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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1780 on: October 19, 2016, 01:37:23 PM »
I had a meeting with the principal last night because I was just so upset by boss cot's treatment of me. She was very nice and understanding. She suggested having a meeting with the three of us, but that would definitely end up making me cry, so our temporary solution (unless boss cot starts shit again) is that I will only communicate with her on cool messenger. No more going to her desk and asking her feelings or opinions. Cool messenger only. The hope is that in typing out her ideas/opinions she might have to communicate more clearly.

The principal also expressed great concern about why I'm so tired, told me I should pray to God for strength, and gave me a basin to soak my feet in warm water to help me sleep at night.

Bout to type up my message to boss cot and then get the hell out of here because the cold that was biding its time has finally come out in full force and I can barely stand without stumbling whoo

Why would you cry? I don't get this. I saw one of the female teachers crying her eyes out yday and everyone ignored her. This is the real world. Not having a go but the last time I cried was when I stubbed my toe on the kitchen table and spilled my last can of tomato soup and I lost all faith in humanity.
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« Reply #1781 on: October 19, 2016, 01:37:24 PM »
I've been here for nearly three years and have Googled it so many times I've lost count, but...

I still don't understand Apples to Apples  :sad:

Come to think of it, that Mafia game too!   8)

a round of Apples to Apples is basically like a multiple choice question, but where each team gets to anonymously submit a possible answer to the choosing team, but the "right" answer isn't objective; It's just the answer the choosing team liked the most, and the team that submitted that answer gets the point for that round. The choosing team is then rotated from round to round. Dunno if that explanation was any better than the internet.

Mafia:
Look, the internet. I think I made a powerpoint on the rules once that  I could try to dredge it up for you~

I suppose I understand the games but it's more trying to get my head around how they would work here and how the nuances of the games could be explained to the students.

Maybe oglop and eggieguffer can chime in and tell us how they would set up, explain and play them without a CT or any Korean translation, using only mimes and gestures  :wink:

do you know how to play Cards Against Humanity? Apples to Apples is basically the same thing.

i would not attempt apples to apples with elem students though. back in my hagwon days i used to do it occasionally with middle and high school students as something different.

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« Reply #1782 on: October 19, 2016, 01:45:46 PM »
As for Mafia, most of my students know it (and can explain it quickly to the few that don't know). I actually just finished up playing a modified version of it with my 2nd grade middle schoolers that required students to ask each other questions in the "daytime" part of the game to find the mafia members.

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« Reply #1783 on: October 19, 2016, 01:46:54 PM »
I've been here for nearly three years and have Googled it so many times I've lost count, but...

I still don't understand Apples to Apples  :sad:

Come to think of it, that Mafia game too!   8)

a round of Apples to Apples is basically like a multiple choice question, but where each team gets to anonymously submit a possible answer to the choosing team, but the "right" answer isn't objective; It's just the answer the choosing team liked the most, and the team that submitted that answer gets the point for that round. The choosing team is then rotated from round to round. Dunno if that explanation was any better than the internet.

Mafia:
Look, the internet. I think I made a powerpoint on the rules once that  I could try to dredge it up for you~

I suppose I understand the games but it's more trying to get my head around how they would work here and how the nuances of the games could be explained to the students.

Maybe oglop and eggieguffer can chime in and tell us how they would set up, explain and play them without a CT or any Korean translation, using only mimes and gestures  :wink:

do you know how to play Cards Against Humanity? Apples to Apples is basically the same thing.

i would not attempt apples to apples with elem students though. back in my hagwon days i used to do it occasionally with middle and high school students as something different.

I actually did Apples to Apples with my students for summer camp (elementary 3 and 4). We did one round together to illustrate and then they played by themselves while I watched and they had a blast. I didn't use the actual cards, though. We spent a period coming up with tons of words and names for different categories like fruits and veggies, cartoon characters, superheroes, countries, etc., and then a bunch of adjectives and made the cards before spending the next period playing with them so the words were at their level. If you try to use the actual cards by Apples to Apples then I agree that it's too difficult to do with elementary students but I think it's easily remedied by making your own cards.

