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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4100 on: January 12, 2017, 02:31:02 PM »
Rant: Can any of these kids think for themselves? We were playing a simple four corners game at the end of class, and the group of 10 kids all shuffled together from one corner to another. They just all do what the other people do. It's like that when they do art projects too.

The West: The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

The East: The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.
Yeah I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. But it does makes games and crafts rather boring when they all do the same thing.

The best is when I give them examples and they still sit there with blank pieces of paper and just end up copying what I draw. 

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4101 on: January 12, 2017, 03:00:18 PM »
Nope, not a hagwon, it'll be throughout the province. I understand them doing it, it feels like micromanaging, but I understand why they're doing it. I just want to know for sure.
Which province?

Rant: Can any of these kids think for themselves? We were playing a simple four corners game at the end of class, and the group of 10 kids all shuffled together from one corner to another. They just all do what the other people do. It's like that when they do art projects too.

Yes.  Need to know.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4102 on: January 12, 2017, 04:41:06 PM »
Yes.  Need to know.
Gyeongsangbuk-do for sure, but I'm fairly certain that all public school IT departments are capable of calling up browser history records.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4103 on: January 12, 2017, 05:33:06 PM »
Koreans should be taught that the alphabet has 25 letters. There doesn't seem to be a need for y.

Korean kids just do not seem able to say the word "year," but they have no problem with other Y words.

This drives me nuts:

"Say it like this: his."
"Heees."
"His."
"Heeees."
"No, like this: his."
"Heeeeeeeees."
"Ok...fine, let's try some long E sounds then since you're so good at them! Say this: beach."
"Bitch."

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4104 on: January 13, 2017, 09:41:26 AM »
I'm really looking forward to explaining to my computer-illiterate non-english speaking co-teacher that the computer screen upstairs and my computer downstairs are both fucked.

It's the touch screen upstairs that has the problem and I don't think she understands touch screen since she always touches the screen and gets shocked when the slides move.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4105 on: January 13, 2017, 10:45:03 AM »
Who, what, where, when, whow.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4106 on: January 13, 2017, 10:49:30 AM »
I'm really looking forward to explaining to my computer-illiterate non-english speaking co-teacher that the computer screen upstairs and my computer downstairs are both fucked.

It's the touch screen upstairs that has the problem and I don't think she understands touch screen since she always touches the screen and gets shocked when the slides move.

Yep that didn't work.  The screen was literally moving right in front of her face and she didn't understand.  She kept saying "the screen is fine now".  Guess I'll just suffer forever and it will only affect me since no one else uses that computer.

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« Reply #4107 on: January 13, 2017, 11:41:59 AM »
First day back after my trip home.

Walk in to find 2 live birds and one dead bird in the English classroom.

They wont put the heating on because there are no students and they suggest I move to one of the homerooms because they can control the heating themselves.


Probably moving schools in March but no one can give me an answer until...probably end of Feb.
Co-teacher said she's 99% sure I will have to move main schools but doesn't know about the rest. Unless things changed from last year, in which case she isn't actually sure. Coordinator is a damp squib so no point asking him.
Why. For once I was really happy with my schools and they are happy with me.

Before the vacation the principal asked me if i planned to stay with this school for the new semester...how the **** do you not know its not my choice.

FML :cry:

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4108 on: January 13, 2017, 11:56:58 AM »
First day back after my trip home.

Walk in to find 2 live birds and one dead bird in the English classroom.

They wont put the heating on because there are no students and they suggest I move to one of the homerooms because they can control the heating themselves.


Probably moving schools in March but no one can give me an answer until...probably end of Feb.
Co-teacher said she's 99% sure I will have to move main schools but doesn't know about the rest. Unless things changed from last year, in which case she isn't actually sure. Coordinator is a damp squib so no point asking him.
Why. For once I was really happy with my schools and they are happy with me.

Before the vacation the principal asked me if i planned to stay with this school for the new semester...how the **** do you not know its not my choice.

FML :cry:

Sorry to hear that Pennypie.  :sad:  Sadly, there is no sentiment in the Korean education system.  I had the same two countryside middle schools for seven years, then they cut all middle school teachers in the province.  Loved the students and the tiny towns I worked in.  Got moved to a hell  :evil: of an elementary school.  Thanks!!  Now after a trip through girls middle now at a girls high school and couldn't be happier.  It really is a roller coaster, but on a positive note can show how you work in adversity.  Ups and downs, ups and downs.  Hope things work out in 2017!!   :-*

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4109 on: January 13, 2017, 12:36:15 PM »
First day back after my trip home.

Walk in to find 2 live birds and one dead bird in the English classroom.

They wont put the heating on because there are no students and they suggest I move to one of the homerooms because they can control the heating themselves.


Probably moving schools in March but no one can give me an answer until...probably end of Feb.
Co-teacher said she's 99% sure I will have to move main schools but doesn't know about the rest. Unless things changed from last year, in which case she isn't actually sure. Coordinator is a damp squib so no point asking him.
Why. For once I was really happy with my schools and they are happy with me.

Before the vacation the principal asked me if i planned to stay with this school for the new semester...how the **** do you not know its not my choice.

FML :cry:

Sorry to hear that Pennypie.  :sad:  Sadly, there is no sentiment in the Korean education system.  I had the same two countryside middle schools for seven years, then they cut all middle school teachers in the province.  Loved the students and the tiny towns I worked in.  Got moved to a hell  :evil: of an elementary school.  Thanks!!  Now after a trip through girls middle now at a girls high school and couldn't be happier.  It really is a roller coaster, but on a positive note can show how you work in adversity.  Ups and downs, ups and downs.  Hope things work out in 2017!!   :-*


Thanks  :azn: True, and I know that and really I should be used to it by now. I'm on my 3rd contract and I came just as everything was messing up so I've never experienced one school or the comfort  of knowing you will be able to  stay there. I feel sort of cheated.  Glad its all worked out! I imagine Middle to Elementary must be quite the shock.


