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Re: So much for the Mooch plugging the leaks
« Reply #860 on: August 01, 2017, 03:19:59 PM »

Did you ever hear the one about that Russian adoption meeting?


Trump dictated son’s misleading statement on meeting with Russian lawyer

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dictated-sons-misleading-statement-on-meeting-with-russian-lawyer/2017/07/31/04c94f96-73ae-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_airforceone-759pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.3877fd6a3bc4

I am confused - wasn't Putin in Charge? Why wouldn't he not train Trump Jr.? 

Or is the puppet puppeteering his children?

Was Jon Snow involved? 

Please, explain.

News to me buddy.
Do you have any sources for these claims?

Unless, you have something to share I would have thought that the publicly available evidence thus far would indicate his children, like their father, are too inexperienced/incompetent to be puppeteers.
Mind you, I've never been one for the merits of a type of de facto royal family exercising executive privilege through birth right, so perhaps I'm a little prejudiced.

Come to think of it, didn't you chaps fight a civil war against those type of shenanigans a while back?
 
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Re: So much for the Mooch plugging the leaks
« Reply #861 on: August 01, 2017, 03:33:12 PM »

Did you ever hear the one about that Russian adoption meeting?


Trump dictated son’s misleading statement on meeting with Russian lawyer

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dictated-sons-misleading-statement-on-meeting-with-russian-lawyer/2017/07/31/04c94f96-73ae-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_airforceone-759pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.3877fd6a3bc4

I am confused - wasn't Putin in Charge? Why wouldn't he not train Trump Jr.? 

Or is the puppet puppeteering his children?

Was Jon Snow involved? 

Please, explain.

News to me buddy.
Do you have any sources for these claims?

Unless, you have something to share I would have thought that the publicly available evidence thus far would indicate his children, like their father, are too inexperienced/incompetent to be puppeteers.
Mind you, I've never been one for the merits of a type of de facto royal family exercising executive privilege through birth right, so perhaps I'm a little prejudiced.

Come to think of it, didn't you chaps fight a civil against those type of shenanigans a while back?

Your article suggests that the puppet is in fact puppeteering his children.  Is that even possible? 

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Re: So much for the Mooch plugging the leaks
« Reply #862 on: August 01, 2017, 04:01:27 PM »

Did you ever hear the one about that Russian adoption meeting?


Trump dictated son’s misleading statement on meeting with Russian lawyer

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-dictated-sons-misleading-statement-on-meeting-with-russian-lawyer/2017/07/31/04c94f96-73ae-11e7-8f39-eeb7d3a2d304_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_airforceone-759pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.3877fd6a3bc4

I am confused - wasn't Putin in Charge? Why wouldn't he not train Trump Jr.? 

Or is the puppet puppeteering his children?

Was Jon Snow involved? 

Please, explain.

News to me buddy.
Do you have any sources for these claims?

Unless, you have something to share I would have thought that the publicly available evidence thus far would indicate his children, like their father, are too inexperienced/incompetent to be puppeteers.
Mind you, I've never been one for the merits of a type of de facto royal family exercising executive privilege through birth right, so perhaps I'm a little prejudiced.

Come to think of it, didn't you chaps fight a civil against those type of shenanigans a while back?

Your article suggests that the puppet is in fact puppeteering his children.  Is that even possible?

Well, if you believe that to be the implication of the article then I'll defer to your explanation of a puppet and puppeteers.

With reference to the relationship and advice between Trump and his children, I suspect the blind attempting to lead the blind would be a more fitting analogy.
Nonetheless, without getting into the laundromat business, with reference to this article and the events in question, the pertinent part is the intent of Trump's communication. It would be difficult to argue his intent was transparency through full disclosure.
 
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #863 on: August 02, 2017, 08:24:39 AM »
The biggest danger for the anti-Trump army is that they are going so over the top that they might lose their support base. 

Here is how JK Rowling got trolled and paid the price by having to apologize to the big T. 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4747162/JK-Rowling-Trump-slur-proves-Queen-Hypocrisy.html

Trump is such an easy target and rightfully so. Yet, the more mass media trolls, the less support it will retain of its faithful viewers.  The boy who cried wolf story runs true here.  The mass media has been crying wolf in all the wrong places while ignoring the places where the real crime is happening.  Then again, how much faith do you have in the news media owned by corporations?  Life support trusts CNN 100% of the time, how about you?

I tend to avoid blanket statements of either trust or distrust in media organisations. Rather I prefer to focus on the evidence presented and look for corroboration from the key actors involved in specific events.