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« Reply #1784 on: October 19, 2016, 01:55:27 PM »
wow, impressive, especially for 3rd and 4th grade. i was more worried about the actual game rules being a bit too difficult for them to understand, even if the rules were explained in korean. i guess kids are smarter than we sometimes give them credit for.

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« Reply #1785 on: October 19, 2016, 02:01:33 PM »
I've been here for nearly three years and have Googled it so many times I've lost count, but...

I still don't understand Apples to Apples  :sad:

Come to think of it, that Mafia game too!   8)

a round of Apples to Apples is basically like a multiple choice question, but where each team gets to anonymously submit a possible answer to the choosing team, but the "right" answer isn't objective; It's just the answer the choosing team liked the most, and the team that submitted that answer gets the point for that round. The choosing team is then rotated from round to round. Dunno if that explanation was any better than the internet.

Mafia:
Look, the internet. I think I made a powerpoint on the rules once that  I could try to dredge it up for you~

I suppose I understand the games but it's more trying to get my head around how they would work here and how the nuances of the games could be explained to the students.

Maybe oglop and eggieguffer can chime in and tell us how they would set up, explain and play them without a CT or any Korean translation, using only mimes and gestures  :wink:

Luckily Mafia is a fairly widespread game here, so you might be blessed with students who are already familiar with the game in their own language ("우리 말"). It would certainly be a chore to try to explain it to them in English in one fell swoop. It might work better just to play one round with them as practice before starting in earnest.

Korean students are less likely to be familiar with Apples to Apples, but I think the concept is fairly straightforward. Even so, a one-round demo is probably the way to go. I was able to incorporate it into one of my lessons, but I changed it slightly so that students don't submit a prefab answer; They talked within their group and then wrote out their own answers to submit. And the lesson before playing that I introduced a game with a similar format that helped to kind of ease them into the idea. ("Like an old man into a nice warm bath.")

That first "easing" lesson is represented by slides 1-28 on my "Apples to Worst Case Scenario" PPt. The second lesson is from slide 34 to slide 41, with the printable answer sheets on slides 43 or 44. How I played: Each round, first show the students ONLY the question e.g. "What should you do to survive an avalanche?" Give the students/teams a little time to formulate and write an answer. Collect them and then read them out loud yourself (bad handwriting/grammar may make it hard for other students to read it and be understood.) In an actual Apples to Apples game the teams would take turns picking the winning card, but I assign that job to my CoT to prevent favoritism between the teams. After each round I would then show them the actual recommended survival method just for fun.
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« Reply #1786 on: October 19, 2016, 02:04:33 PM »
I had a meeting with the principal last night because I was just so upset by boss cot's treatment of me. She was very nice and understanding. She suggested having a meeting with the three of us, but that would definitely end up making me cry, so our temporary solution (unless boss cot starts shit again) is that I will only communicate with her on cool messenger. No more going to her desk and asking her feelings or opinions. Cool messenger only. The hope is that in typing out her ideas/opinions she might have to communicate more clearly.

The principal also expressed great concern about why I'm so tired, told me I should pray to God for strength, and gave me a basin to soak my feet in warm water to help me sleep at night.

Bout to type up my message to boss cot and then get the hell out of here because the cold that was biding its time has finally come out in full force and I can barely stand without stumbling whoo

Why would you cry? I don't get this. I saw one of the female teachers crying her eyes out yday and everyone ignored her. This is the real world. Not having a go but the last time I cried was when I stubbed my toe on the kitchen table and spilled my last can of tomato soup and I lost all faith in humanity.

For me it was watching "The Notebook" a couple weeks ago.

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« Reply #1787 on: October 19, 2016, 02:10:32 PM »
wow, impressive, especially for 3rd and 4th grade. i was more worried about the actual game rules being a bit too difficult for them to understand, even if the rules were explained in korean. i guess kids are smarter than we sometimes give them credit for.

