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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #320 on: March 20, 2017, 02:35:16 PM »
And yet she can't pull above around 33% in her country, for all her 'dignity'.

Proportional representation vs electoral college voting?  Democratically elected vs Undemocratically elected?

I understand proportional representation, but she is currently polling behind Martin Schulz. Obviously people aren't that thrilled with her.

And Trump was democratically elected by the rules. Hillary ran to be popular. Trump ran to win.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #321 on: March 20, 2017, 03:36:00 PM »


What a meeting.  One, a dignified stateswoman who's worked her way up to the top and always holds herself with dignity and listens to others.  The other is a narcissistic reality tv celebrity and 'failed' businessman, born into money, who likes nothing better than to always start fights and tell people what's on his stupid mind with twitter.  What an embarrassing mismatch.

And yet she can't pull above around 33% in her country, for all her 'dignity'.

She's been chancellor for 12 years. Most leaders would struggle to have overwhelming support after three terms.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #322 on: March 21, 2017, 12:46:17 AM »


What a meeting.  One, a dignified stateswoman who's worked her way up to the top and always holds herself with dignity and listens to others.  The other is a narcissistic reality tv celebrity and 'failed' businessman, born into money, who likes nothing better than to always start fights and tell people what's on his stupid mind with twitter.  What an embarrassing mismatch.

And yet she can't pull above around 33% in her country, for all her 'dignity'.

She's been chancellor for 12 years. Most leaders would struggle to have overwhelming support after three terms.

In other words it took 12 years to realize she was shoveling horse manure.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #323 on: March 21, 2017, 03:38:25 AM »


What a meeting.  One, a dignified stateswoman who's worked her way up to the top and always holds herself with dignity and listens to others.  The other is a narcissistic reality tv celebrity and 'failed' businessman, born into money, who likes nothing better than to always start fights and tell people what's on his stupid mind with twitter.  What an embarrassing mismatch.

And yet she can't pull above around 33% in her country, for all her 'dignity'.

She's been chancellor for 12 years. Most leaders would struggle to have overwhelming support after three terms.

In other words it took 12 years to realize she was shoveling horse manure.

Unlike Trump whose current approval rating stands at 37% after only about 2 months.

There are some that say Merkel has assumed the role as leader of  the "free world" given the vacuum in Washington at present.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #324 on: March 23, 2017, 07:05:56 AM »
What a truly loveable family.

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Donald Trump Jr is facing a backlash for criticizing London mayor Sadiq Khan with a scornful tweet sent hours after an attack at the Houses of Parliament left four dead, including a police officer.

The US president’s eldest son tweeted a link to a September 2016 story in the Independent, which quoted Khan saying terror attacks were “part and parcel of living in a big city”, and “I want to be reassured that every single agency and individual involved in protecting our city has the resources and expertise they need to respond in the event that London is attacked.”

“You have to be kidding me?!” Trump Jr tweeted, quoting the headline: “Terror attacks are part of living in big city, says London Mayor Sadiq Khan”.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/22/donald-trump-jr-tweet-london-mayor-sadiq-khan

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #325 on: March 23, 2017, 09:39:17 AM »


What a meeting.  One, a dignified stateswoman who's worked her way up to the top and always holds herself with dignity and listens to others.  The other is a narcissistic reality tv celebrity and 'failed' businessman, born into money, who likes nothing better than to always start fights and tell people what's on his stupid mind with twitter.  What an embarrassing mismatch.

And yet she can't pull above around 33% in her country, for all her 'dignity'.

She's been chancellor for 12 years. Most leaders would struggle to have overwhelming support after three terms.

In other words it took 12 years to realize she was shoveling horse manure.

Unlike Trump whose current approval rating stands at 37% after only about 2 months.

There are some that say Merkel has assumed the role as leader of  the "free world" given the vacuum in Washington at present.

Yeah thats what Brits, Americans, Canadians, Japanese, anf Australians are asking- "What's Merkel's plan. She's the leader."