With reference to my previous post regarding that story reported by the Washington Post, I remembered the careful wording that Jay Sekulow had used when asked about Trump's involvement with Trump Jr statement in relation his meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya et al. a couple of weeks ago. Perhaps you'd like to google it and compare it with Huckabee Sanders'most recent statements and take note of the inconsistency in the messaging.

Unless, of course you'd prefer to spout some of Sean Hannity's talking points or look to the Daily Mail and JK Rowlings for some more distractions and infotainment. .

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #864 on: August 02, 2017, 09:39:36 AM »
More fuel for the fire:
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The Fox News Channel and a wealthy supporter of President Trump worked in concert under the watchful eye of the White House to concoct a story about the death of a young Democratic National Committee aide, according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday.

The explosive claim is part of a lawsuit filed against Fox News by Rod Wheeler, a longtime paid commentator for the news network. The suit was obtained exclusively by NPR.

Wheeler alleges Fox News and the Trump supporter intended to deflect public attention from growing concern about the administration's ties to the Russian government. His suit charges that a Fox News reporter created quotations out of thin air and attributed them to him to propel her story.
Emphasis mine.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #865 on: August 02, 2017, 10:53:28 AM »
More fuel for the fire:
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The Fox News Channel and a wealthy supporter of President Trump worked in concert under the watchful eye of the White House to concoct a story about the death of a young Democratic National Committee aide, according to a lawsuit filed Tuesday.

The explosive claim is part of a lawsuit filed against Fox News by Rod Wheeler, a longtime paid commentator for the news network. The suit was obtained exclusively by NPR.

Wheeler alleges Fox News and the Trump supporter intended to deflect public attention from growing concern about the administration's ties to the Russian government. His suit charges that a Fox News reporter created quotations out of thin air and attributed them to him to propel her story.
Emphasis mine.

Ah yes, I remember that idiot Aurata arguing the Seth Rich conspiracy a while back.

http://www.waygook.org/index.php/topic,102932.160.html

He is quite an ardent advocate of fake news stories.


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #866 on: August 02, 2017, 11:06:44 AM »

Unless, of course you'd prefer to spout some of Sean Hannity's talking points or look to the Daily Mail and JK Rowlings for some more distractions and infotainment. .

Sorry, but I got the dailymail link from your beloved CNN ;)  Do you feel better now?

http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/31/media/jk-rowling-trump-shake-hand-disabled-boy/index.html 
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #867 on: August 02, 2017, 11:21:09 AM »

Unless, of course you'd prefer to spout some of Sean Hannity's talking points or look to the Daily Mail and JK Rowlings for some more distractions and infotainment. .

Sorry, but I got the dailymail link from your beloved CNN ;)
http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/31/media/jk-rowling-trump-shake-hand-disabled-boy/index.html

Dude, so what you're really saying in this post is that you're an avid viewer of CNN.
Good for you! :wink:

I don't have cable TV myself. If I did I'd only be interested in Fox Footy but they tend to bundle it with a lot of other crap.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/tv-shows

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #868 on: August 02, 2017, 12:57:02 PM »

Unless, of course you'd prefer to spout some of Sean Hannity's talking points or look to the Daily Mail and JK Rowlings for some more distractions and infotainment. .

Sorry, but I got the dailymail link from your beloved CNN ;)
http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/31/media/jk-rowling-trump-shake-hand-disabled-boy/index.html

Dude, so what you're really saying in this post is that you're an avid viewer of CNN.
Good for you! :wink:

I don't have cable TV myself. If I did I'd only be interested in Fox Footy but they tend to bundle it with a lot of other crap.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/tv-shows

I can see that you are unable to tell the difference between a website and TV.  That explains ... oh, so many things. 

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #869 on: August 02, 2017, 02:50:21 PM »

Unless, of course you'd prefer to spout some of Sean Hannity's talking points or look to the Daily Mail and JK Rowlings for some more distractions and infotainment. .

Sorry, but I got the dailymail link from your beloved CNN ;)
http://money.cnn.com/2017/07/31/media/jk-rowling-trump-shake-hand-disabled-boy/index.html

Dude, so what you're really saying in this post is that you're an avid viewer of CNN.
Good for you! :wink:

I don't have cable TV myself. If I did I'd only be interested in Fox Footy but they tend to bundle it with a lot of other crap.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/tv-shows

I can see that you are unable to tell the difference between a website and TV.  That explains ... oh, so many things.