Yeah, the game itself is pretty straightforward but if you try to explain it (even in Korean, I agree) the kids have a harder time understanding it. My students sometimes get a little impatient when I do demos with them because they think they know how to but then I see their little faces do that "Aha" thing when they realise that they actually didn't know lol



Korean students are less likely to be familiar with Apples to Apples, but I think the concept is fairly straightforward. Even so, a one-round demo is probably the way to go. I was able to incorporate it into one of my lessons, but I changed it slightly so that students don't submit a prefab answer; They talked within their group and then wrote out their own answers to submit. And the lesson before playing that I introduced a game with a similar format that helped to kind of ease them into the idea. ("Like an old man into a nice warm bath.")

That first "easing" lesson is represented by slides 1-28 on my "Apples to Worst Case Scenario" PPt. The second lesson is from slide 34 to slide 41, with the printable answer sheets on slides 43 of 44. How I played: Each round, first show the students ONLY the question e.g. "What should you do to survive an avalanche?" Give the students/teams a little time to formulate and write an answer. Collect them and then read them out loud yourself (bad handwriting/grammar may make it hard for other students to read it and be understood.) In an actual Apples to Apples game the teams would take turns picking the winning card, but I assign that job to my CoT to prevent favoritism between the teams. After each round I would then show them the actual recommended survival method just for fun.

That's a really good idea! I just might steal it for winter camp.

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« Reply #1788 on: October 19, 2016, 02:23:01 PM »
I have so much work to do.

But all I want to do is sleep.

And I want to buy fairy or string-globe lights and it looks like I'll have to order them online, and that pisses me off for some reason. Why can't I ever find what I'm looking for in a local store? I hate waiting for the mail. I want instant gratification, damn it.

But with online shopping, you never have to actually see your money going away. You just send some numbers out into the ether, and a day later, you get a thing and it feels like it's free because a dude just comes and gives it to you. Or a fairy magically leaves it at your building. It's great.

Also you don't have to leave your house when you're all tired and biz.
On top of all that it's kind of like getting a present! Once I ordered nail polish that took forever to get here, and I'd almost forgotten about it so when I saw it in the mailbox it was a pleasant surprise.

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« Reply #1789 on: October 19, 2016, 02:34:14 PM »
I have so much work to do.

But all I want to do is sleep.

And I want to buy fairy or string-globe lights and it looks like I'll have to order them online, and that pisses me off for some reason. Why can't I ever find what I'm looking for in a local store? I hate waiting for the mail. I want instant gratification, damn it.

But with online shopping, you never have to actually see your money going away. You just send some numbers out into the ether, and a day later, you get a thing and it feels like it's free because a dude just comes and gives it to you. Or a fairy magically leaves it at your building. It's great.

Also you don't have to leave your house when you're all tired and biz.
On top of all that it's kind of like getting a present! Once I ordered nail polish that took forever to get here, and I'd almost forgotten about it so when I saw it in the mailbox it was a pleasant surprise.

I can't tell if you're really Chelsea or just kidding.

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« Reply #1790 on: October 19, 2016, 03:02:10 PM »
Maybe oglop and eggieguffer can chime in and tell us how they would set up, explain and play them without a CT or any Korean translation, using only mimes and gestures  :wink:
And then Klyuchevskaya (Aurata?) could inform us on how he would use traditional forms of corporal punishment to teach them the rules.  :huh:

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« Reply #1791 on: October 19, 2016, 03:13:48 PM »
I had a meeting with the principal last night because I was just so upset by boss cot's treatment of me. She was very nice and understanding. She suggested having a meeting with the three of us, but that would definitely end up making me cry, so our temporary solution (unless boss cot starts shit again) is that I will only communicate with her on cool messenger. No more going to her desk and asking her feelings or opinions. Cool messenger only. The hope is that in typing out her ideas/opinions she might have to communicate more clearly.

The principal also expressed great concern about why I'm so tired, told me I should pray to God for strength, and gave me a basin to soak my feet in warm water to help me sleep at night.

