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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2017, 06:52:20 PM »
I'm headed home after my contract ends in ~5 months. Not because I have some desire to go back but because for me, this job is not a permanent thing.  It's starting to feel stale and I think 2 years was just right for me. I'm hoping to land a job in the U.S. for a bit and gain some work experience in a new field and then boomerang back overseas. I have no attachment to my home country other than my family and I'm not about to let their needs impede on my own.  That sounds harsh, but it's true. I've gotta do what's right for me and the U.S. isn't looking out for my well being.

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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2017, 07:15:14 PM »
I'm heading home to the USA after 8+ years. At some point I think everyone here should have an exit plan back to the real world. I have no desire to continue teaching in public school programs that ignores their NETs and/or downsizes them, and I don't want to be in a typical 2.1m hagwon hell gig that doesn't provide any career advancement. There are plenty of broke college grads out there willing to accept worse and worse positions.


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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2017, 07:15:44 PM »
Naw, I'm perfectly fine here in Asia.  :smiley:

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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2017, 12:10:27 AM »
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I did but kind of regret it. It's not that my life is worse here or better. My carrer and future are better here I guess but that's not certain either. It's just not who I am. Who I am is someone who enjoys living in Asia, even though it's very tough there. If that's you, I think you should stay in Asia. Life isn't easy anywhere.

I envy the version of me living in Korea from 2006-2008/9, badly envy. It's like the nexus. Wish I was in those times again. Overally I was very happy there for the first 3 years, and although it's gone now, being far from Korea just makes my youth feel even farther away now. Never leave!

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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2017, 11:44:05 AM »
I envy the version of me living in Korea from 2006-2008/9, badly envy. It's like the nexus. Wish I was in those times again. Overall I was very happy there for the first 3 years, and although it's gone now, being far from Korea just makes my youth feel even farther away now. Never leave!

That's exactly how I felt after leaving. There were things that I loved about going back, but the person I was in 2014 was a trailblazer, adventurous, and completely self-sufficient. All of my growing and expanding as a person was done here. Going back home was like going back to being a cog in a wheel again, where everyone around you is focused on settling and I'd never felt so tied down. Went back to Korea and have loved it ever since.
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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2017, 12:26:33 PM »
Current plan: Stay in Korea until 2020 to pay off all student loan debt and save up money. Then travel the world for a year or two. Then maybe move back to the States. However, it'll probably be a temporary solution (stay for a year max) before I try to find either another teaching job abroad or a way to be location independent, so I can travel and live abroad.

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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2017, 12:39:19 PM »
  My current contract ends next Feb, so my wife and I will be leaving to get Masters+teaching licenses back in America to break into the international school scene.  Huge money potential there for teaching couples.

I just want to add: if any of you feel stuck or frustrated here in Korea, there are tons of opportunities out there if you put your nose to the grinder and focus on something.  If you want better teaching jobs, focus on upping your credentials.  If you are sick of teaching and want a complete career shift, get into something like Coding (HTML, UX design is huge) and focus on that.  If you dislike computers, look into joining a trade school back in the states (Windmill technicians are gonna be in huge demand the next few years.)  There's always an option, and hope.  You just have to adapt, research, come up with a plan and attack.

The same way you adapted with a bad job market back West by coming over here, you'll have to do the same to move to the next step to get out of EPIK/hagwons.
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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2017, 12:55:58 PM »
In America, the economy's getting better, I do believe?  In Canada, it's pretty mediocre?  Maybe some places are improving?  Some parts of Ontario, some parts of BC, the west, outside Calgary and Edmonton seem to have lower unemployment rates.  some friends say the oil patch is slowly picking up again.  Out east in the Maritimes and much of Quebec seems a permanent write off.  (But one of those provinces has a new upstart party that seems to have a good economic plan if it can get itself elected from what friends are telling me.)

Canada is still a mixed bag with high rents in a lot of places.  It's pretty much high all over the place due to a lot of hidden taxes charged in many provinces, along with ridiculous land restrictions, zoning requirements, etc.  Anyways, if you take the long view and have a good cash cushion saved up, it can soften the transition.  I don't care a whole lot what I do, except a call center (I despise those with a passion).  All I want is a middle class wage. 

In America, your fundamentals seem to be getting a lot stronger.  The stock market and small business confidence is soaring due to more business friendly policies coming out of the new administration.  Meanwhile, we're stuck with (PM) Turdo and a lot of provincial idiots who tax the hell out of people!  At any rate, I'll take a stab at home soon, try it for a year, and then see after that.

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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2017, 01:17:28 PM »
Well, I know I won't be staying in Korea after this contract (she says every year, but this time I am done. Really.). I will either go home or teach somewhere else. Taiwan maybe. Debts are paid now so I just want a good quality life, don't have to chase the big money.
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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2017, 01:36:26 PM »
In the boat of I have no idea if i will be going back home, make Korea my home, or make some other country my home. I may or may not have made the initial mistake of coming to Korea due to my relationship :P, but thus far I'm pretty content with my life thus far. I don't make amazing money, but it does beat some of the work stress I had previously to this job.