Okay, I get it dude!
At some point in time I have watched a CNN clip on You tube which totally invalidates the point that was made earlier
Clearly your title of Hero of Waygookistan permits you to view CNN without suffering such burdens. ;D

God bless you and your quest of enlightenment in Korea! :laugh:

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #870 on: August 03, 2017, 09:19:55 AM »
Tillerson rejects funds to fight disinformation. One source says he was concerned it would anger Russia.
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/02/tillerson-isis-russia-propaganda-241218
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"Over the last five to 10 years, there's been a tsunami of disinformation and anti-American propaganda around the world," said Rick Stengel, who, as a former undersecretary of state for public diplomacy, oversaw the center. "The Global Engagement Center is one of the few, if only, areas in the U.S. government that could be tasked with countering and rebutting disinformation against America."

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« Reply #871 on: August 10, 2017, 01:44:47 PM »
Trump ain't calling it a witch hunt anymore. Too late for feigned respect methinks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhrcSin9Lnk

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #872 on: August 10, 2017, 06:10:45 PM »
Mueller seems to have gotten the scent and is hot on trumpy's trail.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #873 on: August 11, 2017, 02:53:25 PM »
The Nation, about as solidly left-leaning a publication as you can get, with a very good reputation, has published a story seriously questioning the Russia-DNC Hacking claim.

https://www.thenation.com/article/a-new-report-raises-big-questions-about-last-years-dnc-hack/

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #874 on: August 13, 2017, 09:07:39 AM »
Muslim rams car into people - Trump launches into twitter tirade about "Islamic Extremisim".

White guy rams car into people - No condemnation of "White Supremacy, "Neo-Nazim" or "Domestic Terrorism".

Got to keep those parts of the base, happy.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #875 on: August 14, 2017, 08:38:27 AM »
Muslim rams car into people - Trump launches into twitter tirade about "Islamic Extremisim".

White guy rams car into people - No condemnation of "White Supremacy, "Neo-Nazim" or "Domestic Terrorism".

Got to keep those parts of the base, happy.

It's amazing, isn't it?  Do people really think others are actually overreacting about Trump?  A 'white supremacist' president turns a blind eye to neo-nazism, but is happy to call out Muslims for any slight incursion. 

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The original United States of America was built on white supremacy. The US constitution of 1787 treated black slaves as equivalent to three-fifths of a free white and gave no rights at all to Native Americans, who were regarded as belonging to their own nations. After the civil war, Jim Crow laws enforced segregation across the defeated south and comprehensively disfranchised African Americans for nearly a century. Writing Mein Kampf in the 1920s, Adolf Hitler praised America’s institutional racism as a model from which Nazi Germany could learn. Only in the postwar period, and then slowly and incompletely, was meaningful racial equality pursued by the land of the free.

That would not have happened under Mr Bush, for all his faults. Nor is it true of top Republicans like Cory Gardner, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Orrin Hatch, none of them social liberals, who were all quick to call the supremacists out. Even the Senate majority leader, Mitch McConnell, who is few people’s idea of an ideological exemplar, condemned the racists. But Mr Trump did not.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2017/aug/13/the-guardian-view-on-donald-trump-and-racism-a-moral-failure-that-shames-america




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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #876 on: August 14, 2017, 09:41:22 AM »
Trump's response was one of more sane responses I've heard. AntiFa and BLM did not arrive in Charlottesville with peaceful intentions and by some accounts instigated most of the violence. I'm not sure what the motivations of the guy who drove his car into a group of counter-protesters were. It's clear from one of the videos that his car was being vandalized. He may have panicked and hit the accelerator.

"The critics are guilty of a double standard, and of exploiting the violence for political gain, widening America’s divisions at a time when national unity is the only proper course.

"First of all, as a factual matter, it is self-evident that there was violence on both sides on Saturday, though the attack in which a car plowed into a crowd of left-wing protesters stands apart as a despicable act. Two groups who have been fighting all over the country — white supremacists and so-called 'anti-fascists' — went to Charlottesville to do the same, just as they did last summer in Sacramento, and just as they have elsewhere. Condemning one side alone would essentially have given the other side a pass for its tactics — and a political victory that neither deserved.

"Second, Trump’s critics never applied the same standard to Barack Obama. When five Dallas police officers were murdered in cold blood at a Black Lives Matter protest, Obama did not disavow the movement, nor did the media demand he do so. On the contrary, when he spoke at a memorial service for the police, he actually endorsed the movement and its goals"
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/13/charlottesville-donald-trump-right-condemn-violence-many-sides/

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #877 on: August 14, 2017, 09:52:28 AM »
Trump's response was one of more sane responses I've heard. AntiFa and BLM did not arrive in Charlottesville with peaceful intentions and by some accounts instigated most of the violence. I'm not sure what the motivations of the guy who drove his car into a group of counter-protesters were. It's clear from one of the videos that his car was being vandalized. He may have panicked and hit the accelerator.