Bout to type up my message to boss cot and then get the hell out of here because the cold that was biding its time has finally come out in full force and I can barely stand without stumbling whoo

Why would you cry? I don't get this. I saw one of the female teachers crying her eyes out yday and everyone ignored her. This is the real world. Not having a go but the last time I cried was when I stubbed my toe on the kitchen table and spilled my last can of tomato soup and I lost all faith in humanity.

For me it was watching "The Notebook" a couple weeks ago.

I went back to Costco and there was no more pumpkin pie and then the garlic naan was gone. Sat in the aisle and just sobbed for a bit...

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« Reply #1792 on: October 19, 2016, 03:21:21 PM »
I had a meeting with the principal last night because I was just so upset by boss cot's treatment of me. She was very nice and understanding. She suggested having a meeting with the three of us, but that would definitely end up making me cry, so our temporary solution (unless boss cot starts shit again) is that I will only communicate with her on cool messenger. No more going to her desk and asking her feelings or opinions. Cool messenger only. The hope is that in typing out her ideas/opinions she might have to communicate more clearly.

The principal also expressed great concern about why I'm so tired, told me I should pray to God for strength, and gave me a basin to soak my feet in warm water to help me sleep at night.

Bout to type up my message to boss cot and then get the hell out of here because the cold that was biding its time has finally come out in full force and I can barely stand without stumbling whoo

Why would you cry? I don't get this. I saw one of the female teachers crying her eyes out yday and everyone ignored her. This is the real world. Not having a go but the last time I cried was when I stubbed my toe on the kitchen table and spilled my last can of tomato soup and I lost all faith in humanity.

For me it was watching "The Notebook" a couple weeks ago.

*said to a pumpkin pie*

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« Reply #1793 on: October 19, 2016, 03:24:41 PM »
I have so much work to do.

But all I want to do is sleep.

And I want to buy fairy or string-globe lights and it looks like I'll have to order them online, and that pisses me off for some reason. Why can't I ever find what I'm looking for in a local store? I hate waiting for the mail. I want instant gratification, damn it.

But with online shopping, you never have to actually see your money going away. You just send some numbers out into the ether, and a day later, you get a thing and it feels like it's free because a dude just comes and gives it to you. Or a fairy magically leaves it at your building. It's great.

Also you don't have to leave your house when you're all tired and biz.
On top of all that it's kind of like getting a present! Once I ordered nail polish that took forever to get here, and I'd almost forgotten about it so when I saw it in the mailbox it was a pleasant surprise.

I can't tell if you're really Chelsea or just kidding.
I'm really her...I don't know why you would think that. Sometimes it's the little things in life! Like getting a present that you bought for yourself. ;D
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« Reply #1794 on: October 19, 2016, 03:29:25 PM »
I had a meeting with the principal last night because I was just so upset by boss cot's treatment of me. She was very nice and understanding. She suggested having a meeting with the three of us, but that would definitely end up making me cry, so our temporary solution (unless boss cot starts shit again) is that I will only communicate with her on cool messenger. No more going to her desk and asking her feelings or opinions. Cool messenger only. The hope is that in typing out her ideas/opinions she might have to communicate more clearly.

The principal also expressed great concern about why I'm so tired, told me I should pray to God for strength, and gave me a basin to soak my feet in warm water to help me sleep at night.

Bout to type up my message to boss cot and then get the hell out of here because the cold that was biding its time has finally come out in full force and I can barely stand without stumbling whoo

Why would you cry? I don't get this. I saw one of the female teachers crying her eyes out yday and everyone ignored her. This is the real world. Not having a go but the last time I cried was when I stubbed my toe on the kitchen table and spilled my last can of tomato soup and I lost all faith in humanity.

For me it was watching "The Notebook" a couple weeks ago.

*said to a pumpkin pie*

I want all of you

forever

you and me

everyday

Now my eyes are welling up again. Oh gosh, why does this have to happen to me at work. People ignore me enough as it is :cry:

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« Reply #1795 on: October 19, 2016, 04:09:19 PM »
Last night I started playing Final Fantasy X for the first time. All was going well until...

