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Offline Virginia

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EPIK summer vacation dates
« on: October 26, 2006, 06:57:04 pm »
Ahhh, vacation time.... Just wanted to share some friendly, unofficial, personal suggestions.

It probably the touchiest subject of our contracts, and is sometimes open to interpretation. I can't think of any two people in JLP (or JCP or Regional or whatever) who seem to have the same situation. A lot depends on the relationship that you have with your school, other contract obligations (like supplementary classes and camps), precedents set by the native language teachers who came before you (and if they abused the system), and how open you are about where/when you are going (the least said, the better).

Remember, your vacation days do not include weekends and are meant to be taken consecutively (my school tried - and failed - to make my vacation days be 3 days here, 2 days here, 3 days here etc, throughout the summer so that they could get me to do extra things).

Do not book a vacation until you have sat with your co-teacher (and a calendar)  and verified when the exact vacation dates are and that you do not have extra classes or camps. Do not accept maybe for an answer when it comes to dates, act the "stupid foreigner" (Hmmm, I do not understand. I must be back on this date? etc) and be sure that everything is crystal clear before you begin booking trips.

Another thing to consider is that we do have a really sweet deal. If our schools really followed the contracts to the letter about vacations etc, we would end up with a lot less vacation days than we actually have.

Tips for negotiating in Korea:
1. Smile
2. Ask them to tell you when the best vacation dates are
3. Stand your ground, but don't be belligerant
4. Remember that "I do not understand" is your best friend
5. Cool it if things get too heated: It may take more than one meeting to sort it out
6. Keep it friendly
7. Don't tell them that you plan to leave for a month if you are only entitled to 2 weeks

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EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2011, 11:15:44 am »
Hi,
Just wondering what is the average time that students are out of school, when summer camps usually start, and the average date/time when EPIKers have their 8 day summer vacation time?
I will ask my co-teacher but I'll wait to June, I don't want to seem like I am counting down the days until vacation, which I am just a little bit ;) My fiance is coming to visit me and I would like to start planning some ideas in my head at least.
And if you could tell me the averages for winter vacation that would be nice too.
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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2011, 11:19:58 am »
The Summer vacation will begin around July 20th, but you will need to desk warm and attend summer camps. Chances are your real summer holidays will be two weeks in Augusat, most likely from the 15th to 26th.

Winter holidays can be anywhere from early jan, til the end of jan. just depends when your school plans their winter camps.

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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2011, 11:22:26 am »
I'm a middle school EPIK teacher and my last day of class is July 15th, my hubby's school is similar to mine but he is in elementary school. We're in Ulsan...other areas may be different. There is a summer camp after that for 3 weeks and then i think i have vacation :) So, we will probably take our vacation in the 3rd week of August if i had to guess. School starts back up the end of August around the 23-25th i beleive. Not too sure about winter break. Hope it helps :)
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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2011, 11:44:44 am »
That sounds right.  I am in Ulsan also. I cant use my two bonus weeks for renewing until after the 15th. Co-teacher showed me the letter where we could not use the summer vacation and bonus vaction together.

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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2011, 11:48:11 am »
After 2 and a half years I finally have a co-teacher who keeps me informed of everything I need to know.  I'm in Gyeongsang province, Middle School and summer vacation starts on 17th July (last day is Saturday 16th) and starts again on Monday 22nd. 

Summer camps aren't arranged until closer to the time but my school has always taken part in a county wide camp of about 3 days, usually at the beginning of August, and another smaller one of  2 or 3 days in our own school in the last week or so before we come back.  After I'd been here a year my co-teachers started to ask when I plan to have vacation so I can be accommodated as far as possible.  Usually the last two weeks of July are the best time to get an 8 day slot. 

Last day of next term is 22nd December.  We don't have any winter camps, but I've been given a schedule of small classes and one-to-ones for every day during the winter.  My contract starts in October so I get my extra 2 weeks in winter, giving me a whole month off then.  I either take it immediately terms over if I can get home for Christmas in time, or during January.  Even when I made a good case to my very pleasant Principal last year about not getting back for the strange week of school during February, I was not allowed to skip it and I've heard the same from lots of other colleagues too, so it's best to plan for a January vacation if it's going to be a long one. Term starts again in the first week of March.
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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2011, 11:50:44 am »
Our high school summer vacation is July 15 - Aug 21.

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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2011, 11:57:09 am »
Can we (informatlly) negotiate our way out of desk-warming with out school? Is it ultimately up to the principal and the vp whether we have to come in or not, or is it up to some EPIK bureaucrat?

I'm going to give it a try. 

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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2011, 11:59:17 am »
Hi,

What's the position with vacation days if you renew [EPIK]?

a. 2 weeks;
b. 8 days; or
c. both.

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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2011, 12:01:28 pm »
Hi,

What's the position with vacation days if you renew [EPIK]?

a. 2 weeks;
b. 8 days; or
c. both.

Cheers.

You get the 8 days, renewing or not. That is your vacation.  The two weeks is the bonus for renewing.

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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2011, 12:21:51 pm »
Hi,

What's the position with vacation days if you renew [EPIK]?

a. 2 weeks;
b. 8 days; or
c. both.

Cheers.

You get the 8 days, renewing or not. That is your vacation.  The two weeks is the bonus for renewing.


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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2011, 12:24:17 pm »
and don't forget that august 15th is a national holiday, so it shouldn't count in your vacation!
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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2011, 12:25:20 pm »
Hi,

What's the position with vacation days if you renew [EPIK]?

a. 2 weeks;
b. 8 days; or
c. both.

Cheers.

You get the 8 days, renewing or not. That is your vacation.  The two weeks is the bonus for renewing.


So then C.

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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2011, 12:26:51 pm »
It depends on your school if you have to come in or not. I am at a new school so I do not know what is going to happen. but at my other school, the principal let me off.I did not have to come in.

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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2011, 12:07:46 pm »
My vacation is from the 16th July to 16th August. I have to work at a camp for 2 weeks but I don't know when. Last year I found out early July :(

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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2011, 01:28:04 pm »
and don't forget that august 15th is a national holiday, so it shouldn't count in your vacation!

Actually, if you are renewing this doesn't matter because it is in the two calender weeks that you get off. They don't say 10 days but 2 calender weeks before your contract ends so you do not technically get the extra day if you are renewing.

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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2011, 01:30:11 pm »
I have a question about vacation. I went through EPIK in 2008. This is  my fourth year teaching. I re-newed my contract this year through the office of education. So do i get my 2 weeks of renewing and plus 8 days?

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Re: EPIK summer vacation dates
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2011, 01:44:50 pm »
If you don't have a school calendar, get one.  Vacation is always mid July to late August.  Camps are usually at the start or end....end in my case.  Have someone explain it.  If you do have a calendar already and you want to be specific.  Start with asking about the summer camps.  "Hey Choi Teacher, I am really keen on starting to plan for my camps early, when are they?"  As for how much vacation and how much desk warming., I can only guess.

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Vacation days.
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2011, 03:14:48 pm »
I just had a meeting with my co-teacher about Summer Vacation. He told me I'm able to have 5 days for holiday. I don't have my contract to hand, but I'm pretty sure in the contract it states I can have 8 days. I questioned my co-teacher about this and  the principal is apparantly counting Saturday and Sunday as my vacation days. At this stage I've just queried the decision as my contract is at home. However, I'm assuming this isn't normal... am I right? I'm working in elementary school and have a standard EPIK contract.

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Re: Vacation days.
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2011, 03:18:42 pm »
They are trying to pull one on you.  You have 8 working days in the summer.
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