"The critics are guilty of a double standard, and of exploiting the violence for political gain, widening America’s divisions at a time when national unity is the only proper course.

"First of all, as a factual matter, it is self-evident that there was violence on both sides on Saturday, though the attack in which a car plowed into a crowd of left-wing protesters stands apart as a despicable act. Two groups who have been fighting all over the country — white supremacists and so-called 'anti-fascists' — went to Charlottesville to do the same, just as they did last summer in Sacramento, and just as they have elsewhere. Condemning one side alone would essentially have given the other side a pass for its tactics — and a political victory that neither deserved.

"Second, Trump’s critics never applied the same standard to Barack Obama. When five Dallas police officers were murdered in cold blood at a Black Lives Matter protest, Obama did not disavow the movement, nor did the media demand he do so. On the contrary, when he spoke at a memorial service for the police, he actually endorsed the movement and its goals"
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/13/charlottesville-donald-trump-right-condemn-violence-many-sides/

- praises Trump for not criticizing Nazis
- copypastes white supremacist Breitbart, surprising nobody


Why do Nazis love Trump so much? When you have a bunch of disgusting hillbilly Nazis committing violence and murder in your name, usually the sane thing to do is distance yourself from them.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #878 on: August 14, 2017, 10:08:12 AM »
Trump's response was one of more sane responses I've heard. AntiFa and BLM did not arrive in Charlottesville with peaceful intentions and by some accounts instigated most of the violence. I'm not sure what the motivations of the guy who drove his car into a group of counter-protesters were. It's clear from one of the videos that his car was being vandalized. He may have panicked and hit the accelerator.

"The critics are guilty of a double standard, and of exploiting the violence for political gain, widening America’s divisions at a time when national unity is the only proper course.

"First of all, as a factual matter, it is self-evident that there was violence on both sides on Saturday, though the attack in which a car plowed into a crowd of left-wing protesters stands apart as a despicable act. Two groups who have been fighting all over the country — white supremacists and so-called 'anti-fascists' — went to Charlottesville to do the same, just as they did last summer in Sacramento, and just as they have elsewhere. Condemning one side alone would essentially have given the other side a pass for its tactics — and a political victory that neither deserved.

"Second, Trump’s critics never applied the same standard to Barack Obama. When five Dallas police officers were murdered in cold blood at a Black Lives Matter protest, Obama did not disavow the movement, nor did the media demand he do so. On the contrary, when he spoke at a memorial service for the police, he actually endorsed the movement and its goals"
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/08/13/charlottesville-donald-trump-right-condemn-violence-many-sides/

- praises Trump for not criticizing Nazis
- copypastes white supremacist Breitbart, surprising nobody


Why do Nazis love Trump so much? When you have a bunch of disgusting hillbilly Nazis committing violence and murder in your name, usually the sane thing to do is distance yourself from them.

Right.  Also...

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David Duke, the former head of the Ku Klux Klan who was the subject of controversy during the 2016 campaign when Trump did not immediately condemn his endorsement, pushed back on this initial tweet. “I would recommend you take a good look in the mirror & remember it was White Americans who put you in the presidency, not radical leftists,” responded Duke, who was in Charlottesville.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/12/charlottesville-protest-trump-condemns-violence-many-sides


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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #879 on: August 14, 2017, 11:23:19 AM »
You know what this is? It's like frickin 'Gangs of New York' or two sets of football hooligans from different nations going at each other.

Also, like 'Gangs' the media makes a complete hash of it. Never mind that far-left groups have marched with anti-semitic positions or have instigated violence or are racist against white people, they are being portrayed as the "heroes" and "victims". In case you don't know, the Irish gangs that the film made look like heroes, were the most virulently racist of the bunch and were actually responsible for most of the Draft Riot violence, including the lynching of blacks. But hey, can't have it look like the immigrants are worse than the nativists.

Somehow Trump is responsible for a couple of hundred yahoos showing up to protest something and then a thousand yahoos showing up to beat them up. According to the media this is some sort of mass wave.

I think most Americans are more concerned with preseason and getting their fantasy football team ready. People who are in the world of politics seem to think that everyone is wrapped up in it and gives a shit about it 24-7 and these are dramatic, huge breaking events.

Please, 95% of stuff about Trump is media hype and people's fears taken to a thousand.