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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2010, 02:46:20 pm »
The word scissors is always plural.  A "pair of scissors" is singular -- pair being the singular word. 

A quick google search resulted in this site.
http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/plural-of-pants-and-scissors.aspx

Interesting things to discuss among native speakers, but ultimately irrelevant when it comes to teaching a third grade EFL student the basics of counting ordinary objects.  Let them recognize scissors for what they are and worry about the technical aspects of the English language when they're a little older.  IMHO, I think EFL teachers (especially those of us with English degrees  :o :o) tend to get too caught up with technicalities. 

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #21 on: August 30, 2010, 07:32:32 am »
I have to second what danerdman1234 says strenuously. We're not teaching them to be grammarians but to communicate. I understand perfectly well what "I have nine scissors" means and so will anyone they ever speak to.

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #22 on: August 30, 2010, 01:49:32 pm »
QUESTION! Grammatical rule help!

So, here in our office there are 3 native speakers.   I think saying "I have 9 scissors" or "I have a scissors" sounds really weird, they  both (when independently questioned) said they would say it like that in normal conversation.

I can't find what is grammatically correct or incorrect... wikipedia says it can be either singular or plural, i.e.
I have a pair of scissors or I have scissors, however, I can't find a source that discusses the plural without the use of "pair."

I was lumping this in with uncountable words, but I can't find anything to back myself up. 

What are other's opinions on this? (other than that we all probably agree it was not a good idea to include this word in this chapter!)

Maybe this will help:
http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/plural-of-pants-and-scissors.aspx

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2010, 01:05:54 pm »
Here is a modified version of the pass the ball game.  It uses more of the vocabulary that the students learned last semester.


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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2010, 10:12:13 am »
Here is a powerpoint version of the guessing game that's in the book for period 2, just click each numbered slide to activate the countdown clock.

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2010, 11:45:48 am »
Does anybody have any clue how to do the "Let's Play" games for this section.  I am without a co-teacher and without an English guide.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2010, 01:50:09 pm »
Does anybody have any clue how to do the "Let's Play" games for this section.  I am without a co-teacher and without an English guide.  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

If you have no co-teacher I wouldn't try doing the games from the book.  It may be hard to explain how to play. 

For period 1 "Let's Play" the students have picture cards from the book.  They put them on their desk.  The teacher says, "I have pencils." The students reply, "How many pencils?"  The teacher answers, "I have 4 pencils." The students grab their picture of a pencil and form groups of 4.  That card is now out.  The teacher continues with all the other picture cards.  The students who have no cards win.

For period 2 "Let's play" the students make 10 cards with the numbers 1-10.  One card with one number written on it.  The cards are face down on the desk.  The teacher says, "How many pencils?"  Each student chooses a number card trying to guess the imaginary number in the teacher's mind?  Then the students say, "I have ___ pencils."  If it's the same number as the teacher's number, then they win.

For period 3 "Let's play" the teacher puts 9 flashcards on the board.  Behind each flashcard is a number.  The teacher asks, "Do you like oranges?"  The students reply, "Yes, I do." or "No, I don't." If they say "Yes, I do." Then the teacher asks, "How many oranges?"  The students reply, "I have ___ oranges."  The teacher checks behind the orange card and if the number is the same as the students' guess then they win.

The period 2 and 3 games were so boring that my co-teacher changed it to a Bingo game.  The students lay the 9 cards face up on their desk.  Behind each card they had written a random number.  The teacher asks, "How many pencils?"  The students find the pencil picture and turn it over.  They reply, "I have ___ pencils" using the number on the back of the card.  When they have 3 cards in a row turned over, they have Bingo.  You can play 3 or 4 rounds of this game.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2010, 02:02:17 pm »
Thankyou thankyou thankyou!
This was so helpful!  Now I will at least know what to do to tweak the games!
Much appreciated!

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2010, 02:57:22 pm »
The period 3 game doesn't work that well when all the kids have those cards in their books. They guess right every single time.

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2010, 03:22:50 pm »
 :) ;) :D ;D
Thank you to you wonderful sharers of ideas and information.
This is the most welcoming and encouraging thing a new teacher to Korea could have.

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2010, 03:25:55 pm »
Anyone got a good song to use instead of the 'chant' on the cd rom? It looks like it has been conceived on LSD.

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2010, 06:42:05 pm »
That translation of the games makes me glad I use stuff posted here or other things I make up.  If I were playing the games from the book my kids might hate me cos they sound terrible.

As far as the chant goes, my classes seemed to enjoy it. It's a little bit fast but add in some actions like counting with their fingers and they should be OK.