The voice acting. I kind of hate it and wish there were an option to completely turn it off.  :lipsrsealed:

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« Reply #1796 on: October 19, 2016, 04:46:15 PM »
I had a meeting with the principal last night because I was just so upset by boss cot's treatment of me. She was very nice and understanding. She suggested having a meeting with the three of us, but that would definitely end up making me cry, so our temporary solution (unless boss cot starts shit again) is that I will only communicate with her on cool messenger. No more going to her desk and asking her feelings or opinions. Cool messenger only. The hope is that in typing out her ideas/opinions she might have to communicate more clearly.

The principal also expressed great concern about why I'm so tired, told me I should pray to God for strength, and gave me a basin to soak my feet in warm water to help me sleep at night.

Bout to type up my message to boss cot and then get the hell out of here because the cold that was biding its time has finally come out in full force and I can barely stand without stumbling whoo

Why would you cry? I don't get this. I saw one of the female teachers crying her eyes out yday and everyone ignored her. This is the real world. Not having a go but the last time I cried was when I stubbed my toe on the kitchen table and spilled my last can of tomato soup and I lost all faith in humanity.

I'm the kind of person who cries when they see a really good dog. This is literally me.


So it shouldn't be surprising if I think I would end up crying trying to have a meeting with my boss cot and principal when my boss cot has been demeaning me and treating me like a child almost since my first day on the job. Heck, I cried last night during the meeting with the principal.

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« Reply #1797 on: October 20, 2016, 07:38:31 AM »
It's that time of the year I get ridiculously anxious about my review and whether or not I can renew my contract! YAy.
I have had no problems in this school and no issues with my coteachers, they seem happy with me (aside from one KT who is an extrovert and really wants me to be the same way and I'm not. I pass on most socialisation. Not because I don't like them but because after a certain point in my day I just want to be alone because I'm exhausted by having to play the smiley happy foreigner). But just because they seem satisfied with me doesn't mean they are. I don't trust that they are going to come up with a bunch of problems they have with me that they have never communicated before.

On a somewhat related note I seem to be entering a depression. I am possibly in a near constant state of depression (I'm very high functioning, it makes absolutely no impact on my ability to work. I mostly just shut down socially) but it has crept up on me. I'm so tired and unmotivated. It's annoying.

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« Reply #1798 on: October 20, 2016, 08:01:50 AM »
It's that time of the year I get ridiculously anxious about my review and whether or not I can renew my contract! YAy.
I have had no problems in this school and no issues with my coteachers, they seem happy with me (aside from one KT who is an extrovert and really wants me to be the same way and I'm not. I pass on most socialisation. Not because I don't like them but because after a certain point in my day I just want to be alone because I'm exhausted by having to play the smiley happy foreigner). But just because they seem satisfied with me doesn't mean they are. I don't trust that they are going to come up with a bunch of problems they have with me that they have never communicated before.

On a somewhat related note I seem to be entering a depression. I am possibly in a near constant state of depression (I'm very high functioning, it makes absolutely no impact on my ability to work. I mostly just shut down socially) but it has crept up on me. I'm so tired and unmotivated. It's annoying.

I got you fam.


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« Reply #1799 on: October 20, 2016, 08:08:19 AM »
It's that time of the year I get ridiculously anxious about my review and whether or not I can renew my contract! YAy.
I have had no problems in this school and no issues with my coteachers, they seem happy with me (aside from one KT who is an extrovert and really wants me to be the same way and I'm not. I pass on most socialisation. Not because I don't like them but because after a certain point in my day I just want to be alone because I'm exhausted by having to play the smiley happy foreigner). But just because they seem satisfied with me doesn't mean they are. I don't trust that they are going to come up with a bunch of problems they have with me that they have never communicated before.

On a somewhat related note I seem to be entering a depression. I am possibly in a near constant state of depression (I'm very high functioning, it makes absolutely no impact on my ability to work. I mostly just shut down socially) but it has crept up on me. I'm so tired and unmotivated. It's annoying.

Oh jomi I could've written this. Huggie hugs forever.