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Offline NiceGook

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Re: Macron's feminist policies
« Reply #140 on: June 19, 2017, 06:09:52 PM »
The real question is why are you, a teacher, defending a teacher committing a sex crime (that rhymes with grape) against a 15yr old student?
"atteinte sexuelles" rhymes with grape?
My French is a bit rusty, but...  :huh:
The translation of the crime is "statutory rape"
Do we really have 2 TEACHERS defending the rape of a student by a teacher?!
What is wrong with people  :huh:
    It's closer to sexual abuse or assault. I lied: my French is actually still pretty okay.

    I think that most people here would normally have absolutely no issue with calling the lady out for something that was clearly a faux pas (more French!) if not an outright crime. Clearly, the lady did wrong.
    The problem here is that you come across as a bit of an argumentative tosser so people naturally want to argue with you. Folk would be far more willing to agree with others if they were, you know, more agreeable.  :smiley:

You want me to be more agreeable about someone defending a 40yr old teacher raping (or molesting or whatever semantics you want) a 15yr old student.

With that person being a teacher themself?

This shouldn't even be debateable. Especially not on a teachers forum. I'm not going to be nice to a teacher who defends this crime and no one on this forum should. I have no idea how this person has defended the rape of a student for like 2 or 3 pages and not even recieved a warning from a moderator. I know the TOS of this site tend to be enforced however any random mod feels but I have to imagine a teacher repeatedly defending the molestation of students probably isn't a great look for a teaching website.

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Re: Macron's feminist policies
« Reply #141 on: June 19, 2017, 07:21:15 PM »
    I think that most people here would normally have absolutely no issue with calling the lady out for something that was clearly a faux pas (more French!) if not an outright crime. Clearly, the lady did wrong.
    The problem here is that you come across as argumentative, so people will naturally want to argue with you. Folk would be far more willing to agree with others if they were, you know, more agreeable.  :smiley:
You want me to be more agreeable about someone defending a 40yr old teacher raping (or molesting or whatever semantics you want) a 15yr old student.

With that person being a teacher themself?

This shouldn't even be debateable. Especially not on a teachers forum. I'm not going to be nice to a teacher who defends this crime and no one on this forum should. I have no idea how this person has defended the rape of a student for like 2 or 3 pages and not even recieved a warning from a moderator. I know the TOS of this site tend to be enforced however any random mod feels but I have to imagine a teacher repeatedly defending the molestation of students probably isn't a great look for a teaching website.
Well... yeah.
A lot of the world's problems would evaporate if people were a bit more diplomatic in their disagreements.
People often tend to avoid agreeing with overly assertive stances, even if they feel the same way about. Especially when complicated issues are simplified to the point of reductio ad absurdum. Naunces are important. Semantics are important!

Also, nowhere does it state that having an unpleasant point of view is against the TOS.


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Re: Macron's feminist policies
« Reply #142 on: June 19, 2017, 07:43:34 PM »
    I think that most people here would normally have absolutely no issue with calling the lady out for something that was clearly a faux pas (more French!) if not an outright crime. Clearly, the lady did wrong.
    The problem here is that you come across as argumentative, so people will naturally want to argue with you. Folk would be far more willing to agree with others if they were, you know, more agreeable.  :smiley:
You want me to be more agreeable about someone defending a 40yr old teacher raping (or molesting or whatever semantics you want) a 15yr old student.

With that person being a teacher themself?

This shouldn't even be debateable. Especially not on a teachers forum. I'm not going to be nice to a teacher who defends this crime and no one on this forum should. I have no idea how this person has defended the rape of a student for like 2 or 3 pages and not even recieved a warning from a moderator. I know the TOS of this site tend to be enforced however any random mod feels but I have to imagine a teacher repeatedly defending the molestation of students probably isn't a great look for a teaching website.
Well... yeah.
A lot of the world's problems would evaporate if people were a bit more diplomatic in their disagreements.
People often tend to avoid agreeing with overly assertive stances, even if they feel the same way about. Especially when complicated issues are simplified to the point of reductio ad absurdum. Naunces are important. Semantics are important!

Also, nowhere does it state that having an unpleasant point of view is against the TOS.

I'm fairly certain defending a teacher molesting a student can be construed as breaking the TOS on this site considering the TOS are completely open to interpretation on "trolling". Unless this teaching site is just cool with having its members (who are the face of foreigners in Korea) defend the molestation of students by a teacher over and over.