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #32 on: September 06, 2010, 03:49:24 pm »
Ok this might be a really stupid question but how do you play the bomb games? I d/l-d some to my usb thinking it was the same as a powerpoint and I would just have to click on each one.. and then nothing!! Im not the best with technology so Im sure its something very obvious! if anyone cud offer advice would be greatly appreciated :)

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #33 on: September 09, 2010, 12:58:41 pm »
I don't have a teching guide, and I'm really not 100% sure what I should be teaching each lesson. How the hell do you stretch out 2 or 3 pages to 40 mins? Even with the games and what not on here, i'm struggling to figure out how to fill all of my time. Thanks..

I really love this board though, it has been very helpful for this first time teacher.

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #34 on: September 09, 2010, 05:55:30 pm »
Hey Tayscaggs. The format of the lessons and what you're supposed to teach goes like this:
Class 1: Look and Listen, Listen and Repeat, Let's Play
Class 2: Look and Listen, Listen and Repeat, Let's Chant, Let's Play
Class 3: Look and Speak, Let's Sing, Let's Write
Class 4: Let's Role Play, Let's Review

You're right that there's no way any of those can take up 40 mins (except maybe class 4). I think I can usually get 25 minutes on average out of each day's textbook material and even that is with a lot of repetition and the game being stretched out to 12 minutes.

The best thing to do is to establish some sort of routine that you do every class. It will take up time and kids can learn a lot through repetition. For example, last semester I started every class with a song. I would use the same song for about 3 weeks (so each class saw it 6 times) before switching it. I used songs like "Hello, Goodbye" by the Beatles, "Itsy Bitsy Bikini" (co-teacher's choice). Then afterwards, I asked them questions. "How are you?" "How's the weather?" Stuff you can ask every day. Then I said, "What did you do yesterday/What will you do this weekend?" I walked up to every kid who put up their hand and gave them a little paper slip when they answered. That was the routine at the beginning of every class and it lasted about 8 min.

This semester, instead of a morning song, my CT has introduced tongue twisters to them. They get a new one each class that we practice and they glue it onto a sheet of paper. Then we have them say it again at the end of class individually to get a stamp.

I'm sure many people on this board have routines that they do in class. But with something like what I described + text book + 1 activity you get from here or somewhere else you should be fine for filling out 40 mins.

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2010, 12:05:56 pm »
Jehall is right. Routine is the key. My ct is always able to stretch the 2 pages in the book out to about 30min. We do a lot of "look at the picture on page__. What do you see? What do you think is happening? What is he holding?" Then we listen, repeat, chant, whatever and then ask "what was the dialogue about? What did so-n-so say?" etc. It reallly eats up time. Almost too much time. There are days we don't have time to play the game I've prepared (or taken from this site)  ;)

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2010, 01:17:29 pm »
Thanks for the help.

Yeah my experience so far has been a bit different then most people. I'm teaching all of my classes with little to no help with lesson planning, and not much guidence on what to do, and pretty much no co-teachers helping out.

It's actually been pretty good so far, and I'm enjoying being able to figure this all out for myself rather then being an english puppet. But definitely knowing the structure, even what pages of the lesson to teach each day has been very helpful to finally be told, ha.

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Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils REVIEW GAME
« Reply #37 on: September 14, 2010, 12:56:46 pm »
Attached is my lesson plan and review game for the last part of "I have two pencils".  It includes a warm-up activity, practice questions and a game that my students loved. 

ENJOY! :)


•   “FIND YOUR PEAR” game

Each student is given a card with one or more of the same fruit on it (ex. 4 apples or 3 melons).  They must not show anyone their card.

They are then to walk around the room and find the person who has the same card.  They do this by asking everyone they meet: “Do you like _____?” (name of their fruit)  If the student they ask does not have a card with the same fruit on it, they must reply “No, I don’t.”    If the person they meet has the same fruit, they must say “Yes, I do.”  S1 must then ask S2 “How many ____s?” (name of their fruit) to find out if that person has the same number of that fruit.  S2 then must say : "I have ____ (#) _______" (fruit name).  If the cards are pairs, both students must say : "Me too!"
The pair who find each other first, win.

Warning: students were so keen on winning that they rushed through the key expressions and said "yes/no" answers as well as "2 apples" instead of "i have ......".  I would suggest not mentionning a prize for the 3 first pairs of students until a round or two of the game has been done.

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« Last Edit: September 14, 2010, 01:00:25 pm by Teacha Monica »

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2011, 12:07:04 pm »
Because Mediafire is gone, I'm gonna upload my stuff here :]

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Re: Grade 3 Lesson 9 - I have two pencils
« Reply #39 on: April 14, 2011, 07:37:14 am »
Here is a lesson plan that anyone can use!  ;D