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #326 on: March 23, 2017, 09:52:15 AM »


What a meeting.  One, a dignified stateswoman who's worked her way up to the top and always holds herself with dignity and listens to others.  The other is a narcissistic reality tv celebrity and 'failed' businessman, born into money, who likes nothing better than to always start fights and tell people what's on his stupid mind with twitter.  What an embarrassing mismatch.

And yet she can't pull above around 33% in her country, for all her 'dignity'.

She's been chancellor for 12 years. Most leaders would struggle to have overwhelming support after three terms.

In other words it took 12 years to realize she was shoveling horse manure.
Maybe. But she must have been doing something right to win 3 successive terms.
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #327 on: March 23, 2017, 02:21:46 PM »
Merkel has assumed the role as leader of  the "free world"

Free world? Lol. Germany is a vassal state of Washington.

The US gets to occupy their country with multiple military bases as well as dictate their foreign policy.
America gets to bomb all kinds of muslim countries and Germany must destroy its society by taking in all the resulting refugees.

What interest does Germany have in moving toward military confrontation with Russia? None. Yet that is the direction Washington is forcing them.

Germany became a vassal at the end of WWII:

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Publication of a book like The German card. The obscure game of secret services, authored by Gerd-Helmut Komossa (Gerd-Helmut Komossa. DIE DEUTSCHE KARTE. Das verdeckte Spiel der geheimen Dienste. Ares-Verlag, Graz 2007. - 230 S.), is an exceptional occurrence. Raising very sensitive issues, the author appeals to the core of German identity that had been deliberately suppressed for decades by the United States and its allies. The book is focused on contradictions between the United States and Germany, sometimes very strong but not supposed to be discussed in public. It was published in Austria, and its distribution in Germany may encounter certain difficulties today. Still, the very fact of its appearance indicates that the German intelligence community is increasingly dissatisfied with the role of a vassal of the United States (the definition applied to Europe by Zbigniew Brzezinski), imposed on Western Germany after World War II. Gerd-Helmut Komossa reveals the uncomfortable truth about the post-war conditions, dictated by the US and its allies. The state treaty, dated May 21, 1949 and classified by BND as top secret, suggests restrictions of state sovereignty of the Federal Republic of Germany, introduced for a period until 2099. These restrictions include the provision that the winning coalition exercise complete control over Germany's mass media and communications; that every Federal Chancellor is to sign the so-called Chancellor Act; that the gold reserve of Germany is kept under arrest. In fact, all the German Chancellors, including the incumbent Chancellor Angela Merkel, pay their first foreign visit necessarily to the United States. The whole spectrum of German political parties is supervised by a special Washington-based controlling body, while local US-licensed media serve as a more sophisticated means of brainwashing than the Nazi propagandist machine. Meanwhile, Germany's territory is still occupied by US troops. This astonishing picture is not a fancy concoction of a political leftist. It is drawn by a military man whose mind has accumulated the experience of several crucial stages of development of the European civilization and Germany in particular. Gen. (Ret.) Gerd-Helmut Komossa took part in World War II and later in the Cold War. Possessing huge amounts of information, he analyzes the existing mechanisms of global policy with strong criticism. Joining the Wehrmacht in 1943 as a volunteer, Komossa served at the Eastern front. Between May 1945 and April 1949, he was a prisoner of war. In the USSR, he got acquainted with many Russians who appeared to be quite different from the image imposed by the official Nazi propaganda. Since 1956, he served in the German Bundeswehr, re-established under certain conditions. The abovementioned secret treaty admitted that the German sovereignty is sufficient for the right to build up military forces. According to the Constitution, the troops of the Federal Republic of Germany are carrying put exceptionally defensive functions. However, the Western coalition was pursuing different goals. It needed an army in new uniforms but with the same skills as the Nazi soldiers, perfectly fighting on land, on sea and in the air, and irrecusably abiding orders. Such a type of soldier was essential not only for the occasion of possible military collision with the Soviet bloc but also for fulfilling global missions. The coalition required at least 500,000 German soldiers. In addition, the newly-built army was supposed to purchase weapons and materiel solely from the United States. During the last two decades, Washington has been trying to force Germany into military partnership in globalistic control. However, the massive effort to get Germany involved in US operations in Somali and Bosnia, as well as in campaigns in Serbia, Iraq and Afghanistan, has brought about a reverse result, sparking a shift in approach in German strategic circles. The implicit discontent with American policy and essential difference in views on the role of the German people in current history eventually reached a critical dimension. Since mid-1990s, the attitude of many German military to the United States, and significantly also towards NATO, has essentially changed. Though most of the German officers were not originally inclined against America, a lot of them being educated in the United States, they are now experiencing disappointment and even disgust with Washington's policies. These officers realize that the hegemonistic policy is destined for destruction of socioeconomic systems of particular nations and whole regions, while the so-called order Washington is trying to impose is just a synonym for chaos. Gerd-Helmut Komossa, in his former capacity of MAD (Military Counterintelligence) Director, was frequently called "a soldier with political thinking". Today, he openly denounces the Bundeswehr's involvement in foreign interventions, referring to the army's constitutional duties. Meanwhile, Washington urges Germans to go fighting. Conceding to the pressure, Berlin deployed a contingent of troops to Afghanistan. But even this was not sufficient for NATO bosses. Recently, NATO General Secretary Jaap de Hoop Scheffer accused the Bundeswehr of idleness in military operations in the region, and insisted that Germany "increase flexibility" and expand its military mission to the southern regions of Afghanistan. In his book, Komossa inquires whether the state of affairs when young Germans are recruited in the national army for fulfilling overseas goals for other nations, could be acceptable. The map of operations, supposed to involve German troops, far exceeds the European continent, and has nothing to do with German national interests. "Do Germans expect this from the Bundeswehr? Would they like their soldiers to be called assassins again?" he asks. However, the United States and its allies don't care much for moral problems. As the secret treaty is valid until 2099, Germans are supposed to go and fight where they are told to. The German audience will require certain time to digest the shocking information disclosed by General Komossa. But eventually, the nation with a great cultural and historical tradition will hardly agree to continue tolerating the American loop on its throat for decades more. The publication of Komossa's "German Card" is one more proof of the world's transformation into a multipolar system. It indicates that Germany is likely to achieve complete sovereignty without waiting for eighty years.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #328 on: March 24, 2017, 12:01:16 AM »
More Bannon Sun Tzu moves, what Trumpers are calling 4D chess.

