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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #320 on: July 20, 2016, 06:25:30 PM »
Your coteacher may have done you a favour MataHari. The lack of colour sucks, but if your school, like mine, lacks a lever arm stapler, manual binding with whatever is on hand can be a difficult process. I've come out of it with bloody fingers most times.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #321 on: July 20, 2016, 06:29:19 PM »
I bought my own lever arm stapler for school.  I allow no-one else to use it, and my fingers remain un-lacerated.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #322 on: July 20, 2016, 06:29:40 PM »
Your coteacher may have done you a favour MataHari. The lack of colour sucks, but if your school, like mine, lacks a lever arm stapler, manual binding with whatever is on hand can be a difficult process. I've come out of it with bloody fingers most times.

... but we have a binding machine thingy and they aren't very thick  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #323 on: July 20, 2016, 06:32:33 PM »
Ugh I'm so angry and I know this might be a strong response because I'm tired of a bunch of things right now but  :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

I was trying to come up with a way to get the students to yell and swear less in class. I decided to do a point system for every single class and the class with the most points will get some kind of prize at the end. I mentioned this to the head teacher and she said it sounded good, except that for the really poorly behaved students they'll just become discouraged because they know they can't reach the top and act out even more. I thought, ok, so maybe the lowest-ranked team can have some kind of minimal punishment at the end of the year like washing all the desks or washing all the drawings and crap off the wall. I suggested it to her and she said "yeah, well, that's a nice idea but they won't do it. You don't have any power to make them do it. And even if their homeroom teacher or me tells them to do it they won't listen."

Me: "ok, then why don't I tell them there's a punishment but then just not enforce it?"
Her: "But they won't do it. they won't listen."
Me: "I know, that's why I'm saying I won't actually try to make them do it I'll just tell them to in the hopes it makes them not want to be the lowest-ranked class"
Her: "They won't listen to you, they don't care"
Me: "I'm saying.... nevermind"

I think I'll just put the points up on the board but have it be a mystery what they get or won't get. I won't tell them anything about the points system. I'll just keep it up on the board and hope that the pure motivation of not losing points keeps them at least marginally more quiet than they've been so far.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #324 on: July 21, 2016, 11:00:39 AM »
Have asked my handler about making arrangements to use a computer lab for camp twice in the last two weeks.
Today is the last full day of class before camp and I just asked her for a third time.
Her response, "Ahhh, ok." Continues doing other shit.
F*ck em

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #325 on: July 21, 2016, 11:32:13 AM »
NEIS is a complete misnomer for what it is. There is absolutely nothing nice about NEIS. It's draconian nonsense! Who on Earth needs a day-by-day record of what I do during my days off? What possible use does anyone have for this information? On top of the blatant privacy invasion is an absolutely terrible user interface straight out of 1997. Not even good 1997 either, bad 1997. Every time I'm forced to use this "service", I die a little more inside. Thank whatever-deity that my co-teacher lets me just put "personal business" in the reason-for-day-off field. She also let me omit my 4-day trip to Jeju because it would be too complicated to put it in legitimately!

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« Reply #326 on: July 21, 2016, 11:49:13 AM »
I have just been told that today we will have a meeting regarding feedback for my open classes. Given the state of my relationship with my main CT I am an absolute mess waiting to hear once again how useless I am and how everything I do is wrong. Irritates me considering that I know I will get negative feedback and yet there are waiting lists of students for my summer camps (so how awful a teacher could I possibly be?).

Knotted stomach of dread.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #327 on: July 21, 2016, 11:56:10 AM »
My school is going to be under construction during summer vacation, so we're going to have a temporary office...in the cafeteria

Even though it's only going to be 6 days, I'm seriously, seriously dreading deskwarming. Probably I'll just sit outside and read all day or something.... so much for getting work done. I at least got permission to move my comfy desk chair to the caf, because there's NO way I'm sitting in the cafeteria chairs all day

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #328 on: July 21, 2016, 11:59:57 AM »
NEIS is a complete misnomer for what it is. There is absolutely nothing nice about NEIS. It's draconian nonsense! Who on Earth needs a day-by-day record of what I do during my days off? What possible use does anyone have for this information? On top of the blatant privacy invasion is an absolutely terrible user interface straight out of 1997. Not even good 1997 either, bad 1997. Every time I'm forced to use this "service", I die a little more inside. Thank whatever-deity that my co-teacher lets me just put "personal business" in the reason-for-day-off field. She also let me omit my 4-day trip to Jeju because it would be too complicated to put it in legitimately!

The beauty of Korea's lumping the entire rest of the world together is that merely sticking '외국' down can sometimes suffice. Or even better, if you're not sure whether you're even leaving the country, there's this wonderful place called '해외' that also encompasses Jeju.

Best regards, a fellow citizen of the Heyway Empire.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #329 on: July 21, 2016, 12:03:04 PM »
I have just been told that today we will have a meeting regarding feedback for my open classes. Given the state of my relationship with my main CT I am an absolute mess waiting to hear once again how useless I am and how everything I do is wrong. Irritates me considering that I know I will get negative feedback and yet there are waiting lists of students for my summer camps (so how awful a teacher could I possibly be?).

Knotted stomach of dread.

...therefore don't let it get to you.  There has to be some feedback.  Just nod and then forget about it.  A couple of years back I had a 'special' co-teacher who was hopeless at everything.  It was a case of 'the lights are on but no one is home' situation.  I just couldn't stomach conversation with her because she'd come out with things like 'wow, your English is really good'  :cry: I had to endure eight months of it, but feel stronger because of it.  I am sure your open class was great, so don't let some negative comments from someone whose opinion you don't value get to you.  Whenever I had bad times I would concentrate on my students as they always found a way to make me happy, which is essentially why we are here, to teach them.  You have full classes for summer camp, so that means a lot.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #330 on: July 21, 2016, 12:15:22 PM »
Why must there be references to all things Korean in the textbooks? Future tense with a vacation theme. Where will you go? What will you do?/I will X.

