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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2720 on: November 24, 2016, 01:27:37 PM »
I really want a kid, because without one, my family name and line will die out after I die, which is kind of a dumb thing to be concerned about, but, yeah. I can't afford one, and don't think I'll ever be rich enough to afford a kid.

Gah quit reminding me of the reasons I want to have children! I'm the same. My family name is literally my dad, my uncle, and my cousin. My grandfather was the only male child of 12 to reach childbearing age and my last name is a very uncommon variant of a more common name. I do have a brother, and my cousin has one male child who's still a wee thing, but that's all we have in terms of traditional succession. My boyfriend already agreed that if we had children they could take my last name, though.

But I'm afraid I won't even be able to support myself, let alone a family. Plus the very real danger in the US of being forced out of the workplace as a mother.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2721 on: November 24, 2016, 01:45:34 PM »
I really want a kid, because without one, my family name and line will die out after I die, which is kind of a dumb thing to be concerned about, but, yeah. I can't afford one, and don't think I'll ever be rich enough to afford a kid.
I don't see where this is coming from.  Yes, it might be difficult to raise a child on a low income but it is still possible.  Ask all the single parents out there with low paying jobs.  They make it work.  There are so many things which people just don't need to raise a child but they buy it because either everyone else is doing it or because they've been told they need it when they really don't.  Raising a child doesn't have to be as expensive as everyone makes it out to be.  However, you do have to sacrifice a lot more than if you are raking in the big bucks. 
Maybe that's it?
As the youngest kid from a single parent home, let me just say that there is a difference between being able to afford a kid, and being able to get by. Being able to afford a kid means you provide them with food, shelter, clothing, shoes, and love, as soon as and every single time that they need it. It's really easy to find that that is not possible on every salary.
You are right.  There is a difference between being able to afford a child and being able to get by.  I think I didn't express myself very well in the last post.
What I was trying to say was that a lot of people who say they can't afford kids (but want them) can actually afford kids if they are willing to make some sacrifices.  Obviously, as you said there is a certain point where a person really can't afford to raise a child and just gets by with having a child.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2722 on: November 24, 2016, 01:51:39 PM »
I really want a kid, because without one, my family name and line will die out after I die, which is kind of a dumb thing to be concerned about, but, yeah. I can't afford one, and don't think I'll ever be rich enough to afford a kid.
I don't see where this is coming from.  Yes, it might be difficult to raise a child on a low income but it is still possible.  Ask all the single parents out there with low paying jobs.  They make it work.  There are so many things which people just don't need to raise a child but they buy it because either everyone else is doing it or because they've been told they need it when they really don't.  Raising a child doesn't have to be as expensive as everyone makes it out to be.  However, you do have to sacrifice a lot more than if you are raking in the big bucks. 
Maybe that's it?
As the youngest kid from a single parent home, let me just say that there is a difference between being able to afford a kid, and being able to get by. Being able to afford a kid means you provide them with food, shelter, clothing, shoes, and love, as soon as and every single time that they need it. It's really easy to find that that is not possible on every salary.

Yeah. Just because you can have a child if you don't have money, doesn't mean that it will be an enjoyable or easy experience. Ajahya nailed it.

A lot of people are using this as a cover for not actually wanting children though. It's much the same as the large number of Koreans that can't 'afford' to get married.

Meaning they can't get married in an expensive hall, buy a house straight off and then have kids right away. None of those things have much to do with actually getting married however. (I say that as a guy who has paid for three weddings to the same woman...)

It's not that most people can't afford children but that they can't afford children and the lifestyle they are accustomed to.

There's nothing actually wrong with doing this as I agree with people on the 'what you don't have kids and are married crowd' being one of the more annoying sub-groups of humanity.

