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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #2680 on: November 22, 2016, 02:09:26 PM »
Yeah, to add to the never-ending debate on personal preference, Korean food is just not my jam.

Either it's fried without any seasoning whatsoever, thus defeating the purpose of fried food or it's stuff that's universally good anywhere but still not exceptional here (marinated meat, stir-fried noodles) or it's just whole fish or some sort of inedible pork or beef or who knows what plopped in some gochujang slurry. Oh and gotta love those roadside weeds that are cooked beyond recognition. No thanks.

I'm totally with you on that. A lot of the food here is really mediocre, at best. Bulgogi is the biggest offender. It's just a sugar and soy sauce marinade on really low quality, thinly sliced meat. Most of the time, bulgogi is junk. Like, below most Korean BBQ in terms of quality. And the fact that there are infinite variations of actual culinary dishes that are just variations of the 'gochujang slurry' that all basically taste the same is pretty disappointing. The biggest killer is lack of variety.

Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:

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« Reply #2681 on: November 22, 2016, 02:33:13 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

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« Reply #2682 on: November 22, 2016, 02:39:00 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

I had shabu-shabu once and I looooove it

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« Reply #2683 on: November 22, 2016, 02:49:05 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:
Like what?  Intestinal cramping, diarrhea, explosive bowels, bloody stool? ;)

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« Reply #2684 on: November 22, 2016, 02:52:08 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

Ahh okay I forgot about shabu-shabu, thanks. And it's not really about picky eating, it's just most of what I've come across is spicy soup with mussel shells and no discernible flavor or noodles with sweet sauce or chicken parts in sweet sauce or or or. I'm just not very jazzed to eat most Korean foods.  Which is why the only thing I could get excited about on your list is Japanese...

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« Reply #2685 on: November 22, 2016, 02:56:01 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:

My dad has come to Korea for a week for the last three years.  You'd be surprised how showing someone else around makes you realise there are interesting things to do, that maybe you take for granted.  Admittedly, I live rurally about two hours from Seoul so there is more countryside and coast to see. 

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« Reply #2686 on: November 22, 2016, 02:56:37 PM »
I must be one of the few who likes that the meat is still on the bone (in stews or whatever).

Except for fish bones. Those are annoying. If it's grilled or fried (not in a soup) then I don't mind as much but fish bones in general are irksome.

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« Reply #2687 on: November 22, 2016, 03:00:53 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

Ahh okay I forgot about shabu-shabu, thanks. And it's not really about picky eating, it's just most of what I've come across is spicy soup with mussel shells and no discernible flavor or noodles with sweet sauce or chicken parts in sweet sauce or or or. I'm just not very jazzed to eat most Korean foods.  Which is why the only thing I could get excited about on your list is Japanese...

To be fair you admitted you dont eat out a lot because you aren't interested but because you aren't interested you might be missing out on some great dishes if that makes sense.
 :azn:

One thing you could do is ask your Korean friends, or Korean co workers for recommendations. Food and restaurants. Explain your preferences and I am sure they can come up with something or Just check naver blogs.

I've found some great things that way.

and not having a go at you, just mean this in general....I feel like so many GET/NETs here judge Korean food by the food they eat at school  :blank: Which is always going to be a bit crappy.


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« Reply #2688 on: November 22, 2016, 03:09:08 PM »
...they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:
Like what?  Intestinal cramping, diarrhea, explosive bowels, bloody stool? ;)
:laugh:    I've been here for a while, I eat at new places whenever I can, and have never experienced any of that, thankfully!!
   (And if you're getting explosive bowels and bloody stools after eating jeon, then you're doing something seriously wrong! :huh:)

Anyway, it might be that I was brought up on some seriously... lackluster continental fare, but while food here can certainly be hit or miss -- I definitely won't argue that it's grande cuisine -- but I do enjoy a lot of it.
    People can choose how they approach things, and often that mindset will determine what they get out of the experience. Food is definitely one of those things!  :smiley:
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« Reply #2689 on: November 22, 2016, 03:10:11 PM »
I hate when I can clearly see how infrequently they clean the bathrooms at my school.

There has been a spray of piss all down the back of the only "western style" toilet in the bathroom near me for over a week. I have seen the "cleaning" lady go in there many times to change the trashes, but her bucket full of empty water bottles and dry rags is just for looks. She has not lifted a finger to clean the toilets or sinks. She leaves the pee covered toilet completely alone. Not sure she even checks the state of the toilets. HOW is this acceptable?

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« Reply #2690 on: November 22, 2016, 03:12:31 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

I had shabu-shabu once and I looooove it

Gamjatang is one of my favorite foods ever. Shabu shabu, dalkgalbi, chapchae, pajeon etc. are also awesome.