Play dumb against larger (but arrogant) opponents, make “stupid emotional moves”, drawing their attacks to your “weakness”, let them dig themselves in deep and become concentrated at that one location...then spring the trap door.

Everyone falllllling doooowwwnnn!!!!  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/house-intel-chairman-trump-s-communications-possibly-picked-incidental-surveillance-n737201

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #329 on: March 24, 2017, 03:27:01 AM »
Ah yes, a stunning level of incompetence!
About all Nunes has achieved is a demonstration in his inability to chair an independent  intelligence congressional committee and hence the need for the matter to be dealt with by an independent select committee, at the very least, if not a special prosecutor.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #331 on: March 24, 2017, 07:50:56 AM »

I wasn't for Trump, but I have to admit, he's taking a page from Obama's book - making huge elections promises, but bringing more of the same, or perhaps something that's even worse.

His budget proposal is a total joke - military budget up, everything else down.

Having said that, the elites should be quite content with his proposals - so I don't see an impeachment happening.

As far as his foreign policy is concerned, he's so busy battling the democrat allegations of being a Russian agent, that he's made no moves at all, which is actually a significant improvement from the Obama days - Obama kept creeping closer and closer to entering a military conflict with China/Russia.

In any case, the winning elections template has been set by Obama/Trump. Make huge promises, then backtrack everything you said after winning. I expect the next elections to be won by another 'change' person - leading to no change at all. It's like groundhog day - every 4 years.