I get used to it pretty quickly when I move and soon forget the old schools, I just really cant be arsed to meet new people.  :laugh:

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4110 on: January 13, 2017, 01:07:55 PM »
I guess blocking phone numbers doesn't apply to texting?  :sad: Got a series of "helpful" messages from annoying git.

Just. Leave. Me. Alone.

*Edit: apparently blocking text messages is separate from blocking phone calls. Blocked and blocked! :D
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4111 on: January 16, 2017, 10:53:50 AM »
Battletoasta teacher can you please come back to school on the 16th of January. I would but the school is locked and no one is there.

Guess I'll try again another day.

48 days to go.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4112 on: January 16, 2017, 11:08:41 AM »
The next two days I have to work on editing kids articles for the English newspaper and I wish they would just write about dumb stuff instead of what they have written about because this is hard. My coteacher is telling me not to take it so seriously, it's just the English newspaper, but the thing is if I don't understand the facts (or non-facts) that my students are trying to get across, it's impossible for me to understand how to edit their articles.

Just spent a good amount of time trying to understand a student's writing that was saying something like "Japanese history books say Ahn Jung-Geun was an assassin, but Ito had the blood of Koreans on his hands, so why is he not considered an assassin too?" Uh well... because he's not an assassin, as far as I know. He didn't personally hold a gun and shoot any Korean politicians or activists, which would mean he is factually not an assassin. You could call him a murderer, sure, but not an assassin.

So I proposed changing the word "assassin" to murderer, but my coteacher didn't like that. Ahn Jung-Geun wasn't a murderer! How could you say that! Well, he did kill someone. According to the definition of murderer, he is one. Oh, but Koreans don't consider him a murderer. Well, this article is talking about JAPANESE perception of Korean history, not what Koreans think. Is murderer too emotionally charged? Do you want me to change it to killer? No, no, he's a... martyr, yeah, that's the word. But... Japanese people don't consider him a martyr, and this is about the Japanese perception, and also one is not a martyr because they killed someone, they are a martyr because they died. 

12 more articles to go  :cry:

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« Reply #4113 on: January 16, 2017, 11:13:50 AM »
You lost me! I'll assume I should just be understanding of the unique situation.  :P

Started the day without internet and resigned myself to using my phone. Fortunately the internet returned within an hour!

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4114 on: January 16, 2017, 11:20:11 AM »
Basically, my Korean coteacher/Koreans in general: I don't like the meaning of this word, so I don't want to use it. Even though it's the right word. I like this other word better, even though it is wrong, so I think you should use it.

Now I'm editing one about big data and the sentences are such a mess I just have to completely re-write it. I asked my coteacher if I should just try to fix it a little bit, or fix every mistake so it both reads naturally and is comprehensible and she said the latter. I know it will make the paper look better, but I feel a little bad for the kids? because they will see their article and that it is COMPLETELY different and not actually what they wrote.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4115 on: January 16, 2017, 11:25:13 AM »
I know a Korean who constantly uses the word "embarrassed" to the point where


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« Reply #4116 on: January 16, 2017, 11:30:11 AM »
Yep. It's so frustrating in school too, because I'm like... despite how it feels a lot of the time, I wasn't hired by the government just for decoration. I was hired because I'm a native speaker and I know things about words that you don't. SO Y U INSIST ON USING WRONG WORDS

The kids are cleaning the school today and the door is constantly open so my hands are freezing.

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« Reply #4117 on: January 16, 2017, 11:33:19 AM »
I am so glad my school doesn't have an English newsletter or anything. Once I had to correct papers written about English camp and I could only guess at the meaning of some of them. My coT had no idea what they actually meant either because they were written only in English and so she had nothing more to go off of than I did. I ended up writing a lot of question marks.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4118 on: January 16, 2017, 11:45:09 AM »
First day of deskwarming after vacation in Southeast Asia... so hard to come back from the sunny weather and nice people.
Came into the school today and the teacher in the office said "English teacher no changee?" Gee, thanks...

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #4119 on: January 16, 2017, 11:51:30 AM »
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The next two days I have to work on editing kids articles for the English newspaper and I wish they would just write about dumb stuff instead of what they have written about because this is hard. My coteacher is telling me not to take it so seriously, it's just the English newspaper, but the thing is if I don't understand the facts (or non-facts) that my students are trying to get across, it's impossible for me to understand how to edit their articles.

Just spent a good amount of time trying to understand a student's writing that was saying something like "Japanese history books say Ahn Jung-Geun was an assassin, but Ito had the blood of Koreans on his hands, so why is he not considered an assassin too?" Uh well... because he's not an assassin, as far as I know. He didn't personally hold a gun and shoot any Korean politicians or activists, which would mean he is factually not an assassin. You could call him a murderer, sure, but not an assassin.

So I proposed changing the word "assassin" to murderer, but my coteacher didn't like that. Ahn Jung-Geun wasn't a murderer! How could you say that! Well, he did kill someone. According to the definition of murderer, he is one. Oh, but Koreans don't consider him a murderer. Well, this article is talking about JAPANESE perception of Korean history, not what Koreans think. Is murderer too emotionally charged? Do you want me to change it to killer? No, no, he's a... martyr, yeah, that's the word. But... Japanese people don't consider him a martyr, and this is about the Japanese perception, and also one is not a martyr because they killed someone, they are a martyr because they died. 

12 more articles to go  :cry:

As per usual, when writing in English for an English newspaper, they write articles about Korean history. Probably stuff they've already had rammed down their throats in all the other subjects as well. 

 

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