Its also extremely odd you would tell me to be more tactful to this poster who has:

Made a thread with the sole intent to be a weird sexist

Insulted other members over and over in the most crude ways possible. Including telling one person they violate their own anus with a rubber glove filled with minced pork liver

And then topped it off by defending child molestation for the last 3 pages of the thread



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Re: Macron's feminist policies
« Reply #143 on: June 20, 2017, 12:02:52 AM »
Not a big fan of Macron or his wife. I don't care if you're 15, you know homewrecking is wrong.

Something ain't right in his head or hers.

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« Reply #144 on: June 20, 2017, 01:30:27 PM »
I'm fairly certain defending a teacher molesting a student can be construed as breaking the TOS on this site considering the TOS are completely open to interpretation on "trolling". Unless this teaching site is just cool with having its members (who are the face of foreigners in Korea) defend the molestation of students by a teacher over and over.

Its also extremely odd you would tell me to be more tactful to this poster who has:

Made a thread with the sole intent to be a weird sexist

Insulted other members over and over in the most crude ways possible. Including telling one person they violate their own anus with a rubber glove filled with minced pork liver

And then topped it off by defending child molestation for the last 3 pages of the thread
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Trolling is generally defined as making statements with the sole intention of inciting emotional responses, which I don't feel is the case here. I could be wrong, but that's not how I'm reading things.

And it's possible to strongly disagree with folk and still be tactful. I mean, just look at this conversation as an example. *pats self on back*
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« Reply #145 on: June 20, 2017, 02:25:12 PM »
Not a big fan of Macron or his wife. I don't care if you're 15, you know homewrecking is wrong.

Something ain't right in his head or hers.

Don't be so provincial. No one marries someone with a Maîtrise ès Lettres and expects them to be faithful.

This France not Kansas.

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« Reply #146 on: June 20, 2017, 02:36:36 PM »
Don't be so provincial. No one marries someone with a Maîtrise ès Lettres and expects them to be faithful.

This France not Kansas.

Children are involved. 

If you can't see how effed up everything they are, then you're in denial. Now he may be a fine president, but that kind of screwed up moral compass on someone who claims to be pure deserves extra scrutiny. No slip ups young man, you better deliver.

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« Reply #147 on: June 20, 2017, 02:43:00 PM »
Don't be so provincial. No one marries someone with a Maîtrise ès Lettres and expects them to be faithful.

This France not Kansas.

Children are involved. 

If you can't see how effed up everything they are, then you're in denial. Now he may be a fine president, but that kind of screwed up moral compass on someone who claims to be pure deserves extra scrutiny. No slip ups young man, you better deliver.

In that case, then hell yes, he had better be perfect.

Out of curiosity, could your refer me to the speech or text where Macron claimed to be "pure". Thanks.

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« Reply #148 on: June 20, 2017, 02:50:42 PM »
Don't be so provincial. No one marries someone with a Maîtrise ès Lettres and expects them to be faithful.

This France not Kansas.

Children are involved. 

If you can't see how effed up everything they are, then you're in denial. Now he may be a fine president, but that kind of screwed up moral compass on someone who claims to be pure deserves extra scrutiny. No slip ups young man, you better deliver.

It's been a long time since I've been 15, but if I was in that situation, I would have also been a victim.

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« Reply #149 on: June 20, 2017, 02:54:51 PM »
In that case, then hell yes, he had better be perfect.

Out of curiosity, could your refer me to the speech or text where Macron claimed to be "pure". Thanks.

His whole campaign was him not having the stench of the Socialists or the Republicans.

Unlike say, a Berlusconi, who doesn't really pretend not to be dirty, Macron made an attempt at that. Fine. But if you have that kind of past, I'm keeping my eye on you.

Seriously, that is some messed up whack shit.

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« Reply #150 on: June 20, 2017, 03:07:07 PM »
In that case, then hell yes, he had better be perfect.

Out of curiosity, could your refer me to the speech or text where Macron claimed to be "pure". Thanks.

His whole campaign was him not having the stench of the Socialists or the Republicans.

Unlike say, a Berlusconi, who doesn't really pretend not to be dirty, Macron made an attempt at that. Fine. But if you have that kind of past, I'm keeping my eye on you.

Seriously, that is some messed up whack shit.

So he's more likely to take a bung because he had some afternoon delight with Madame Robinson when he was a teen?

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« Reply #151 on: June 20, 2017, 03:10:52 PM »
So he's more likely to take a bung because he had some afternoon delight with Madame Robinson when he was a teen?