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« Reply #2723 on: November 24, 2016, 01:57:56 PM »
I really want a kid, because without one, my family name and line will die out after I die, which is kind of a dumb thing to be concerned about, but, yeah. I can't afford one, and don't think I'll ever be rich enough to afford a kid.
I don't see where this is coming from.  Yes, it might be difficult to raise a child on a low income but it is still possible.  Ask all the single parents out there with low paying jobs.  They make it work.  There are so many things which people just don't need to raise a child but they buy it because either everyone else is doing it or because they've been told they need it when they really don't.  Raising a child doesn't have to be as expensive as everyone makes it out to be.  However, you do have to sacrifice a lot more than if you are raking in the big bucks. 
Maybe that's it?
As the youngest kid from a single parent home, let me just say that there is a difference between being able to afford a kid, and being able to get by. Being able to afford a kid means you provide them with food, shelter, clothing, shoes, and love, as soon as and every single time that they need it. It's really easy to find that that is not possible on every salary.

Yeah. Just because you can have a child if you don't have money, doesn't mean that it will be an enjoyable or easy experience. Ajahya nailed it.

A lot of people are using this as a cover for not actually wanting children though. It's much the same as the large number of Koreans that can't 'afford' to get married.

Meaning they can't get married in an expensive hall, buy a house straight off and then have kids right away. None of those things have much to do with actually getting married however. (I say that as a guy who has paid for three weddings to the same woman...)

It's not that most people can't afford children but that they can't afford children and the lifestyle they are accustomed to.

There's nothing actually wrong with doing this as I agree with people on the 'what you don't have kids and are married crowd' being one of the more annoying sub-groups of humanity.
Yes, I think this is it.  They aren't willing to sacrifice their lifestyle for kids ( or marriage). 

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« Reply #2724 on: November 24, 2016, 02:00:02 PM »
I really want a kid, because without one, my family name and line will die out after I die, which is kind of a dumb thing to be concerned about, but, yeah. I can't afford one, and don't think I'll ever be rich enough to afford a kid.

I don't want to raise kids and I feel I am too broke to have kids too.  I don't care about my last name but I really want my genes in the human gene pool.  It is the only true way we can leave an everlasting impact on this planet.

Edit: Additionally, if anyone ever needs a man juice donor send me a message.

I'm not sure this will make you feel better but, barring any extremely unlikely gene-mutations, all of your genes are already in the human gene pool. There's a vanishingly small probability that any of your genes are unique, and a comparably small chance that a unique gene would be beneficial to whoever held it. When messing around with any intricate system random changes skew towards having a negative impact rather than a positive one.

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« Reply #2725 on: November 24, 2016, 02:06:58 PM »
A lot of people are using this as a cover for not actually wanting children though. It's much the same as the large number of Koreans that can't 'afford' to get married.

Meaning they can't get married in an expensive hall, buy a house straight off and then have kids right away. None of those things have much to do with actually getting married however. (I say that as a guy who has paid for three weddings to the same woman...)

It's not that most people can't afford children but that they can't afford children and the lifestyle they are accustomed to.

There's nothing actually wrong with doing this as I agree with people on the 'what you don't have kids and are married crowd' being one of the more annoying sub-groups of humanity.
Yes, I think this is it.  They aren't willing to sacrifice their lifestyle for kids ( or marriage).
There are people (like me) who honestly do not want kids, especially if it means sacrificing their current lifestyle. But there are people who sincerely want kids, and are willing to sacrifice, but they don't want their kid to have to sacrifice, and they don't have the income to give a kid the life they want. I think that's closer to the situation.
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« Reply #2726 on: November 24, 2016, 02:46:03 PM »
Meaning they can't get married in an expensive hall, buy a house straight off and then have kids right away. None of those things have much to do with actually getting married however. (I say that as a guy who has paid for three weddings to the same woman...)
How does that work?

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« Reply #2727 on: November 24, 2016, 03:24:21 PM »
Meaning they can't get married in an expensive hall, buy a house straight off and then have kids right away. None of those things have much to do with actually getting married however. (I say that as a guy who has paid for three weddings to the same woman...)
How does that work?
Yeah, thats what I picked up on too. Do you guys just really like to renew your vows?

