is take the most stereotypical costume of that country and slap it on a cartoon character. Fact: a person can be from China and not wear a qipao. A person can be from Japan without being in a kimono or yukata. Not all Americans wear cowboy hats. Africans don't live in huts. Ugh.


From a large map on the wall of the English classroom in an elementary school I worked at a couple years back:



I understand the blowback for this, I do, but there are a tonne of tribes in Africa who still live like this. It's not false information. I'm not sure what the solution is, put everyone is a 3 piece suit?

Or everyone could just be nude.

There could be artistically placed plants.

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« Reply #4397 on: March 06, 2017, 05:35:26 PM »
I don't really follow why you are opposed to "stereotyping"?

It is very useful, like categorizing, generalizing, etc. and helpful.

Obviously, it isn't always going to be accurate, but it will do the job in a pinch.

Walk into a room, glance around, easy.

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« Reply #4398 on: March 06, 2017, 05:39:41 PM »
I don't really follow why you are opposed to "stereotyping"?

It is very useful, like categorizing, generalizing, etc. and helpful.

Obviously, it isn't always going to be accurate, but it will do the job in a pinch.

Walk into a room, glance around, easy.

Every map shows Canadians as Mounties, this is bullsh*t....................
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« Reply #4399 on: March 06, 2017, 05:49:37 PM »
I have been skinnier than every single one of my co teachers. Countdown until they whine again about how thin my legs are "it's not fair you are American!!"

you should counter with "don't worry teacher, i know my legs are thinner than yours but your eyes are thinner than mine, so it's okay"

 

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