What kind of person ruins a family like that? If you're willing to make your childrens' life a living hell just so you can screw, you've got some messed up priorities.

Say what you will about Trump, but he married gold diggers and stuck to flirting with floozies.

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« Reply #152 on: June 20, 2017, 03:20:02 PM »
So he's more likely to take a bung because he had some afternoon delight with Madame Robinson when he was a teen?

What kind of person ruins a family like that? If you're willing to make your childrens' life a living hell just so you can screw, you've got some messed up priorities.

Say what you will about Trump, but he married gold diggers and stuck to flirting with floozies.

He was a child.

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« Reply #153 on: June 20, 2017, 03:56:19 PM »
So he's more likely to take a bung because he had some afternoon delight with Madame Robinson when he was a teen?

What kind of person ruins a family like that? If you're willing to make your childrens' life a living hell just so you can screw, you've got some messed up priorities.

Say what you will about Trump, but he married gold diggers and stuck to flirting with floozies.

Sorry, I didn't know the children of Brigitte Macron had their lives turned into a "living hell". That's horrible. Could you provide a link to this harrowing account? French sources are fine

Offline StillInKorea

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« Reply #154 on: June 20, 2017, 05:55:23 PM »
Arabin, how would you feel about a male teacher in France doing the same thing with a 15 year old student? I mean, you do advocate gender equality.

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« Reply #155 on: June 20, 2017, 06:06:24 PM »
Arabin, how would you feel about a male teacher in France doing the same thing with a 15 year old student? I mean, you do advocate gender equality.

I don't really feel too good about it being a female teacher. Just saying it Macron must have felt it was alright since he later proposed to her.

But somehow that got you and your bros talking about rape. Like a lot. And even got someone to post links to some creepy sex-tourist website.


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« Reply #156 on: June 20, 2017, 06:23:12 PM »
Arabin, how would you feel about a male teacher in France doing the same thing with a 15 year old student? I mean, you do advocate gender equality.

I don't really feel too good about it being a female teacher. Just saying it Macron must have felt it was alright since he later proposed to her.

Would you apply the same standards if it was a male teacher and female student who later got married?

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« Reply #157 on: June 21, 2017, 10:28:53 AM »
Arabin, how would you feel about a male teacher in France doing the same thing with a 15 year old student? I mean, you do advocate gender equality.

I don't really feel too good about it being a female teacher. Just saying it Macron must have felt it was alright since he later proposed to her.

Would you apply the same standards if it was a male teacher and female student who later got married?

I would still refute the allegation that he is a rapist or a cannibal or an insurance fraudster.

As for the equality thing, I need more info. Give me a detailed scenario and I will be able to answer.

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« Reply #158 on: June 21, 2017, 03:13:20 PM »
So he's more likely to take a bung because he had some afternoon delight with Madame Robinson when he was a teen?

What kind of person ruins a family like that? If you're willing to make your childrens' life a living hell just so you can screw, you've got some messed up priorities.

Say what you will about Trump, but he married gold diggers and stuck to flirting with floozies.

Sorry, I didn't know the children of Brigitte Macron had their lives turned into a "living hell". That's horrible. Could you provide a link to this harrowing account? French sources are fine

Maybe they've gotten messed up over it, maybe they haven't. I do know that divorce tends to cause significant problems for kids and society.

If you can't see how effed up what Macron and his wife did, I don't know what to say.

And again, that doesn't mean he shouldn't be president or that he won't make a good one. Just, keep on eye on him and don't trust his smile.

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« Reply #159 on: June 21, 2017, 04:53:08 PM »
So he's more likely to take a bung because he had some afternoon delight with Madame Robinson when he was a teen?

What kind of person ruins a family like that? If you're willing to make your childrens' life a living hell just so you can screw, you've got some messed up priorities.

Say what you will about Trump, but he married gold diggers and stuck to flirting with floozies.

Sorry, I didn't know the children of Brigitte Macron had their lives turned into a "living hell". That's horrible. Could you provide a link to this harrowing account? French sources are fine

Maybe they've gotten messed up over it, maybe they haven't. I do know that divorce tends to cause significant problems for kids and society.

If you can't see how effed up what Macron and his wife did, I don't know what to say.

And again, that doesn't mean he shouldn't be president or that he won't make a good one. Just, keep on eye on him and don't trust his smile.

I'm sure the citoyens are relieved that an ESL teacher in South Korea is being vigilant on their behalf.
Are you a juge d'instruction that just likes to post here or has the Conseil constitutionnel recently decided to empower contrarian Koreaboos?


 

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