Don't get me wrong, sometimes my kids drive me insane, but I wouldn't trade that for another job so easily ;D. I have always wanted to teach overseas so this has crossed off one thing on my to do list. Will i do this specifically for the rest of my life...? Hmm... Only time will tell.

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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2017, 03:45:10 AM »
#zumamustfall... under a bus

 zuma has been the target of western propaganda efforts to unseat him because he wants his country independent of the US power web.

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NEW YORK — The U.S.-NATO Empire, with its centers of power in Washington, on Wall Street, and in the city of London, is on the offensive against the BRICS countries. This assault takes many forms, each tailored to its specific target.

The ongoing soft coup in Brazil has recently entered a new stage with the impeachment of President Dilma Rousseff of the left-wing Workers’ Party. Simultaneously, the destabilization of the ANC-led government in South Africa continues as political forces align to remove President Jacob Zuma. These two situations illustrate clearly the very potent forms of subversion via Western-funded political formations and movements being employed against Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa, the bloc of emerging economies also known as BRICS. 
http://www.mintpressnews.com/brics-attack-western-banks-governments-launch-full-spectrum-assault-russia-part/215761/

maybe zuma is corrupt but a whole load of world leaders are worse.
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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2017, 06:14:27 PM »
Yes. Hopefully by August.

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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2017, 06:51:06 PM »
I plan to go back someday, but there aren't any immediate plans for when that may happen, and I accept the possibility that I might end up somewhere other than my home country that I may never want to leave.

In either case, I would never settle down in Korea. I like it here and all and it has a lot of good points, but it also has a lot of major problems that I take issue with (such as an archaic legal system that still blames and punishes victims, and an obvious bias against anyone who isn't an ethnic Korean -- doesn't bode well for a foreigner who ends up becoming a victim, which is more likely to happen against a foreigner here than to your average Korean citizen).

It's also shit for raising children, imo... the education system, while it produces good test scores, has some serious flaws and doesn't platform well for turning kids into critical thinkers and problem solvers. Plus, the rest of the world doesn't take degrees from Korean universities very seriously because of the rampant cheating and plagiarism and its failure to uphold global standards -- the test scores say they do, but, in practice, many global/foreign businesses have learned that their Korean new hires don't tend to have the skills that their scores imply. Some businesses refuse to consider Korean candidates (straight from Korea, never lived outside of Korea before) without work experience for this very reason -- they've been stung too many times by candidates who could spit out definitions and theorems but who also didn't know what any of it meant in the real world and, therefore, didn't know how to apply them in real situations. If I did end up settling down and having kids here, I would have them attending international schools and obtaining their college degrees from accredited and globally acknowledged foreign universities.

With that being said, I do acknowledge that Korea does provide the right people with enough benefits to be worth it for them to turn Korea into their new home, and that, yes, Korea is still a better place than many others. If it works for some, it works for them. It just isn't for me.

But you never know. Korea continues to change and I may stick around here long enough to witness a few of some much needed changes that might convince me to settle down. We'll see what happens.
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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2017, 07:11:29 PM »
(such as an archaic legal system that still blames and punishes victims, and an obvious bias against anyone who isn't an ethnic Korean -- doesn't bode well for a foreigner who ends up becoming a victim, which is more likely to happen against a foreigner here than to your average Korean citizen).

This.

The biggest drawback to Korea, for sure.

The sheer vulnerability of foreigners here, legally speaking, is quite shocking.

A Korean person could attack any foreigner and the you would end up having to pay blood money to the attacker. It is absurd.

What it means is that you can never act with the same confidence or relax to the same degree you could as in the west. You have to be always thinking two steps ahead, walking on broken glass, avoiding situations. Because every time you interact with a Korean, you're talking to someone who ultimately holds all the power, while you have none.
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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2017, 10:19:50 PM »
You have to be always thinking two steps ahead, walking on broken glass, avoiding situations.

That's just my normal mode of operation!  ;D

Never had any trouble here. But I almost always have Korean intermediaries. The father in-law is ex Korean military intelligence and is just waiting for someone to mess with me, so he can unleash hell. NE Asia is a hierarchy/network thing as we all know, I don't see how foreigners survive solo, seems like a lot of situations where one could get screwed.

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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2017, 11:31:22 PM »
I'm leaving Korea soon. Korea has its place in my life for sure but I want my children to experience a childhood not a study/hagwon life. After I had a child I couldn't teach full time at hagwons anymore, it's depressing watching children become drones here.

Sure single people can live abroad their whole working life. Retiring abroad is great too if you planned ahead but when your health goes downhill you are left scrambling for money. The party life also catches up to you eventually.

Canada has healthcare although slow and inefficient is relatively cheap by being paid in taxes. I never have to worry about medical bills in Canada as it's all covered. Western Canada has lots of jobs just many people don't want to do these jobs.

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Re: Would you ever move back to your home country?
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2017, 11:50:46 AM »
No, I don't think I would ever move back to the US. The only thing there for me that I can't get elsewhere is my family (mother and sister), but they are also their own people living their own lives. I wouldn't move back to the US for them, just like I wouldn't expect them to move here for me.

 

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