I will go to Busan by train. I will go to the Busan Sea festival and eat sushi (hoe).

I will go to Jeonju by bus. I will see the hanok village and eat bibimbap.

Don't the kids get enough crap about their own culture in EVERY OTHER class they have? The English class is the perfect place to introduce stuff that isn't Korean.

I learned a lot about French culture in my French classes. We didn't focus on Toronto shit, we learned about the language we were learning.   
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #331 on: July 21, 2016, 12:23:43 PM »
It's also a poor choice of context. Its one thing to not get into the nitty gritty of nuance with the students, but at least proof the books so they can lead by example with natural contexts!

The sixth grade book we use actually has one chapter where the videos get so deep into the Korean heritage stuff that they forgot to actually include any of the target language whatsoever.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #332 on: July 21, 2016, 12:39:46 PM »
Me: Did you order the materials for camp?

Ct: No. The rest of the students who are not taking ur class are taking TOEIC, and they don't need any materials.

Me: ???????

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #333 on: July 21, 2016, 12:40:28 PM »
Why must there be references to all things Korean in the textbooks? Future tense with a vacation theme. Where will you go? What will you do?/I will X.

I will go to Busan by train. I will go to the Busan Sea festival and eat sushi (hoe).
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I learned a lot about French culture in my French classes. We didn't focus on Toronto shit, we learned about the language we were learning.
To be fair, the train ride to Busan is so awesome that there's a movie coming out about it that I'm definitely planning on watching!

Also, I remember that when I was young(er) my French textbooks featured a group of four music playing aliens (Zip,Zap, Zop, and Zoup) who crash landed in a French speaking city. For three entire years, we followed their crazy French speaking shenanigans as they learned about their new home.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #334 on: July 21, 2016, 12:42:41 PM »
Why must there be references to all things Korean in the textbooks? Future tense with a vacation theme. Where will you go? What will you do?/I will X.

I will go to Busan by train. I will go to the Busan Sea festival and eat sushi (hoe).

I will go to Jeonju by bus. I will see the hanok village and eat bibimbap.

Don't the kids get enough crap about their own culture in EVERY OTHER class they have? The English class is the perfect place to introduce stuff that isn't Korean.

I learned a lot about French culture in my French classes. We didn't focus on Toronto shit, we learned about the language we were learning.

Are you using Daekyo? :laugh: "How do you say 'Hello' in Korean?" ... Don't you already know how to say that? "Do you know about 'hangwa'? It's a traditional korean cookie." ... :rolleyes:

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #335 on: July 21, 2016, 12:48:33 PM »
Even during the week..you can't escape the lack of etiquette in supermarkets here. So, the aisle is busy and jammed with carts. I move my out of the way so that this beetch can go(we were facing each other). And what does she do? She decides to take one of the samples and block the aisle with her cart and making me just wait for her to finish. You are welcome, beetch.  Damn...idiots.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #336 on: July 21, 2016, 12:49:17 PM »
Are you using Daekyo? :laugh: "How do you say 'Hello' in Korean?" ... Don't you already know how to say that? "Do you know about 'hangwa'? It's a traditional korean cookie." ... :rolleyes:

"We say ann yawng."

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #337 on: July 21, 2016, 12:54:07 PM »
Why must there be references to all things Korean in the textbooks? Future tense with a vacation theme. Where will you go? What will you do?/I will X.

I will go to Busan by train. I will go to the Busan Sea festival and eat sushi (hoe).

I will go to Jeonju by bus. I will see the hanok village and eat bibimbap.

Don't the kids get enough crap about their own culture in EVERY OTHER class they have? The English class is the perfect place to introduce stuff that isn't Korean.

I learned a lot about French culture in my French classes. We didn't focus on Toronto shit, we learned about the language we were learning.
For the "Help Yourself" lesson in 5th grade my co wanted to dedicate a class to learning about traditional Korean food. Managed to steer her away from that thankfully.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #338 on: July 21, 2016, 01:35:58 PM »
I hate people who don't listen.

I gave an exact and detailed list of exactly what I needed for camp including snacks, drinks and materials for all the students. Literally down to the exact flavor.

I do have some new mini-chalkboards though. Which I never asked for. But no chalk in the school or chalkboard erasers (all whiteboards here), And some files. Which I never asked for. And I somehow have to make 25 kids drink;
240 juice boxes (10 packs of 24 - which I never asked for),
16L of OJ (8 2Ls- I asked for 16 of them) and
24L of coke (I asked for half that) in a span of 10 days.

I don't hand out candy. Never have and never will. I have three massive boxes of candy. I don't do prizes.

I was told no budget for the market day I like to do at the end. Too expensive. It takes about 100k won per camp. We spent easily that much on all the shit I didn't ask for. I am so excessively pissed with this lady I am restraining myself from smashing her head against a desk.

But in the end, we did manage to get a 1000 won bag of chopsticks. That was possible. I had to steal the rest from all the teachers hidden stores throughout the school. Same for plastic spoons.

Edit: And with the last little bit of remaining budget we bought roll cakes for the office. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #339 on: July 21, 2016, 01:42:01 PM »
Are you using Daekyo? :laugh: "How do you say 'Hello' in Korean?" ... Don't you already know how to say that? "Do you know about 'hangwa'? It's a traditional korean cookie." ... :rolleyes:

"We say ann yawng."


Oh man. That book is so bad.

 

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