 

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #332 on: March 24, 2017, 08:04:46 AM »
Obama kept creeping closer to military conflict with Russia/china?

He had multiple chances to engage them in Ukraine, Syria and even Georgia...yet decided not to do so at the outrage of those opposed to him.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #333 on: March 24, 2017, 08:50:34 AM »
In any case, the winning elections template has been set by Obama/Trump. Make huge promises, then backtrack everything you said after winning. I expect the next elections to be won by another 'change' person - leading to no change at all. It's like groundhog day - every 4 years.

Are you kidding me? Obama was an honest person. How did he backtrack on everything he said exactly? Republicans controlled the other branches of government for most of the time, obstructing him. Nevertheless, he was able to able to bring the country further to the left. Obama was an improvement over G.W. Trump the opposite. Much worse than Obama.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #334 on: March 24, 2017, 08:59:00 AM »
Obama kept creeping closer to military conflict with Russia/china?

He had multiple chances to engage them in Ukraine, Syria and even Georgia...yet decided not to do so at the outrage of those opposed to him.

Agreed. The one person in the Obama administration who wasn't beating the drums of war in Syria and Iran was Obama himself. Clinton on the other hand was chomping at the bit to do that.

Part of me wonders if one of the reasons Obama didn't make a bigger stink of the Russian stuff or do anything else was that in spite of the desire to keep his legacy, he also was deeply concerned about Hillary and her foreign policy and agreed with Trump on having a better working relationship with Russia.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #335 on: March 24, 2017, 09:33:46 AM »
Having said that, the elites should be quite content with his proposals - so I don't see an impeachment happening.

Right. The Republicans control the House and Senate. So...no impeachment.

Republicans and Democats- very different. They're not the same thing.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #336 on: March 24, 2017, 09:37:16 AM »
Clinton on the other hand was chomping at the bit to do that.

Acording to Zero Hedge, Info Wars, Russian Times, and other alt-right sites... :rolleyes:

Obama wanted Clinton, not Trump to be president. Strongly. He and his wife campaigned for her.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #337 on: March 24, 2017, 01:26:30 PM »
TRUMP AGAINST THE LIBERAL ESTABLISHMENT!  :laugh:



It's just an awesome display of long-game strategy and offensive/defensive tactics, nobody knows what's going on, no players currently on the battlefield have any chance.

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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
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Re: When will Trump be impeached?
« Reply #339 on: March 24, 2017, 02:00:15 PM »
Acording to Zero Hedge, Info Wars, Russian Times, and other alt-right sites... :rolleyes:

Obama wanted Clinton, not Trump to be president. Strongly. He and his wife campaigned for her.

Actually more like according to the Washington Post, the New York Times, and so on.

Go read about things before the presidential campaign even started. They talk extensively about this. But that would require actually being informed and staying informed, not just seeing Trump and flipping your lid.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/11/us/politics/obama-said-to-resist-growing-pressure-from-all-sides-to-arm-ukraine.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/obama-proposes-new-military-partnership-with-russia-in-syria/2016/06/29/8e8b2e2a-3e3f-11e6-80bc-d06711fd2125_story.html?utm_term=.56278effd484

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-syria-obama-214182

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/06/09/the-6-big-issues-where-hillary-clinton-and-barack-oabma-disagree/?utm_term=.14b1c39dd7c1

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/how-hillary-clinton-would-alter-president-obama-s-foreign-policy-n589871

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/12/world/europe/defying-obama-many-in-congress-press-to-arm-ukraine.html?_r=0

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/04/world/syria-exposes-split-between-obama-and-clinton.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/us/debate-syria-trump-clinton.html

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/hillary-clinton-is-no-obama

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/08/10/hillary-clinton-splits-with-obama-on-foreign-policy/

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-responds-clinton-syria


Obama had to campaign for her of course, he's a Democrat after all and did not like Trump, but there was a reason he didn't push the Russian angle.

 



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