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2728 on: November 24, 2016, 03:25:51 PM »
Meaning they can't get married in an expensive hall, buy a house straight off and then have kids right away. None of those things have much to do with actually getting married however. (I say that as a guy who has paid for three weddings to the same woman...)
How does that work?
Yeah, thats what I picked up on too. Do you guys just really like to renew your vows?

First thought was that, second thought was that they keep getting divorced and then remarried.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2729 on: November 24, 2016, 03:29:17 PM »
Meaning they can't get married in an expensive hall, buy a house straight off and then have kids right away. None of those things have much to do with actually getting married however. (I say that as a guy who has paid for three weddings to the same woman...)
How does that work?
Yeah, thats what I picked up on too. Do you guys just really like to renew your vows?

First thought was that, second thought was that they keep getting divorced and then remarried.

There's no they. It's a woman that Loki88 has given wedding money to three times. He's not involved in the marriage. Oi vey, hahaha.

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« Reply #2730 on: November 24, 2016, 03:32:36 PM »
Meaning they can't get married in an expensive hall, buy a house straight off and then have kids right away. None of those things have much to do with actually getting married however. (I say that as a guy who has paid for three weddings to the same woman...)
How does that work?
Yeah, thats what I picked up on too. Do you guys just really like to renew your vows?

First thought was that, second thought was that they keep getting divorced and then remarried.

There's no they. It's a woman that Loki88 has given wedding money to three times. He's not involved in the marriage. Oi vey, hahaha.

I think he means he's paid for three weddings with the same woman. Possibly becuase they got married on paper, then in Korea, then in his home country. Which is what I'm currently doing lol. two out of three down,. Is that right Loki88?

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« Reply #2731 on: November 24, 2016, 03:34:23 PM »
So then 3 weddings to celebrate a single marriage?

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« Reply #2732 on: November 24, 2016, 03:35:19 PM »
Meaning they can't get married in an expensive hall, buy a house straight off and then have kids right away. None of those things have much to do with actually getting married however. (I say that as a guy who has paid for three weddings to the same woman...)
How does that work?
Yeah, thats what I picked up on too. Do you guys just really like to renew your vows?

First thought was that, second thought was that they keep getting divorced and then remarried.

There's no they. It's a woman that Loki88 has given wedding money to three times. He's not involved in the marriage. Oi vey, hahaha.

I think he means he's paid for three weddings with the same woman. Possibly becuase they got married on paper, then in Korea, then in his home country. Which is what I'm currently doing lol. two out of three down,. Is that right Loki88?

If that is what Loki meant, shame on him for writing "to." hahahahaa

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2733 on: November 24, 2016, 03:36:16 PM »
Meaning they can't get married in an expensive hall, buy a house straight off and then have kids right away. None of those things have much to do with actually getting married however. (I say that as a guy who has paid for three weddings to the same woman...)
How does that work?
Yeah, thats what I picked up on too. Do you guys just really like to renew your vows?

First thought was that, second thought was that they keep getting divorced and then remarried.

There's no they. It's a woman that Loki88 has given wedding money to three times. He's not involved in the marriage. Oi vey, hahaha.

I think he means he's paid for three weddings with the same woman. Possibly becuase they got married on paper, then in Korea, then in his home country. Which is what I'm currently doing lol. two out of three down,. Is that right Loki88?
I hope he answers soon, cuz now I'm really curious. Part of my is also hoping that it is some sort of a tv sitcom scenario.

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« Reply #2734 on: November 24, 2016, 04:17:45 PM »
Meaning they can't get married in an expensive hall, buy a house straight off and then have kids right away. None of those things have much to do with actually getting married however. (I say that as a guy who has paid for three weddings to the same woman...)
How does that work?
Yeah, thats what I picked up on too. Do you guys just really like to renew your vows?

First thought was that, second thought was that they keep getting divorced and then remarried.

There's no they. It's a woman that Loki88 has given wedding money to three times. He's not involved in the marriage. Oi vey, hahaha.

