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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1200 on: September 27, 2016, 02:53:47 PM »
^ALL THE FRIGGIN TIME

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« Reply #1201 on: September 27, 2016, 02:56:04 PM »
She'll also persist in saying numbers in Korean even though the chilluns can obviously count upwards of 5  :rolleyes: >:(

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« Reply #1202 on: September 27, 2016, 02:58:28 PM »
She'll also persist in saying numbers in Korean even though the chilluns can obviously count upwards of 5  :rolleyes: >:(

 :police: Okay, number 1?

 :-* 일번

 :police: Next, number 2?

 :-* 이번

 :police: *shudders inside* Now, number 3.

 :-* 삼번

WHY? THEY ARE IN GRADE 5. If they haven't learned 1, 2 and 3 by now, that's on them. CHRIST

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« Reply #1203 on: September 27, 2016, 03:02:41 PM »
Are our coTs twins?? I feel like they must be related.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1204 on: September 27, 2016, 03:34:21 PM »
I'm not sure why the obsession with ramen, either.

It is served in the Business Class Lounge at the airport, so people obviously don't view it as complete crap food.

More surprising, Korean passengers will actually steal the packages and smuggle them inside their carry-on luggage.

Or traveling with ramen and soju in your luggage because western food is unhealthy  :rolleyes:

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1205 on: September 27, 2016, 03:39:29 PM »
Lunch today was:

Mystery meat slop mixed with tentacles
Soup that tasted like a scoop of the ocean
Noodles (for the mystery meat slop)
Rice of course

I know I shouldn't complain about a pre-prepared hot meal but I am starting to wonder why I am paying almost $80 a month for this. Today I just ate a big ball of rice but would be loads happier with a yogurt and hard boiled egg whites or something. Going to start drafting my excuses now.

I don't know. Most of the food at schools here I feel ranges from mediocre to good. I've never had cafeteria or school food that was actually bad. The worst is when they give you something like 'spaghetti' that is literally just noodles with a ketchup-based 'sauce,' or when half the meal is fried.

I think a lot of people go a little far with their disparaging descriptions of school food. They are kind of fun to read, though. "Soup that tastes like a scoop of the ocean," was fun.

Nah, sometimes it really is that bad. It depends on your school. My first school had horrible lunches that left me hungry every afternoon. There was no variety and simply not enough food. Most of the time each side dish would only have on ingredient, usually some boiled leaf or soggy cucumber. We had the same two or three soups rotated out, usually without little to no meat in them. The fish were all bones. The only dependable thing was the rice.

But after that school, lunch got a lot better. These days I almost look forward to it. We have variety and sometimes more options than there is room on the plate. From what I've seen on Facebook, some of my friends have even better lunches than I do. But trust me, it can get bad. I don't know exactly what factors play into good vs bad school food, but some students are being fed slop and not even enough of it to keel them full :/

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1206 on: September 27, 2016, 03:40:00 PM »
I just had a 2nd grade MS class, which is the worst one in the whole school. A couple of them were literally running around screaming in class, chasing another student. In the end, I took one of their phones and took it back to the office with me after class. She came to ask for it and brought a translator friend, who apologized and asked for the phone back. Meanwhile, the screaming girl just stood there the whole time. When I asked why she was the one asking, not the girls whose phone I took, the girl started crying and sighing like she was being persecuted. For 25 minutes this went on. Why not just talk and get it over with! Eventually, another teacher in the office just told her to talk already, but she carried on for another 5ish minutes before saying sorry teacher.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1207 on: September 28, 2016, 08:44:38 AM »
Why are the kids practicing Rudolphe the Red Nosed Freaking Reindeer on those stupid recorder like things. It's still September! And it sounds terrible! STOP IT!   :evil:

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« Reply #1208 on: September 28, 2016, 10:09:10 AM »
Why are the kids practicing Rudolphe the Red Nosed Freaking Reindeer on those stupid recorder like things. It's still September! And it sounds terrible! STOP IT!   :evil:
I guess the idea is for them to sound not terrible by December.