Near my school is this awesome lil mom and pop place that does smoked pork bulgogi-ish (sans horrendous amount of sweet sauce). I can't recall the exact name of the dish but it's literally one of the best things I've eaten in Seoul.

It took a lot of experimenting but there are a ton of little restaurants that are amazing but it took me awhile to go through all the restaurants nearby and sort wheat from chaff.

Oh and bossam. Bossam is amazing.

I will agree with whoever said samgyetang is nasty. That is one that I can't stand. (Though I'm not a big fan of the 'clear' soups in general.)

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« Reply #2691 on: November 22, 2016, 03:13:10 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

Ahh okay I forgot about shabu-shabu, thanks. And it's not really about picky eating, it's just most of what I've come across is spicy soup with mussel shells and no discernible flavor or noodles with sweet sauce or chicken parts in sweet sauce or or or. I'm just not very jazzed to eat most Korean foods.  Which is why the only thing I could get excited about on your list is Japanese...

To be fair you admitted you dont eat out a lot because you aren't interested but because you aren't interested you might be missing out on some great dishes if that makes sense.
 :azn:

One thing you could do is ask your Korean friends, or Korean co workers for recommendations. Food and restaurants. Explain your preferences and I am sure they can come up with something or Just check naver blogs.

I've found some great things that way.

and not having a go at you, just mean this in general....I feel like so many GET/NETs here judge Korean food by the food they eat at school  :blank: Which is always going to be a bit crappy.

A very good point. Basic school lunches when I was a student were generally always quite subpar. But I still kinda miss those hexagonal fiesta pizzas even though I know they're probably only vaguely more nutritious than cardboard.

As for Korean school lunches... I think I've been lucky that mine have generally been decent if not good (it's never been slop), but gamjatang in a school cafeteria is a far cry from gamjatang at a proper restaurant.

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« Reply #2692 on: November 22, 2016, 03:28:56 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

yeh fussy people are the worst. big, overgrown children. The only people worse than them are fat, fussy people, who whine about the local food and so go to macdonalds. Awful slime

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« Reply #2693 on: November 22, 2016, 06:26:58 PM »
Yeah honestly I have some friends coming to visit in the next couple months and I don't even know what I'm going to show them. I so rarely eat out because it's crap which means I've got one BBQ experience and maybe a trip to the bulgogi tents and then it's like "So I make some great hummus..." after that.  :sad:
Jimddak, Gamjatang, pajeon/hobakjeon/haemuljeon, shabu-shabu etc...

There's plenty of stuff to try out, and a lot of it isn't so shocking to Western sensibilities.

Then again, most of the folk I know aren't super picky eaters. I always pity the folk who are: by telling themselves that everything is disgusting, they're missing out on so many awesome experiences!  :undecided:

I had shabu-shabu once and I looooove it

Gamjatang is one of my favorite foods ever. Shabu shabu, dalkgalbi, chapchae, pajeon etc. are also awesome.

Near my school is this awesome lil mom and pop place that does smoked pork bulgogi-ish (sans horrendous amount of sweet sauce). I can't recall the exact name of the dish but it's literally one of the best things I've eaten in Seoul.

It took a lot of experimenting but there are a ton of little restaurants that are amazing but it took me awhile to go through all the restaurants nearby and sort wheat from chaff.

Oh and bossam. Bossam is amazing.

I will agree with whoever said samgyetang is nasty. That is one that I can't stand. (Though I'm not a big fan of the 'clear' soups in general.)

Came here to say, Gamjatang <3  :-* :-* :-*
One of the few things I genuinely miss since I left Korea

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« Reply #2694 on: November 22, 2016, 06:33:47 PM »
yeh fussy people are the worst. big, overgrown children. The only people worse than them are fat, fussy people, who whine about the local food and so go to macdonalds. Awful slime
Well, I have always been a picky eater, so it's not like I am being unduly harsh with regards to Korean food.

That said, it's hard to believe that anyone would care about what another person chooses to eat or not eat.

I mean, it's not like it effects you in any way, shape, or form.  Why care?

As far as food here goes, I have mentioned this before, but the major issues with Korean "cuisine" served in restaurants is the lack of cleanliness/food sanitation, the lack of education and awareness with regards to food handling, and the lack of government oversight, i.e. food handling permits, inspections, etc.

I'm very surprised that it doesn't concern anyone when they use the same contaminated scissors that cut the raw meat (chicken, pork) to cut the cooked meat?

That's dangerous and dumb.