I think he means he's paid for three weddings with the same woman. Possibly becuase they got married on paper, then in Korea, then in his home country. Which is what I'm currently doing lol. two out of three down,. Is that right Loki88?

Lol nah, definitely what CO2 said. She can't keep anything together but I just can't help it, I want to see her happy.

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Exactly what whatgook said. We finished them all up like 5 years ago (maybe more now). But yeah, I paid for the wedding back home and then plane tickets for my family to come here. Plus a quick paper signing civil ceremony. Also, whatgook for future reference this is a great way to get people wound up. Ah, the looks on peoples faces. Priceless.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2735 on: November 24, 2016, 06:46:30 PM »
What the ****, so it's common practice for them to re-use food served to other customers?

I never really ate out very much to begin with, but now...
Check this out:

This chef openly admits to it, yet they still gave him TWO Michelin Stars!

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We don't throw away leftover ingredients because I'm always in the kitchen and tightly control the use, so my cooks surely get a lot of stress. But we try to use the ingredients efficiently...I can reduce costs

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/culture/2016/11/203_218880.html
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« Reply #2736 on: November 24, 2016, 07:14:30 PM »
What the ****, so it's common practice for them to re-use food served to other customers?

I never really ate out very much to begin with, but now...
Check this out:

This chef openly admits to it, yet they still gave him TWO Michelin Stars!

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We don't throw away leftover ingredients because I'm always in the kitchen and tightly control the use, so my cooks surely get a lot of stress. But we try to use the ingredients efficiently...I can reduce costs

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/culture/2016/11/203_218880.html

What's the Michelin exchange rate between the won and the euro?

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2737 on: November 24, 2016, 08:15:10 PM »
What the ****, so it's common practice for them to re-use food served to other customers?

I never really ate out very much to begin with, but now...
Check this out:

This chef openly admits to it, yet they still gave him TWO Michelin Stars!

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We don't throw away leftover ingredients because I'm always in the kitchen and tightly control the use, so my cooks surely get a lot of stress. But we try to use the ingredients efficiently...I can reduce costs

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/culture/2016/11/203_218880.html

You totally misquoted him.

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"We don't throw away leftover ingredients because I'm always in the kitchen and tightly control the use, so my cooks surely get a lot of stress. But we try to use the ingredients efficiently. I became meticulous with accounting from my previous experience at brand-owned restaurants. Since I have built a network where I can buy high-quality ingredients at lower prices, I can reduce costs," he said.

You have no idea what he does with the leftover ingredients. But to assume he throws them back into the plates of proceeding customers is just that, an assumption.

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« Reply #2738 on: November 24, 2016, 08:37:37 PM »
CO2,

Not sure how or why you think I misquoted him.

I copied and pasted the quote, then reduced the length of the quote with a triple-dot glyph for relevance.  Furthermore, I then added a hyper-link of the actual article.

If I had been trying to manipulate a quote, why on earth would I attach a link to the article?

Go stuff yourself!

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« Reply #2739 on: November 24, 2016, 09:37:46 PM »
CO2,

Not sure how or why you think I misquoted him.

I copied and pasted the quote, then reduced the length of the quote with a triple-dot glyph for relevance.  Furthermore, I then added a hyper-link of the actual article.

If I had been trying to manipulate a quote, why on earth would I attach a link to the article?

Go stuff yourself!

You made it sound the reduction of costs was attributed to the not throwing away of "leftover ingredients" (leftover ingredients has no meaning either, what is that? Food from a customer's plate? Lettuce from yesterday? You make 2L of hollandaise sauce and only use 1.5L? Who knows??)

The reduction of costs is due to

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I became meticulous with accounting from my previous experience at brand-owned restaurants. Since I have built a network where I can buy high-quality ingredients at lower prices, I can reduce costs

You omitted two important sentences regarding the reduction of costs to weave a narrative.

Does he recycle food from customer's plates and use it again? Maybe. I have no idea what happens in his kitchen, nor any kitchen. But this quote you gave us, no, the article you shared, prove nothing.