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« Reply #1209 on: September 28, 2016, 10:18:07 AM »
We went to another teacher's open class the other day and I felt really bad for the foreign teacher. Her CT translated every little thing she said and then pretty much dominated the class, speaking Korean. I pointed out to my CT that doing this did not give the students time to process what they have heard in English and understand it, they only look to the CT to translate so they don't bother listening to the foreign teacher. I also pointed out that two teachers giving instructions and talking caused teacher talk time to increase and student talk time decreases.

She clearly doesn't care about that and  since then has begun translating everything I say. I have put up with it for 2 days now and I can no longer continue to allow it to happen.

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« Reply #1210 on: September 28, 2016, 10:53:03 AM »
My elem. coT: "What is the most important? For students to practice speaking English."

This same coT then proceeds to unnecessarily translate everything down to numbers lower than 5. Even the kids who can't read can count upwards of 5  :rolleyes: She also likes to blather on and often likes to have the "last pronunciation" on things.

Thankfully my middle school coTs are great or I'd have lost my mind long ago. They hop in when actually necessary for a translation issue and otherwise just let me do what I want, offering constructive criticism.

Worried about next year... might be nice if my elem. coT transferred (though the replacement could definitely be worse) and one middle coT is leaving due to pregnancy and the other is uncertain if she's staying another year. The year of change approaches  :cry:

Also, apparently the county decided they want to build a new apt building for all the teachers (which is kind of a big deal since this is an island and we don't really have those already) but this involves obliterating like 4 existing houses... I asked my coworkers where they'd live during construction. They laughed and said they didn't know... I honestly don't know how this is going to work. We don't even have a hotel or jimjjilbang here and there's no extra housing. It's hella rural. They were joking that those of us whose houses are unaffected are gonna have new roommates...  :undecided:

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1211 on: September 28, 2016, 12:14:07 PM »
Just found out that I'm a judge for some speech contest thing happening today. yay.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1212 on: September 28, 2016, 12:20:58 PM »
URG going back to talking about how rice and noodles are stupid and even stupider together, today my school served me noodles ON TOP of rice  :rolleyes:.  Those stupid slimy clear noodles.

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« Reply #1213 on: September 28, 2016, 12:54:44 PM »
It's so annoying when a coteacher insists on making me explain the rules of an activity or game in English to third and fourth grade students, when the language in the instructions isn't part of the target language, and it's a game they haven't played before. Like, instead of forcing the students to listen to a minute or two of unrelated vocabulary that they can't understand, why not just explain the game to them in Korean? Or let me say a bit in English, then some Korean, then some English, then some Korean?

Being told instructions for a game in English is not improving the language skills of beginner students. It just wastes time and intimidates them.

Agreed!

But I've never understood the general Waygook consensus of NO KOREAN TO BE SPOKEN IN MY CLASSROOM BY ANYONE AT ANY TIME!!!!!!!

Seems like madness to me  :-[

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1214 on: September 28, 2016, 12:58:02 PM »
She clearly doesn't care about that and  since then has begun translating everything I say. I have put up with it for 2 days now and I can no longer continue to allow it to happen.

So you're going to kill her?  :shocked:

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« Reply #1215 on: September 28, 2016, 01:04:49 PM »
It's so annoying when a coteacher insists on making me explain the rules of an activity or game in English to third and fourth grade students, when the language in the instructions isn't part of the target language, and it's a game they haven't played before. Like, instead of forcing the students to listen to a minute or two of unrelated vocabulary that they can't understand, why not just explain the game to them in Korean? Or let me say a bit in English, then some Korean, then some English, then some Korean?

Being told instructions for a game in English is not improving the language skills of beginner students. It just wastes time and intimidates them.

Agreed!

But I've never understood the general Waygook consensus of NO KOREAN TO BE SPOKEN IN MY CLASSROOM BY ANYONE AT ANY TIME!!!!!!!