It would be nice if more places had tables and chairs, so one wouldn't have to sit on the ground, although I appreciate the "ambiance" it can create for visitors to Korea.

Hopefully, most are already very aware of the practice of recycling food in restaurants.  Some don't have a problem with it, like they don't mind 5 people sharing 1 bowl of soup.

Sorry, but that is more than a little disgusting.

If they would do away with the "free" side dishes, the practice of recycling food would greatly diminish.

As others have mentioned, Korea's "culinary" history is truly quite short.  Give them a couple hundred more years, and they will have all the kinks worked out.

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« Reply #2695 on: November 22, 2016, 07:51:45 PM »
I'm British and even I think the food here is shit, that must be saying something.

Just how dare you Jack.  The cheek of the Roxby.  Us Brits are all over the good food.  Cornish pasties and fish and chips, and pies.  Oh, the pies.  Did you eat all the pies Jack?  Is that it?


I've become sooooo defensive about British food since living here. I will sing the praises of every single British dish to any Korean that dare tell me our food is bad. Even if, and sometimes especially if, I think that food is bad myself.

 :laugh: :laugh: This reminds me...

I met a Korean guy who lived abroad in England for most of his uni experience. He came back hating the food, but then went on to say that England had achieved nothing in any area of history or culture.

According to him, the UK had done nothing of note in the world of music, art, education, literature, pop culture... nothing. He told me the UK has excelled at nothing.

I wanted to ask him if that's the case, why are your parents spending their life savings to send you there for education?

Oh and another bit of cultural wisdom from him, Busan deserves the title of "City of Light" more than any other country in the world.

Korea's favourite passtimes:

Watch Tv - Invented by a UK man John Logie Baird.
 
Use a computer - has its origins in the "Difference Engine" developed by Charles Babbage, a man from the UK, and the mpdern computer was fathered by Alan Turing anothe UK man.

Surf the internet - Tim Berners-Lee, guess where he comes from?

Watching girls in mini skirts - Made popular (and named) by Mary Quant (UK lass) in the 1960s

Basically, The UK invented the Korean idea of relaxation (minus the soju).  What more does the guy want?

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« Reply #2696 on: November 23, 2016, 08:02:00 AM »
yeh fussy people are the worst. big, overgrown children. The only people worse than them are fat, fussy people, who whine about the local food and so go to macdonalds. Awful slime
Well, I have always been a picky eater, so it's not like I am being unduly harsh with regards to Korean food.

That said, it's hard to believe that anyone would care about what another person chooses to eat or not eat.

I mean, it's not like it effects you in any way, shape, or form.  Why care?

As far as food here goes, I have mentioned this before, but the major issues with Korean "cuisine" served in restaurants is the lack of cleanliness/food sanitation, the lack of education and awareness with regards to food handling, and the lack of government oversight, i.e. food handling permits, inspections, etc.

I'm very surprised that it doesn't concern anyone when they use the same contaminated scissors that cut the raw meat (chicken, pork) to cut the cooked meat?

That's dangerous and dumb.

It would be nice if more places had tables and chairs, so one wouldn't have to sit on the ground, although I appreciate the "ambiance" it can create for visitors to Korea.

Hopefully, most are already very aware of the practice of recycling food in restaurants.  Some don't have a problem with it, like they don't mind 5 people sharing 1 bowl of soup.

Sorry, but that is more than a little disgusting.

If they would do away with the "free" side dishes, the practice of recycling food would greatly diminish.

As others have mentioned, Korea's "culinary" history is truly quite short.  Give them a couple hundred more years, and they will have all the kinks worked out.

They recycle food here?? What the ****??

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« Reply #2697 on: November 23, 2016, 08:16:13 AM »
Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment, and ok for you.


Seriously though, the way it works for people who don't know, If you don't eat all your side dishes, then they just take them away and top them up, and use them for the next person.

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« Reply #2698 on: November 23, 2016, 08:19:42 AM »
Eat recycled food. It's good for the environment, and ok for you.


Seriously though, the way it works for people who don't know, If you don't eat all your side dishes, then they just take them away and top them up, and use them for the next person.

So if someone with a cold is eating from a side dish of whatever, and they finish, and then the restaurant goes and tops it off and gives it to me, you're telling me it's okay for me? Have you lost your mind?

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« Reply #2699 on: November 23, 2016, 08:27:07 AM »
No, I haven't lost my mind.  At least, I don't think so ;)

IT is one of the major reasons why we don't really dine out here.

It used to be blatant, but these days they are very discrete.

Same thing happens with unfinished cocktails, which get dumped into a bucket, later to be mixed with other stuff and given out as "special" drinks.

It's DANGEROUS!