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Offline Virginia

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Korean Golf Players in the US must pass English test to play
« on: August 29, 2008, 08:26:08 am »
Before you click on the link, this is a comment piece written by an American woman who is calling the new LPGA English policy "xenophobic", particularly because she feels that it is targeting the Korean Women's Golf Team.

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2008/08/27/xenophobia-rears-its-ugly-head-in-all-sorts-of-places/

I had to do research about the USA's "English Only" movement when I was in university and some of the comments that people made were horrific. Similar movements can be found around the world, including Australia (a country not known for its cultural sensitivity) and, on the French side, throughout Quebec.

Can you imagine if we all had to pass Korean tests in order to work here? (Ya... just add it to that stack of redundant paperwork over there... ahem)
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Re: Korean Golf Players in the US must pass English test to play
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2008, 09:42:00 am »
I can sort of understand the sentiment behind that, but the LPGA went about this totally the wrong way.  These women should be encouraged to learn English, not singled out like this.  It's not unreasonable to expect them to speak a little English, though: they're playing in the US, winning US money, and serving as faces for the league.  Plus, it's just polite to be able to do more than smile and wave. 

But, the line about how it's a sports entertainment world was crass.  First of all, it's women's golf.  Golf is a very popular sport played by Americans of both genders, but women's golf on TV isn't very popular.  Men's golf, on the other hand, I'd say has surpassed the NHL in terms of popularity. 

Secondly, I think they should be doing their best to get away from this "entertainment" talk.  Look at the biggest name in women's golf, Michelle Wie.  She doesn't participate in LPGA events because she stubbornly insists on trying to compete with the men, although she fails every time.  And each time she opens her mouth---or her father speaks for her---she says something stupid.  She's quickly become the Anna Kournikova of women's golf, and based off her example that's exactly why the LPGA shouldn't be trying to get more like her. 

Finally, plenty of athletes in American leagues didn't speak English when they got here, but that didn't prevent them from becoming huge names.  (Perhaps they'd be even more popular were they American, but that's another story).  Ichiro Suzuki from baseball, Yao Ming from basketball, to name but two, and the countless Europeans in the NHL.  From my own hometown, Mario Lemieux didnt' speak English when he came out of Quebec in 1984, but he went on to become one of the most popular sports figures in Pittsburgh.  He eventually became fluent in English, became the face of the Pittsburgh Penguins, and went on to buy the team. 

As for the "English Only" talk, I know the US doesn't have an official language, but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect people to make efforts to learn the language of their community.  I'm not of the "Speak English or Get Out" camp, but, for example, I support the stance taken by the Philly cheesesteak owner who put up a sign telling his customers to order in English, although plenty of people were offended by that.  Ask yourself if you'd be offended if Korean restaurants put up signs telling customers to order in Korean?   Actually, that'd be expected.  I cringe each time I see foreigners insisting on speaking English to clerks as if they understand. 

Also worth mentioning that the Korean basketball, volleyball, and baseball leagues have quotas on the number of foreigners who can play on each team.  If this LPGA story becomes news here, I wonder if people will call attention to the quotas in place here. 
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Re: Korean Golf Players in the US must pass English test to play
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2008, 09:05:13 am »
Most reasonable people agree this is ridiculous.
How much Spanish could David Beckham speak when he played for Madrid?
Having said that, golf is rubbish anyway, so who cares?  It's also an elite sport and the Korean women competing in it have probably had years in hagwons in Gangnam to prepare for this moment.  I suspect they'll secretly relish the prospect of finally putting their English education to use.

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Re: Korean Golf Players in the US must pass English test to play
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2008, 06:13:20 am »
CNN ran an interview yesterday with a Mexican golfer (in Spanish) who wondered if she had to learn French if she wanted to play the [insert name of French golf tournament here]...

It's an inane rule, but has brought a lot of attention to women's golf....
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Re: Korean Golf Players in the US must pass English test to play
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2008, 02:10:08 pm »

Similar movements can be found around the world, including Australia (a country not known for its cultural sensitivity) and, on the French side, throughout Quebec.


Just interested to know why you think Australia in particular isn't known for it's cultural sensitivity? Having lived there for the majority of my life, I'd say we are about as culturally sensitive as most countries, and more so than many. Considering 92% of the population is derived from overseas and a huge number are from non-english speaking countries, I think we all get along fairly well and are by and large sensitive to eachothers cultural differences.

On the topic of conversation though... having to learn a language just to play sport? I say old chap, it's just not Cricket! How unsporting, what?!?

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Re: Korean Golf Players in the US must pass English test to play
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2008, 10:44:04 am »
Sorry goulash, didn't mean it as a slight against your land of origin. Australia was one of the countries that I studied in university as having had numerous state-sponsored language laws, designed to maintain English as the ONLY official language. We also studied the US's "English Only" Movement. Racist laws in countries often end up reflecting poorly on the people from that nation, which is unfortunate... I know a South African who has had to live with it all his life too. ;)

My apologies again!
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Re: Korean Golf Players in the US must pass English test to play
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2008, 01:26:42 pm »
Haha... You mean you studied the "White Australian Policy" from the early '60's, in University. That was one of our finer moments for sure! (Note sarcasm ^^ ) An act which (in part) basically said you must be able to speak a "language of a European country" before you were let in. Of course, if the customs officials didn't like the look of you, they'd just get you to try to read some Hungarian or Estonian. Not sure how that made much sense when they wanted "English only" in Australia... but they seem to think it made sense at the time.

I'd hope we have a bit better reputation for cultural sensitivity since those days though.