Seems like madness to me  :-[

TEE doesn't work for beginners. Also, Korean is incredibly useful in the classroom, and without it you get ridiculous foreign teachers gesticulating wildly to a bunch of bemused students who can't quite figure out what he or she is trying to communicate. Then the game doesn't run smoothly, the students don't get the full effect of the activity, and it's generally just a waste of time.

Unless you're teaching students who already have a reasonably strong grasp of English, or unless you're teaching the same students for extended periods regularly in an immersion-like setting, using only English is a great way to waste time and make students frustrated in a classroom.

Absolutely agree.

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« Reply #1216 on: September 28, 2016, 01:14:42 PM »
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TEE doesn't work for beginners. Also, Korean is incredibly useful in the classroom, and without it you get ridiculous foreign teachers gesticulating wildly to a bunch of bemused students who can't quite figure out what he or she is trying to communicate. Then the game doesn't run smoothly, the students don't get the full effect of the activity, and it's generally just a waste of time.

Unless you're teaching students who already have a reasonably strong grasp of English, or unless you're teaching the same students for extended periods regularly in an immersion-like setting, using only English is a great way to waste time and make students frustrated in a classroom.

If you talk to a typical Korean teacher they'll assure you that at all levels they have some kids who can't understand a lick of English. Right up until they need to be taught only in Korean for the SAT tests. Hence TEE doesn't work at any level.  Which works out very nicely for them.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1217 on: September 28, 2016, 01:35:49 PM »
It's so annoying when a coteacher insists on making me explain the rules of an activity or game in English to third and fourth grade students, when the language in the instructions isn't part of the target language, and it's a game they haven't played before. Like, instead of forcing the students to listen to a minute or two of unrelated vocabulary that they can't understand, why not just explain the game to them in Korean? Or let me say a bit in English, then some Korean, then some English, then some Korean?

Being told instructions for a game in English is not improving the language skills of beginner students. It just wastes time and intimidates them.

I agree. I wish the co-teacher were only there to explain the games sometimes. It's hard to add any amount of complexity to the game when the act of explaining it frustrates the kids with unrelated vocabulary and some drop out before even giving it a chance, or they give it a chance and find themselves lost halfway through.

I feel the same for keeping things 100% English. I'm at a school with many high level students and although I'm currently blessed with coteachers with equally high levels of proficiency, if that's not the case they might lose the respect of the class and classroom management suffers. For co-teachers who can't speak a lick of English, they're doing nobody a favor by mangling the language and confusing the students. In most cases they'll probably have to resort to Korea at some point anyway. (You might wonder why those teachers are teaching the language in the first place.)

On the other hand, I've had a co-teacher who was almost entirely concerned with keeping her rapport with students (she was a contract teacher who had known these kids for 4 years) and, despite having decent speaking ability, threw the baby out with the bathwater completely and spoke almost entirely in Korean with these kids, while not doing much to assist with games either.  That was incredibly frustrating.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1218 on: September 28, 2016, 01:40:36 PM »
URG going back to talking about how rice and noodles are stupid and even stupider together, today my school served me noodles ON TOP of rice  :rolleyes:.  Those stupid slimy clear noodles.

Noodles and rice are "stupid."

Imagine literally believing that two of the most common foods on earth are stupid.


If we want to talk about a stupid food, let's talk about cupcakes. They're so bad for you, they taste awful, and they're borderline poison. There is zero reason for cupcakes to exist.

I admire your penchant for healthy foodstuffs but what cupcakes did you eat that tasted so horrid?? Store bought ones, sure, but have you never had a good (homemade/bakery made) one?? Ever??  :huh:  If they're made well, they just seem like mini cakes to me. Though I will say that I generally don't like the icing that's put on them. That usually gets scraped off.

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #1219 on: September 28, 2016, 01:49:45 PM »
I don't do the "no Korean allowed" thing. As long as they're practicing the target language then we're good. Oftentimes the higher level students are helping explain things to the lower level students as well.